if you want to continue this let's continue in pm. This is getting WAY too long and we have wasted over 3-4 pages talking about this. BZD guy also doesn't want to talk, so i think we might have to move on to canceling the alliance. but it's not confirmed as truth has final say

i did try twice to be nice, but i lost it on the 3rd response because then it was no longer trying to find a solution but on how foolish we were on taking the opposing side. I still don't see anything to grow out of. What exactly am I imitating here? finding a solution? I really don't get that. I really don't think it is possible for people to get mad at such a statement like that unless they're crzy or something like that. I'm sorry if it came out sorta rude, but I don't any other way of stating this nicely.

oh yeah i just found out. If you have something like a slow computer with something like windows xp, switching to windows 10 WILL slow down the system, but for games it will speed up because of some software called DIRECTX12, i m not really smart with this stuff so correct me if im wrong

i think if you have windows, then if you upgrade to windows 10 (which is free btw) you will get faster game speed.

@Emerald: so many times i have answered i am not answering again. @razor: glad you took my advice vvv that explains a lot.

truth does, and we are trying to solve the issue. But you know what, if the majority of the clan is against, we probably could cancel the alliance. But we really shouldn't be doing this often, because we won't have any clans to war with. Razor: read previous post. and please stop commenting, because as i clearly remember you said you would shutup, but are still continuing with these meaningless comments. I can understand why you're pissed, cuz you were the one that got insulted. So now you don't want to hear other's views. so it's kind of obvious that you are going to be biased about the issue. I am not going to involve DFL, because as i have noticed, and as he has told me, he doesn't like sugarcoating. This means that it's going to be almost impossible to come to a conclusion, unlike me or truth who haven't been able to witness the c* coming from both sides. This is why I ask the clan, and then talk to the leaders separately along with truth vvv :D

when people run out of smart things to say they start to turn to meaningless proverbs. but if that means that you're going to stop giving random comments then i'm good with it :) You make so much sense, cause it's kinda obvious why i would get pissed about someone trying to support my own clan. Your definition of long post lol, did you even read it? :D vvv: if you never heard, there's something known as sarcasm...

@khm: this is an important topic, and determines if we still keep alliance with BZD

1. I don't, that's why I try to find out. 2. I mentioned that earlier, and also nobody can't help not lagging. it's not something they can control. ofc they can remove player, but what if they don't have others. just have to make do 3. i think here is where the problem might have started. the part where you told them to change the player. I know that when people begin to get 'unreasonable' there has to be some thing that invokes them. It probably wasn't what you said, but HOW you said it that caused the problem 4. some new information right here. I did not know that. This is why I want you guys to give the facts and not just tell me that I don't know anything. This could come in handy and i'll talk to them about it. 5. I wasn't being the only one being condescending. 6. I am neutral for a reason. As you said earlier, I wasn't their at the battle... and this is the main reason for being neutral. Only once i know ALL the facts will i take a decision. I am going to make a new suggestion. From now on, clan should have an official recorder (may play or may not) of the team chat. This should give us at least a bit of evidence on what goes on during the battle. @DFLMNNO: please read all my previous posts clearly and fully. From your response, i could see that you missed out some things that i mentioned earlier. This is why i posted this all in colour. And please don't give hate responses. I have a short temper sometimes and get easily ticked off. Everything written above is all in good intention, so please don't take it the wrong way. And congratulations on your 67000 crystals reward, although i doubt that it would be useful because you must have over a million crystals already :)

you consider your info useful for some reason? Look if you are interested of only seeing your point of view, and causing fights with other clans, it's good you have decided to stop talking. I am trying to solve a problem here and you are trying to start one. ofc i wasn't here, that's why am here asking for facts. I am not going to just complain about how the others are at fault and how we are right, turning a deaf ear towards anyone else. btw let me give you some advice, if you keep finding fault with others, you are going to have a tough time at sl. team spirit and sportmanship are very important for clan growth and success. you will have to learn that soon. @golden and whoever complained about hacking: it was real bad lag. that's why he seemed to have teleported. And this is VERY believable, because as a guy who is a HUGE lagger, i know as i played multi with a friend and could see how bad of a lag i was... @turbo: m8 how many times i have to tell you :D I AM BLOCKED!!! that example was over 1 year ago...

i don't know, they said you were complaining about them having extra members... could it be lag? ill talk to them about it, lets see what they have to say. Also, have you left the clan or are you still staying after VV?

you say they won by cheating, and we say the opposite. Who are we to believe. Even though we didn't play, why would we support the other team? it's not cause we're jobless bro. The problem here is that, you guys are rather biased to only see your side. I do also remember hearing complaints about our side too, i don't think our clan wasn't to blame in this. Also we did talk about hearing BOTH sides, which you probably might not know because it was discussed in pm. And i did try to hear from both sides and asked many times in the forum and in pm. one more thing: we don't take the opposing side because we're crazy. It's because we place fair ness and a fun gameplay over just winning or losing... Don't take this negatively, im only trying to have a simple discussion here, and not start a big 10 page long fight to prove who's right and who's wrong.

@Razor: about random players joining, we kinda did the same thing too, in the name of allies. We really can't complain too much about that... and razor, as a leader, you seem to place too much importance in winning. + don't you think it will seem rather suspicious if we keep getting too many wins? as the leader, you need to see things from both sides of the story and make the most appropriate decision. if we keep fighting for our side eventually we wil come to a point when the popularity level is so low no one will be willing to have a war with us

too low means you are kicked... clan ls is not for fun, so you might have to watch that. It takes time for ls to be updated, so it may not come immediately. VV i don't think you read this... let me ask you another question: do you care about getting kicked, not being able to participate in wars etc.? That's what the ls affects, so you don't have to be afraid of the ls, but the consequences of it.

-0.5 LS: Reason: Flooding, Failure to heed to previous warnings by both clan admins Don't worry, it'll come back up once you reduce the posting KHM, weren't you the one who was choosing between changing your nickname or buying rail?

do you know what 69 is supposed to mean, golden? (without looking it up of course) you guys are going to have to start training quick, wars are coming up one after another, so be ready EDIT: golden, you looked it up didn't you? :D soldier28: now you're basically like me, enjoy life without tanki! :(

Truth ur an idio u know that xD you actually made a poll on that? But I know that candy is going for the last option :) but you should change it to candy :D

He's right, cuz believe it or not, truth and I were once worst enemies... And you should have seen what havoc we caused (mostly in his clan lol) . But I do know that people went even further such as hacking each other to get their own way, we haven't gone that far.

DFL, i kinda agree with you. i don't even know the difference between admin and admin candidate anymore

i haven't been in practice battles. i can't play the game btw truth the only reason why you replied to razor was so that you could use the bear meme :D

I'm not going to say this against dom, but there are other players who have potential. we can take your word for it, but let's say, something does happen and one of the players not in our clan, decide to not obey the rules, what are we to do then, what do you propose razor? @golden: soccer equipment? Great now that sentence lost all meaning :D

khm please take care of the posting, if you want to have long conversations use chatzy or edit the existing post like this. EDIT: blahblah It doesn't mean just not double posting. clan pages are increasing real quick, and we don't want clan page to turn into social networking site, so please watch the posting. THANKS! :)

Guys i have some bad news for you all! I'm now an admin! Everyone gets free LS of -10. no need to thank me hehe XD BTW i m not like candy, giving free candy to everyone! I give free -ls okay. also i know i said im not going to take up the position, but others more deserving didn't want so i decided to become admin candidate.

i think sometimes im not even sure they're jokes :D jk im only kidding ur funny sometimes

i never really got your humour :) im great at ruining jokes btw natural talent