Yeah, that was before you mucked everything up with the insane changes you made on turrets because you rarely made that many changes that resulted in losing half of your players! For example adding the splash damage to Twins and then asking for 50,000 crystals to make it like it was before! This is the only game where when you buy something, a few months down the road is changed to practically worthless unless you fork the crystals to make it almost the same when you first bought it. Let's not forget to mention that a lot of useful items like the 1,500 supply kit was move to the "shop" where you have to spend real money. How about the ridiculous prices on the protection modules? And of course let's not forget that the so called birthday sale had the 50% off on the MUs with a ridiculous 6 days for the single upgrade to take effect! (unless of course you were going to spring for the equally ridiculous price for the speedups! Some sale, huh? No wonder why the user count is at its peak much less than 50,000. I remember a few years back on weekends and holidays the numbers were as high as 70,000+. here is an advice: If you want people to pay for options, make sure that they get what they paid for. Also, fix your lag problem and the frequent "an error has occurred". There is nothing more aggravating than to spend money on supplies only to see them evaporate because "an error has occurred". Oh, did I forget to mention that since the server merge, it takes forever to get into the garage from a battle and then it times you out "due to inactivity"? and you lose your place and your scores? really? You expect me to pay real money for this?

Another useless "giveaway" for buyers and those who have the time to get thousands of kills! How about fixing the damn "an error has occurred"? or the problem that it takes so long to get in to the garage during a battle so it kicks us out for "inactivity". I think these issues may be beyond the Tanki developers' capabilities or else they would have them fixed by now.

Well if they had a clue they would have fixed it by now. just before the server update I was getting some crazy FPS and ping numbers like 2 FPS and 800 ping! they are FUBAR as we say in the USA.

And I thought that I was the only one who has this problem. Where is this "brilliant" developer called Hazel-Rah to tell us what is going on? Well, if he had a clue, he would have solved this problem that seems to creep up very often right after the daily restart! Coincidence? I do not think so! Daily restart of the servers is not really necessary unless of course they implement daily changes that are not visible to us.

The discount duration of MUs & alterations sucked: only 24 hrs? and only 25% on MUs that are overpriced to begin with? Seriously? 40% discount on useless Garage paints with a duration of 5 days! Again it validates our suspicion that this game moves toward the pay for play model. Also, what person thought of having the supplies on cooldown when entering a battle/ Let me guess! That Hazel-Rah who tries to pass as a developer! The result is that we get promptly killed upon entering the battle by a drugged up camper. Never mind the fact that to complete the daily missions you have to hunt through all the servers to find a battle for that mission. Again "brilliant" move to not allow the players to create battles. Oh, let the system do it, like the system gets it always right and it never gets "an error has occurred". If you want to have a sale, have everything on sale at the same time for the duration.But I get it: you want to force the players to log in frequently so you can get your stats up. However, it is sad that previous years birthday celebrations were hitting over 70,000 users, while this year it barely broke 50,000 and that was mostly noob accounts. Wake up Tanki before it is too late.

When entering a battle All supplies will be on cooldown And you promptly get killed as soon as you enter the battle by a drugged up buyer! What moron thought of this? But then again tanki developers are just at that level, so let's not expect much. Oh yeah I'd bet good money they still have not figured out how to solve this nebulous "an error has occurred" error! But hey folks here is another 50% off sale of overpriced items, so shut up.

Any update on a solution to the nebulous "an error has occurred" error? It is getting worse and we waste effort, supplies and miss out on completing "finish 1st" missions.

If it is not sarcasm then it is just ignorance!

"Hazel-Rah is churning out new updates at a terrifying rate and it seems like he is thrashing every ounce of energy out of his developer team." So this is the name of the guy who is responsible for trashing Tanki. Good thing this so called "developer" does not work for me! In my 25+ years of IT career, I have fired much more competent developers than this pretender. One thing is for sure: If I ever see on a developer's resume "worked for Tanki Online" I can guarantee you, that resume will go directly to the trash. Along with lack of serious programming skills, this guy has no creativity and no imagination whatsoever.

Ahahaaaaaaaa! If Tanki programmers join the Strategic Rocket Forces then it would be fun to see what would happen like when they get "an error has occurred" during the Rocket launch! For starters, the lag time between pressing the "Launch" button and the actual launch will definitely increase!

I understand! I am not a buyer either but it seems that this is the way this game is headed. Since they have no advertising they need the revenue. However, they go about the wrong way and they are alienating the majority of the players. It used to be fun to play this game but now it is becoming a hassle.

Nah. Mr. Cedric Debono is just a puppet and does whatever the puppet masters, who pull his strings, want. Now the puppet masters happen to be a bunch of amateurs that read a book on how to program and think they became real world developers and business entrepreneurs! Look how they expanded the rank range in a battle having Legends with full MUed M3s battling lowly captains and majors who unless they buy stuff cannot compete. And they did this to force people to become buyers. Once upon a time, they used to give us a daily gift, then went to the Daily Missions, then they will not let you create battles unless you buy a Pro Pass, then they excluded Pro Battles from completing the missions and now this! Well, I will just keep playing until it does not become fun anymore since I do not buy anything and I do not care about daily missions especially now that they reduce the opportunity to get crystals. They have not and will not get any real money out of me because putting any money into this game is just waste. This is the only product where you purchase something and you do not get to keep what you purchased originally since they change all the parameters. I guess you haven't figured out yet that they try to make things difficult to get crystals so you can become a buyer! wake up or pay up! Nah, the next move will be that you have to pay $1.00 every time you login to the game. And when the "very descriptive" "an error has occurred" kicks you out of the game, you will have to pay $2.00 to re-enter the game since they have to pay some real programmers to fix it!

ahahaaaaaaa! I remember they used to be 60,000 to 95,000 once upon a time. Now it is half that and you think this is good? Also you overlook the fact that the majority of those players must be newbies because now I can hardly find battles at my rank to complete my missions.

Yeah, good luck with that! I tried it and even for beta is crap. You cannot even tell what rank you are since the icons are so small so you have no idea if you are out ranked and out gunned. there are are a lot of things wrong with Tanki X so I stopped playing it. Not interested in crappy beta stuff. Tanki now has become just as crappy with all these updates and patches while the real problems do not get fixed.

I guess you have not figured it out yet that they are trying to force you to become a buyer!

Add me to the 95%! Now I have no need to spend any crystals for the assinine Pro Pass. On the flip side I cannot even find a battle to complete my mission (1000 XP on a TDM map) how ridiculous is that? Since we cannot create a battle who knows when the stupid system will create the battle and it would be most likely at a time that I cannot play! What idiots. As far as the guy who said that 45,000 players indicate that the game is not dying, he forgets that before these dumb updates there were at peak time over 65,000 players! That is a loss of 20,000 which is a 3rd of the players. Also, I have noticed that of the 45,000 players are new sign ups since I see the servers busy but very few battles for my rank. I guess the people who are running Tanki have no clue of what the numbers tell them and they still keep mucking up the game. Not to mention the fact that they cannot get an update implemented correctly the first time and they have resorted to longer downtime and multiple restarts.

"ok young SIR" LOL! I wish I were a "young SIR"! Unless you consider someone approaching 60 a "young SIR"! As I said in another post, I am an IT professional with over 30 years of experience and I know a thing or two about systems upkeep and such! As a matter of fact I am responsible for managing a department with an annual budget of $9,000,000! (probably more than the entire value of Tanki) It is not about that I cannot afford to be a buyer if I want to, but I choose not to be since I know the product that I am buying today will change tomorrow not because of depreciation (i hope you understand the term) but because someone thought it is a good idea to make it so. As far as the product "been consumed" it is not so. I do not "consume" my tank as I "consume" a chocolate"! Just as I do not consume my car. Rather I keep using the tank as I use my 700 series BMW. However, I do not see BMW coming to me and saying sorry but now we have to put a smaller engine in your 700 series Beemer to make it more competitive with the 500 series! never mind the fact that I paid for a 700 series and now I am getting a 500! See the difference? Again I am not complaining about the money per se, but for the fact that I do not get to keep what I paid for originally. A fact that has nothing to do whether the game is free or not. Besides, in other games you can sell back the equipment you don't want at a reduced price of course which makes more sense since it account for the fact that I used it (remember depreciation?) and it gives me the opportunity to purchase something new without cluttering my garage with useless equipment. But then again what do I know in such "young age"!

I cannot tell you because I do not want to appear as if I am promoting any products on the Tanki forum. That would not be professional. As far as alternative games to Tanki remember: Google is your friend. I am sure you will find some.

I have not asked for Tanki to be free! Tanki touts itself as a free game and I have no problem for people paying for purchases. here is the description of Tanki taken from Wikipedia: "Tanki Online is a free multiplayer, browser-based, free-to-play game in the arcade tank simulator genre. It was created, and is developed and supported by AlternativaPlatform." Wikipedia I also understand that the developers need to get paid. What I do not understand is the need to make these unjustified changes. If I pay for a car that has 500 hp I get that 500hp for the life of the car. If I pay to upgrade a Thunder to an M3 fully MUed, then it should stay an M3 fully MUed and not nerfed. Which part of this don't you understand? It is not the fact that some items cost real money that people have a beef with Tanki. It is the fact that when you pay for something either in real money or hard earned crystals, Tanki arbitrarily reduces the value of that purchase. It seems that you as a buyer have no concept of value. I would have no problem of paying a fare share to keep the game afloat as long as: 1. I get what I paid for. So far, all my investments have lost value. 2. The errors are fixed before new features are introduced. Lag and the nebulous "an error has occurred" need to say more? 3. The changes introduced make the game better. How does having to pay for a Pro Pass in order to create a battle makes the game better?

"obviously im not a highly trained developer" Don't feel bad! neither are the Tanki "developers"! I know: I have been a Director of Software development for over 30 years and I have fired better developers than the ones who work for Tanki! If they applied for a job at my company and they listed Tanki as their employer, their application wouldn't even make it past HR! I am also a professor at a US University teaching IT related courses and I can tell you that if a student of mine produced code like Tanki, would not even get a passing grade.

If it is a "free" game, then why should we have to pay to purchase stuff only to see them lose value after each "update" or "patch"? Also, why are we "freeloaders" if we play a "free" game? I have no problem "contributing" to the game if the game becomes better and my purchases do not lose their value? Would you buy a car when you know the manufacturer will come sooner or later and take the engine out and put a smaller one in? That's exactly what tanki is doing. And if the "buyers" do not understand that, then they are fools. No other way of putting it!

I used to feel sorry for the fools that pay real money to purchase certain equipment only to see their investment evaporate because some developer at Tanki thought it is a good idea to nerf their equipment. Now I just laugh at the idiots who are still paying real money and they have not learn their lesson. Once and for all people, here is the #1 lesson you need to learn: NEVER SPEND ANY REAL MONEY ON TANKI. IT IS NOT WORTH IT! Sooner or later Tanki will change the equipment for the worst and your investment will go to waste. If you still insist on paying real money on this game, then you deserve what's coming and you should not be complaining.

Hahahaaaaaaaa! This is the reason why I do not spend any real money on this game. I do not even bother do any MUs no matter how many "sales" they have. This is a racket to make you spend your or your parents' hard earned money. I have found out that it is not worth to spend anything on this game because sooner or later they will change the terms. This is the only business where you pay for something and then they take it away. Now imagine that if you bought a car that had a big engine and then the car manufacturer came to you and said "sorry now we have to take this engine out and put in a smaller one but we will not give you any refund for the money you spent to buy the bigger engine". simply it is highway robbery. Tanki can be safely described as a bunch of dishonest thieves.

Please people, stop complaining. If you are a long time player you should know by now that: 1. Tanki programmers are just a bunch of amateurs with no concept of developing quality code. 2. Spending crystals to MU ANY turret is just waste. Sooner or later they will make changes that make all the MU worthless. 3. Tanki is moving to a PAY for PLAY model. Oh, yeah, the basic stuff will still be free but as you move up to the ranks, if you want to be somewhat competitive, you have to drug or purchase that latest strong equipment. Either one of these choices entail spending your parents hard earned money in perpetuity. 4. Clans is another way to rip you off. Why on earth do we need a CLAN button? And of course as a moderator put it "normal players" cannot create a clan. In other words is you are a "normal player" ie a "non-buyer" then you are excluded. Just like they did with CREATING a battle. Now you have to pay for that privilege! Oh sure, 3,000 or so crystals may not sound much but for a recreational player is more than you can earn in a month. 5. Of course tanki folks will try to put their spin on it as usual. Hopefully more people will learn what the true reason is behind all these "upgrades" and "patches". So, enjoy whatever free battle you can join and either shut up or pay up.

Nah, they are just a bunch of amateur wannabe programmers that have no idea how to write quality code. For them testing is deploying it and then waiting for us to tell them how much they screwed up!