I think freeze M0 is actually pretty balenced, as are most M0 weapons. M1 is where the unbalances start to happen.... at M0, winners in battles are mainly from skill, not equipment upgrades..i just wish there was some M0 club or something so people could have balanced battles and have actually skilled players instead. The good thing about noobs in low ranks is that experienced player can farm flags so they can rank up a bit more easily in alts :D

Very true, or at least around WO4 & 5 I do agree on what your saying....but i dont agree on how your saying it..... Rico isnt that good under M2, and its mainly known fornits high damage in lower ranks, plus its ammo suply runs out very quickly, so its not good for fighting Vulcan. Trust me, i know about Rifo m1 and m0, iv been using it since December 2014. Its also not very stable on light huls and hunter, which are very common, so Eico doesnt work too well against vulcan......Railgun is a shoot and run kind of thing, so the Vulcan doesent have much time to knock off theirbaim anyways, but Railgun also doeswnt knock it off very well since its mainly forxamage. In higher ranks, its bettr for knockback but not in m0 and m1. There is difference in saying that one turret is not as good as another in certain aspects and asking for a drug that would jist kinda ruin lots of gameplay...... and btw, DA was a terrible example. More health/armor is a pretty basic part of almost ANY combat game, but something like makeing more impact force isnt that universal.... It may seem really good depending on what turret the person has, but the suggestion would mainly just help op turrets to become more op over the average ones.....there are many druggers in today's tanki, and its already hard enough to fight them at times, so what i dont understand is why this thread exists at all... Btw, i never said just double weight. I also said to alter size too Yes, i do realize that and Speedy does too. Iv been on this forum long enough to know that.....yet all the good ideas are discarded or forgotten after a time.... its actually kinda sad..... Iv comment on just about every idea ever since october in I&S, Ideas for Gamemodes, and many others...there are very creative pwople out there

Titans and Vikings would rule.... :/ Also, how would the weights be changed? A mammy the weight of wasp is weird, and Dictator with weight of wasp would actually effect battle, since dictator is so wall that it would flip pretty easy..... Then wasps the weight of like mammy? Still weird

Actually...it would be very very op... especially at your rank when Vulan is so op....the main thing about vulcan is its impact force paired with continuous fireing....if you increse the impact for and give them some other drugs with an isida, then they could win the entire battle so long as there is a Wasp M0 on there team to cap the flags...

True, Freeze may have some things that were added to counter the less freezing part. It could have a longer lasting slowing effect on targets, and it could have its freezeing start to kick in a bit faster and sooner too. Many players just look at the immediate affect of it, or they may look at the stats in the garage, but the garage stats may not show everything. Shaft, for example, does not show its penetrating power directly in the garage, you need to open the mu menu first, and many of the stats on turrets and hulls that nevr change arnt shown unless you go to the Tanki wiki to look at it. And vulcan too, its self-burning strength does not change with mu upgrades, so its not shown in the garage. The only reason i know about that is because i happened to see it at one point there and i saw someone else comment on that too.

Sigh....drugging freezes are actually kinda op at m2.....when they focus on attacking instead of freezeing, they really do become dangerous..... the reason so many say freeze sucks right now is because all the old freeze players created their own tatics, which dont work with modern freeze, and many freezebplayers are also noobs in general, so when you look a those things as a whooe you will see tha freeze sucks. But there are people becomeing much better with the current freeze, and i suspect that in a few months freeze will seem much more balenced than now. The devs obviously were much better with freeze when they were creating it since they already knew the tatics for it, so it seemed pretty balenced to them and the testers, but normal players dont know as many detail, and many people were suprised by the sudden update so the thing that makes freeze look bad is simply something that has existed throughout all of life in every universe and every species; Lack Of Skill

heh heh....sad but true

possibly, maybe not increasing the power though for enlarging...that could be abused.....well, maybe increase a little

your gismo....you of all people should realize how op that would be.....

Thats basically Nitro, but replace reloading with faster topspeed

Thats starting to happen even at my rank...

I slowly manage to get my hand to mu pocket, where i take out a ring. Then i stick my thumb uo to the sky and a minute or so later a spaceship comes and rescues me, and because they are a higher intellegence they are able to save me from the radiation poisoning TPBM is locked in an airlock then ejected into the vacume of space

How tall are you?

Nah, i did it with Fanta Grape soda, and instead vulcan i had Railgun

I read through half of this then when i looked in the mirror and i realized that i had grown a beard :P The first half was really great though! :) Ill finish this later after i shave

So far, this is kinda one of the only things tha youv said that i agree with. I read the post before looking at who wrote it and i practically fell out of my chair when i saw you wrote it(jk, im lying in bad right now :P). I recently got twins, and it does require much more skill than most people think(at least with hunter and hornet). It is very simple, but it has planty of disadvantages when fighting evenly skilled players with evenly matched equipment for its rank. Twins M1 releases very early in kits, makeing many people angry and they call it op. Its only op for the peiple who have used it a bit. Twins is easy to use, but hard to master. The acheivment for getting 500k exp called "A Brick Will Do The Trick" is not quite entirly true. It does kind of show somthing about twins, but there is plenty of skill involved when its not paired with Titan,Mammy,Viking, or Dictator. Because of the low heath and the inabilty to use cover when fireing, noob twins users can easily be killed, and heavey hulls just need to be avoided, which isnt that hard. Its mainly when a twins sneaks up on someone where its definite death. To counter a Twins tatics, just keep your camera constantly looking around so you can see the huge slow death mchine lumbering towards you. Twins paints are also fairly easy to get too. If they are that bad, then mu sime paints for it and you'll be fine, or use a firbird to counter it. Twins realy can dominate the battle feild, but thats mainly because of all the spoiled noobs in the Engliwh communuty. I only hate that when they are on my team, but other than that imbperfectly fine with them :P Btw, Polygon CP is not a "noob" battle mode/map.... its just a great way to gain exp and crystals fast in the lower ranks.....but there are plenty of druggers there to deal with, so it baleclnces out. Imagine the amount of deuggrs that are in 5 normal battles all crammed into one maos were everyone is trying to converge into the center like if there was a gold there. Thats what Poly CP is, and thats why Thunder,Freeze, Twins, and Firebird rock there because you can get like 4 kills at once.

Leaveing for a bit really does help A LOT I left (unintentionaly) in for like 6 or 7months in April or so of 2015 and Tanki seemes much better than when i started, plus i found i ragee much less :P Well GL!

Yeah, but it would needbbettr maps :/ Unless the tteams were unbalenced, it was so easy for blue to defend, cause all they had to do was kill people. Its much harder to survive when taegeted than to kill people while untargeted. There has nlbeen planty of times where i was red and the teams were pretty fair, yet i won alot, but its not ussualy like that Yeah, iv thought about tha at times too :) That could be a cool idea, or it would just be easy kills for the high ranks.......

Wait....what camera settings? I want slowmo! :D

What? Iv never played tanki while there was crystal boxes, but i remember seeinga v-log where they said the chances of gold.....though i did watch all the ones that released before i was playing so maybe that was it.... Ig actually noticed a weird glitch ever since i started useing hunter and useing titan more often, where if i collide with someone with a lighter hull a certain way, i will glitch on top of them......it seems that the heavey hull is always the one that ends on top*....now thats logic for you *i think thats why Dictator is so amazing with gold hunting too and can climb others well. Dictator is the 3rd heaveyest hull in tanki, and you rarly see titans and mammys trying to grab the gold, so generally Dictator is the most heavey hull in a group, so it will glitch up tanks when its hit right...

True, but can normal players use it? Iv wanted to try it before, but i haven't really looked into it enough to know that or not. Im actually just too lazy atm to do it :P

You die of lead poisoning, so then i constantly harrass you in the afterlife and i get even.* Im also an interdimesional being who cannt die from anything, and i can re-form with my body parts if they are chopped off *Why bother haunting someone if you can eternally annoy them and they cant do anything about it? :P, and because of being interdimensional, i can haunt ghosts I use my super cool ninja skill to cook TPBM into a philly steak and share it with my dog

Huh...never thought of it that way.....i always did think they looked strikeingly similar thoigh...i guess the devs made it for those plyers who like heavey-medium/Heavey hulls...lol

Duel has a few walls and the little hole divet thingy too....its not much....but its probebly similar to Island for diffficulty in CTF. Plus, many people would probebly pick a heavey/medium hull anyways because of the openness and the small area, inlike Island where many will do waso or hornet. I do see alot of vikings there though

Well, twins does need some skill when going against turrets like Ricochet,Hammer, and other Twins cause the impact force can really make a difference in who wins the mini 1v1, cause you really need to make every shot count when faceing off in short range or with high impact-high damage weapons