These values seem to reflect the current situation not the post-update situation. I did a rough calculation comparing the two. If I recall correctly the m2 Smoky's DPS did about 16% more than Thunder's DPS. At m4 Smokey's disadvantage had dropped to about 11%. With Thunders m2 alteration she gains about 6.25% improved DPS so that makes the weapons even more similar. I do agree they are much more alike now than they are dofferent. Therfore: Thunky, or Smonder.

Is that true about Thunder having the 50% damage in the min damage range? Holy Cow.

No, the full critical damage is applied regardless of range. I tested that much on the test server last weekend.

But you already have impact force w/o the alteration. The alteration is significant only for those individual shots that would not deflect enough with normal impact force, but do deflect enough with the additional 27%. My guess this represents a very small percentage of shots taken.

Problem is, the game does not give points for throwing off the other guy's aim ... especially true in DM battles.

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Boy I hope you are right. I've just been burned before. In other online games the analogous issue to mults was "bots". Companies would swear they would crack down on bots, but over time you saw more and more of them. I guess the revenue trumped the level playing field. If Tanki actually takes firm steps against mults that will earn considerable respect.

That's an interesting angle, to have the tank stay still to regenerate. I like the points you raise about it. The thing that gets me is... everyone wants the drugs. But when you have them the DD and DA cancel each other out. So it's like they are not even in the game, but all the tanks are sped up. Why not just speed up the tanks and get rid of supplies 2, , and 4 ... now everyone is a full0time drugger! lol My suggestions is a system where you can't have all power-up active at once (unless you have map pickup(s).) By breaking up the effects the powered-up tank would gain an advantage, but it'd less dramatic a difference. Anyway, it will never happen. Tanki X is being created with the exact same dumb power-up system as Tanki Online. So obviouslt the Devs are married to the concept. I'm just glad someone read the posting. :)

Isida will be fine IMO, but it is certain that many current Isida players will hate the change. Many will likely drop Isida. These are the teammates who pop a speed boost so they can scoot away from your 95% damaged tank even faster in their haste to Uberly attack the enemy. Those players will not be missed.

Shouldn't Smoky/Hunter be a format as it is the only turret / gull combo everyone is certain to have?

October 20th for the re-balancing to take effect. Tat's what I hoped to learn. There's a lot of things Tanki does that flabberghast me. But they deserve compliments for their efforts to buld community; Vlogs, newsletters and especially the contests,

No, sale prices are on the basic item not on micro upgrade. The company announces sale periods on micros.

There are few things truer in life. :wacko:

I watched for this on the playtest server. I can say that the crits do full 530 damage, even at the 10% over-maximum range. I was hitting for something like 23pt from bridge to bridge on Brest, then got a crit for 530.

At this point I prefer seeing this change go into effect soon be it for good or bad. Time to start playing under the new conditions. This change is annoying because it came just at a time I was looking to upgrade my gear - which really could use it. The change means a delay of 5-6 weeks before I can upgrade. That's forever in internet gaming. it's also 90% likely I'll have to change LittleWillie's hull/turret/module build. LittleWillie was to be a smoky/vikig combo fforever. So it is a bit of a bummer thinking I'll have to change that identity. On the other hand. Because Tanki gave us advance warning all my accounts are in good position to adapt. I have been saving my Cr. And while it was annoying to delay upgrading right when I reached the needed rank - the good news is I did not spend all my Cr on a combo I will probably have to change. So Tanki deserves credit for that very important part. So for my money if the change is gonna happen let's make it hjappen dooner rather than later.

I used th alteration on the test server over the weekend and I couldn't tell it was active. I made one Wasp flip quite amusingly, but given the situation a normal impact force would certainly have flipped it too. Against heavy hulls it does essentialy nothing. From the other point of view, I recall driving a Hornet and a Smoky turned my facing pretty sharply. But it had no real effect on combat I remember at the time thiminking "so that's probbly the impact force variation". Bottom line this review is right. there's no benefit in throwing off the other guy's aim if you cannot do enough damage to kill him. The game does not give exp points or Cry for throwing off someone's aim.

i notice Smoky is so bad, you could not even conceive of a rating! :rolleyes: Overall quite the good article. Thank you.

I suspect this is a mis-guided effort at marketing. Tanki thinks players will pay $70 cash in the shop because they do not want to wait two weeks to pay for it in Cry when the rotation comes up. What else do you expect from an ex-Soviet nation? The central control sets the price and the availability, not the consumer. Which, in a nutshell, is why Tanki is failing and they are getting more and more deaparate to seel crap in the Shop.

Because it is clear that Tanki wants as many players to use as many supplies as fast as possible. Tanki sees this as their revenue stream. So no, i fully expect supplies to be more and more used in the game. I just wish Tanki did not choose to lie to us about this.

You said you'd pass this concern on to the Devs. Did that at least happen?

Never gonna happen.

Well I hope you are right that the test server does not reflect the endgame! As for testing, the unlimited drugs made actual evaluations almost impossible. And unlimited repair kits makes the Isida almost besides the point. I logged off a while ago. Almost all the game evolved to be Parkourbattles with the smart drugs turned off ... because even unlimited drugs is not enough. I see now why "drugs" became the Tanki lingo for supplies. Wow. Addictive.

My first impression of hunter/viking agree with BlackWasp. I found myself doing moves in the hunter that 'felt' like I was driving my old viking. Also what feels like my old Smoky --- Thunder on the speedup rate of rite alteration. I couldn't tell if the Smoky impact alteration was on or not ... except for one rather humorous hit on a mid-air wasp. Light hulls still feel squishy maybe even squishier. But bottom line who can tell. One hundred million Cry means everyone is running maximum drugs. It is impossible to test the non-drugged situation.

Well, the test server has told me this much. The endgame sucks. Since everyone has unlimited drugs their unlimited use is swamping out all the changes. Whoever happens to have the most drugs up at the time wins. I say this situation sucks because I find myself thinking in terms of how can I keep as many power-ups going at once, instead of thinking in terms of getting good cover, maeuver, team-play and so forth. The stuff you know - stuff actual tanks actually do. Drug use makes the game mindless. Real tanks don't just get to presss 1 for the winzorrz. The test server tells me it is exactly Tanki's plan to encourage drug use. Why they lie to us about this I simply cannot understand.

Well it helps me a little, being a viking/smoky user. Since they are swapping the role of viking with hunter I get a liitle bit of an idea of now I will be affected. Happy, I ain't.