Let's Discuss Viking!

dragonssk1 · January 24, 2014

Firebird —5%

Thunder —22%

Railgun —46%

Shaft —15%

Sorry Yvano, but you are wrong. Thunder can only be micro-upgraded to 33%. Nice, but certainly a lot less.

When you upgrade the paint I understood (correct me if I am wrong) that you can maximize it with the half of the original strength. So for Thunder in this case 22 + 11 = 33 %

Railgun would become a whopping 46 + 22 = 68%!! Fortunately the Devs do not allow this! The maximum of any paint upgrade is 50%! No paint can (fortunately) have a stronger component than the 50%. Otherwise a weapon would become more or less useless against this kind of protection.

So the fully micro-upgraded (and véry expensive) Prodigi is:

Firebird —7.5%

Thunder —33%

Railgun —50%

Shaft —22.5%

You can go test the paint upgrades at Tanki Test Server. Sometimes we could upgrade a couple percents at one time. Its not always 50% plus the added proection

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 24, 2014

You can go test the paint upgrades at Tanki Test Server. Sometimes we could upgrade a couple percents at one time. Its not always 50% plus the added proection

You misunderstood what I wrote! :(

"Railgun would become a whopping 46 + 22 = 68%!! Fortunately the Devs do not allow this! The maximum of any paint upgrade is 50%! No paint can (fortunately) have a stronger component than the 50%. Otherwise a weapon would become more or less useless against this kind of protection."

It says: "fortunately the Devs (developers) do not allow this." In other words: it isn 't possible at all to go above 50%!

If you read any further it says: "No paint can (fortunately) have a stronger component than the 50%."

Which means that no paint can have a stronger protection against a turret, than that 50%.

So Prodigi can have 50% in total against Railgun. Never above 50%!!!

I never ever mentioned 50% plus the added protection as you wrote......... :)

Clear enough I hope?

Look at this for all the right answers: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=186970&do=findComment&comment=3315891

Edited January 24, 2014 by Smok-Ti-Thun

ziaayadad · January 24, 2014

Viking is a cheap mans thing if u ask me. But I have to admit, one way it another, it suits a lot of hulls and turrets.

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 24, 2014

Viking is a cheap mans thing if u ask me. But I have to admit, one way it another, it suits a lot of hulls and turrets.

Cheap mans thing: something wrong with that or are you just joking?

WookySpolf · January 25, 2014

I might well buy that hull kit after M2 Thunder, it looks quite useful, and I would like to use Hunter and Hornet a bit.

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 25, 2014

I might well buy that hull kit after M2 Thunder, it looks quite useful, and I would like to use Hunter and Hornet a bit.

And you get the Viking M2.....if you have the crystals now I recommend you to buy it: you will longer (ranks) enjoy the benefits!

Ofcourse if you still have to earn those crystals, than your way is better. First weapon, than hull ! :)

Edited January 25, 2014 by Smok-Ti-Thun

Remaine · January 25, 2014

Viking is a cheap mans thing if u ask me. But I have to admit, one way it another, it suits a lot of hulls and turrets.

You're clearly taking out your anger on the fact Viking gets more HP than Dictator after MUs.

When you were around my rank, you couldn't stop going on about how awesome Viking M2 is. We all know Viking isn't a "cheap mans thing"

Buggati_The_Best · January 25, 2014

well,if you sum up the modifications for viking and dictator,they are at about same price

there is no such thing about expensive,is about the unique of the hull

Remaine · January 25, 2014

well,if you sum up the modifications for viking and dictator,they are at about same price

there is no such thing about expensive,is about the unique of the hull

Right.

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 25, 2014

You're clearly taking out your ange.

When you were around my rank, you couldn't stop going on about how awesome Viking M2 is. We all know Viking isn't a "cheap mans thing"

Remaine, like it or not....we both agree on this one (big time).

There is nothing wrong in my opinion with making fun of other tanks, but calling it a cheap mans thing becomes too personal.

So like if you do not have the money you can only afford a Viking. And the "cool" guy can buy the Dictator. :huh:

Keep that real-world behaviour: "I own a Mercedes, you can 't buy one hee poor man" outside Tanki please.... :angry:

I am just guessing, but I suspect someone who writes "cheap mans thing" is probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth?

Nice for that guy: he can buy all the kits and as many supplies as he wants, but that doesn 't give him the right to call

somebody elses tank a "cheap mans thing".

A non-buyer for example will have obtained his tank by just hard fighting and investing much more time than a hardcore-buyer,

nothing wrong with both of them, but a little more respect for each other would be nice.

As Remaine already wrote you have a problem with the fact Viking M3 gets more HP than Dictator M3 after MU 's.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170138&page=434&do=findComment&comment=3366684

Well not everything can be solved by money you know..... :P

So ZiAa, please keep those silly remarks to yourself next time.

Edited January 25, 2014 by Smok-Ti-Thun

Ranger7 · January 25, 2014

Agreed. It all depends on your style. I prefer Viking since MU'd it's epic and it's a fun tank to play with Rail.

ziaayadad · January 25, 2014

Remaine, like it or not....we both agree on this one (big time).

There is nothing wrong in my opinion with making fun of other tanks, but calling it a cheap mans thing becomes too personal.

So like if you do not have the money you can only afford a Viking. And the "cool" guy can buy the Dictator. :huh:

Keep that real-world behaviour: "I own a Mercedes, you can 't buy one hee poor man" outside Tanki please.... :angry:

I am just guessing, but I suspect someone who writes "cheap mans thing" is probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth?

Nice for that guy: he can buy all the kits and as many supplies as he wants, but that doesn 't give him the right to call

somebody elses tank a "cheap mans thing".

A non-buyer for example will have obtained his tank by just hard fighting and investing much more time than a hardcore-buyer,

nothing wrong with both of them, but a little more respect for each other would be nice.

As Remaine already wrote you have a problem with the fact Viking M3 gets more HP than Dictator M3 after MU 's.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170138&page=434&do=findComment&comment=3366684

Well not everything can be solved by money you know..... :P

So ZiAa, please keep those silly remarks to yourself next time.

When I say cheap mans thing, I do mean it, and I'm not going to take it back. Yes remaine, I admired Viking because I had it unlocked early and back then it was all about the m2 and Viking is better dictator when it comes to m2 but at m3 dictator is the mighty winner. Viking is cheap, just like hornet, which is why I called it a cheap mans thing, I have Viking at m2 but I also have all the others at m2 apart from hunter and dictator and hornet at m3. The term cheap mans thing is right to correlate with Viking because it is actually cheap and it is unlocked much earlier than dictator. Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it.

And smok- don't tell me what I can keep to my self and what I can't, as for the rules, I can perfectly in my own opinion, advocate that the Viking is a cheap mans thing. You don't own me, in the same way you don't own the forum, so stop telling others such as my self what to do and what not to do because u ain't no king this isn't heaven

Buggati_The_Best · January 25, 2014

dictator m1-around 26k crystals dictator m2-81k(i think) dictator m3-223k

is more expensive than viking with just around 20k

viking m1 -around 19k viking m2-99k viking m3-195k

and viking is very good,you cant say that noobs take it

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 25, 2014

When I say cheap mans thing, I do mean it, and I'm not going to take it back. Yes remaine, I admired Viking because I had it unlocked early and back then it was all about the m2 and Viking is better dictator when it comes to m2 but at m3 dictator is the mighty winner. Viking is cheap, just like hornet, which is why I called it a cheap mans thing, I have Viking at m2 but I also have all the others at m2 apart from hunter and dictator and hornet at m3. The term cheap mans thing is right to correlate with Viking because it is actually cheap and it is unlocked much earlier than dictator. Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it.

And smok- don't tell me what I can keep to my self and what I can't, as for the rules, I can perfectly in my own opinion, advocate that the Viking is a cheap mans thing. You don't own me, in the same way you don't own the forum, so stop telling others such as my self what to do and what not to do because u ain't no king this isn't heaven

Well you can write whatever you want, but if you write words down like you do than you can and sometimes will get a reply.

First there is no "mighty winner" amongst the tanks. It all depends on to many factors.

Stats certainly do not tell the whole story at all.

Because Viking has more HP at M3 than Dictator does not mean it is the better tank!

In which map you play, the kind of opponents, their hulls, weapons etc. so many things have there influence.

The "Best" tank is simply nonsense!

If you would have called the Viking and ugly, rotten and cheap tank that would have been ok by me, but no you

had to put in the word MAN and become personal. :angry:

Cheap mans tank. Than you are not referring to the tank but to the man himself!

I am not a pro in English myself, but that is pretty obvious!

And than you are insulting persons not tanks....

ZiAa: "Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it."

Yeah man, just keep on insulting! Doing a fine job!

ZiAa: "Under what basis or intention or ideology or even arrogance was it decided the Viking should have more hp than dictator m3 when fully micro upgraded and why is it not the way it should be." Your own words: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170138&page=434&do=findComment&comment=3366684

Well you can be mad about things and complain. That is no problem at all on this forum, but implying arrogance is in my opinion too personal.

And I do not own the forum, the Mods and a ban does my friend. As you well know...

But as a TO player I felt really insulted by your "cheap man thing" and still do.

A MAN would say: "I shouldn 't have used those words, or "sorry if you misunderstood me",

but you rather stick with it. That is your own free choice ofcourse.

Well as you said, I do not own this forum and you are completely free to have your own opinions.

But stop complaining as somebody says something about it in return.

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 25, 2014

And darn: I am not the King??? :(

(....putting away my sceptre, crown and royal robe......)

Well, not yet !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edited January 25, 2014 by Smok-Ti-Thun

Ranger7 · January 26, 2014

When I say cheap mans thing, I do mean it, and I'm not going to take it back. Yes remaine, I admired Viking because I had it unlocked early and back then it was all about the m2 and Viking is better dictator when it comes to m2 but at m3 dictator is the mighty winner. Viking is cheap, just like hornet, which is why I called it a cheap mans thing, I have Viking at m2 but I also have all the others at m2 apart from hunter and dictator and hornet at m3. The term cheap mans thing is right to correlate with Viking because it is actually cheap and it is unlocked much earlier than dictator. Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it.

And smok- don't tell me what I can keep to my self and what I can't, as for the rules, I can perfectly in my own opinion, advocate that the Viking is a cheap mans thing. You don't own me, in the same way you don't own the forum, so stop telling others such as my self what to do and what not to do because u ain't no king this isn't heaven

Viking is not a noobs tank. I use it all the time. If you want to take this out, let's do this. But not here, PM's are better for this sort of talk. Let's get back on topic.

WookySpolf · January 26, 2014

Well you can write whatever you want, but if you write words down like you do than you can and sometimes will get a reply.

First there is no "mighty winner" amongst the tanks. It all depends on to many factors.

Stats certainly do not tell the whole story at all.

Because Viking has more HP at M3 than Dictator does not mean it is the better tank!

In which map you play, the kind of opponents, their hulls, weapons etc. so many things have there influence.

The "Best" tank is simply nonsense!

If you would have called the Viking and ugly, rotten and cheap tank that would have been ok by me, but no you

had to put in the word MAN and become personal. :angry:

Cheap mans tank. Than you are not referring to the tank but to the man himself!

I am not a pro in English myself, but that is pretty obvious!

And than you are insulting persons not tanks....

ZiAa: "Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it."

Yeah man, just keep on insulting! Doing a fine job!

ZiAa: "Under what basis or intention or ideology or even arrogance was it decided the Viking should have more hp than dictator m3 when fully micro upgraded and why is it not the way it should be." Your own words: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170138&page=434&do=findComment&comment=3366684

Well you can be mad about things and complain. That is no problem at all on this forum, but implying arrogance is in my opinion too personal.

And I do not own the forum, the Mods and a ban does my friend. As you well know...

But as a TO player I felt really insulted by your "cheap man thing" and still do.

A MAN would say: "I shouldn 't have used those words, or "sorry if you misunderstood me",

but you rather stick with it. That is your own free choice ofcourse.

Well as you said, I do not own this forum and you are completely free to have your own opinions.

But stop complaining as somebody says something about it in return.

I agree with this 100%. Plenty of people dominate with VIking, and that shows that it is a good hull. Also, people go on and on about Dictator's manourerability and speed, so why shouldn't Viking have the HP advantage over it?

ziaayadad · January 26, 2014

Viking is not a noobs tank. I use it all the time. If you want to take this out, let's do this. But not here, PM's are better for this sort of talk. Let's get back on topic.

Upon that, your challenging me over the skills I have and not the values dictator has over Viking. Also, I don't think the cheap mans thing has entered your head yet. The Viking in 'some' aspect is okay, but all noobs will buy this due to it's low rank unlock and cheap price.

Are you some sort of Viking peace bringer or something :S , because your asking me to settle the Viking and dictator out in a 1v1 , sure I'm cool for that but what will that prove in terms if a whole, the skills or what hull is better?

Lastly, we are on topic, I'm in a Viking thread talking and advocating on a Viking, so if this is not on topic, clearly your rank isn't as high as your intelligence :p

ziaayadad · January 26, 2014

Well you can write whatever you want, but if you write words down like you do than you can and sometimes will get a reply.

First there is no "mighty winner" amongst the tanks. It all depends on to many factors.

Stats certainly do not tell the whole story at all.

Because Viking has more HP at M3 than Dictator does not mean it is the better tank!

In which map you play, the kind of opponents, their hulls, weapons etc. so many things have there influence.

The "Best" tank is simply nonsense!

If you would have called the Viking and ugly, rotten and cheap tank that would have been ok by me, but no you

had to put in the word MAN and become personal. :angry:

Cheap mans tank. Than you are not referring to the tank but to the man himself!

I am not a pro in English myself, but that is pretty obvious!

And than you are insulting persons not tanks....

ZiAa: "Sure I'm not denying some of the few benefits it has, but never the less it is cheap therefore it's no wonder why all the noobs get it."

Yeah man, just keep on insulting! Doing a fine job!

ZiAa: "Under what basis or intention or ideology or even arrogance was it decided the Viking should have more hp than dictator m3 when fully micro upgraded and why is it not the way it should be." Your own words: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170138&page=434&do=findComment&comment=3366684

Well you can be mad about things and complain. That is no problem at all on this forum, but implying arrogance is in my opinion too personal.

And I do not own the forum, the Mods and a ban does my friend. As you well know...

But as a TO player I felt really insulted by your "cheap man thing" and still do.

A MAN would say: "I shouldn 't have used those words, or "sorry if you misunderstood me",

but you rather stick with it. That is your own free choice ofcourse.

Well as you said, I do not own this forum and you are completely free to have your own opinions.

But stop complaining as somebody says something about it in return.

Here we go : ;D

First paragraph of what you said: I don't need you again to tell me what not to say just as well as telling me to write what ever I want. You own your own tanki forum account where you advocate and give and express your opinions, and on my accounts, it's where I do mine. So stop taking charge dude, your just like all the rest of the maltesers In the red packed, but difference between you and me is that I am in top if the pack and your right below on the bottom :p ( don't ask me to explain this, because I know you would have as you love to point the finger on everything.

Second paragraph: this isn't a court, I said something from my own personal basis that dictator is the mighty winner, for something to win, competition is involved therefore I have subliminally approved of the little advantages Viking has.

Your third paragraph: fail, because when I said best tank I was Ofcourse meaning my own style, and that wasn't worth mentioning because in actual fact, a lot if people here know my gaming style, not just through my valuable screenie but by physically playing with me on my team and in enemy team. So yeah, I was referring to me own gaming style, not anyone else's, which is obvious, but not very obvious for you now is it. And best tank in my eyes for my gaming style is dictator, so I don't know or anyone else for this matter knows what is wrong with me saying that,.

Paragraph after that: guess what Sunshine... I didn't call Viking ugly or anything. I just correlated it with being cheap. You only boast because you join low rank games whereas I play with high top end killer generalisimo such as kid hen, makarov.dreyar, sometimes supernick95, brambo6, mr.makaveli, yosef_7, martqory, hurries so and so many other generalisimo that are top end with their game, i play with the best and that's how I will eventually turn out the best. You won't be any good showing your screenie I'm the forum, because I'm confident in taking in challenges and you wouldn't because judging by ur happiness of your screenie you don't play with many gens, well certainly not as much as me....

Next thing, this isn't an English controlled assessment exam, where you have to do a point evidence explanation and show a depth of someone's English to get an a* for it, you get nothing from concluding something pointless. The power of three is an expressive English way of advocating, so therefore cheap,mans,,thing is grammatically applicable and a good term to use, since you have no better arguement it's clear that your pathetic logic is trying to make a fault of nothing since you have no better to advocate on. Don't give me big time talks because I ain't the one you should go around troubling with.

Paragraph after the one I just expanded in:

Troll lol lol lol lol my Freind ;) it's clear you ran of arguments long back and now your defining and resulting in some new odd form of argumentations. :D ; I'm doing a fine job at insulting you say? What's wrong with opening to the fact that people buy Vikings because it's the most simple hull. And about that quote, I never said that Viking is totally useless. Your so arrogant and although people say that to me, Atleast I don't make arguments from nothing the same way fire is made from twig and brick, if you know what I mean ;) :)

Your 7th paragraph: thanks for doing some research on me and finding me around the forums many people do this , that's why I'm famous.... Or Atleast should I say a tiny but popular :)

I am not planning I'm micro upgrading any hull anytime soon anyway so I don't see why you think I'm angry over the fact that the dictator has less hp. Sure I'm affected by it but what stupid part of your brain told you I would be angry by this? Lol I'm not starting to think of your logic to consist of brainless cells and no captivity to ponder of the things that matter. Your a disgrace,sir..

Your last paragraph: finally I am at the end of your pathetic words. You won't get any brownie points from me by saying that you are not owner of the forum, which is something I already mentioned and your just repeating it for who knows what reason.

And how am I complaining, if I was I wouldn't have answered you back. You make it out like your the inner and I'm the outlaw of this whole thing in the end. Stick to what you can do and don't think of doing the things you can't, because you just get yourself embarrassed. Your a noob, not because u have a Viking but ur attempt to fool me and twist things around was worth laughing at.

Remaine the only one here worth arguing and talking to because he speaks sense as well as talking about things that are on basis to what in saying, and I say this as a complement. You on the other hand think it's okay to go against the likes of people like me in this forum, who consist of nothing but profound excellence and superiority. Even remaine can't be bothered replying to you because you confuse the one wanting to reply and therefore people can't be bothered replying to your pathetic remarks.

Next time... Know your place, if youngster any concerns or worries or issues which I know I have please feel free to pm me :) ...

Buggati_The_Best · January 26, 2014

stop flooding the forum!

There is no such ''best gun" or "best hull'' or "best paint''

the hulls are balanced and is up to you,to chose beetwen speed,balance and hp..

i say that all the medium tanks are balanced and kinda equal in stats

hunter has less hp,but is the speediest from medium hulls,viking is the most stable and has biggest aceleration and weight from medium category and with MU has even the biggest amount of hp,dictator has more speed and handling,less hp than viking,and is way easier to hit it..

And please stop this flooding,express yourself in less words..

end of story..

VectorSierra · January 26, 2014

Dictator

Viking

Anything to mention before another argument?

Edited January 26, 2014 by VectorSierra

Buggati_The_Best · January 26, 2014

Dictator

Viking

Anything to mention before another argument?

they are pretty balanced,you cant say which is the best

VectorSierra · January 26, 2014

they are pretty balanced,you cant say which is the best

It always comes down to your own opinions.

Nothing is perfect.

If your good with Viking then go for it. There's no point in arguing which is the best. Because their already the best on it's own.

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Now,can we stop this argument and get back on the actual discussion? Please.

Edited January 26, 2014 by VectorSierra

Smok-Ti-Thun · January 26, 2014

Well, what an intelligent reply: bla bla bla and bla bla. Well done!

And ZiAa, accusing me of ^^^wanting to be a King, or that I feel like I 'm the King is so incredibly without any insight

of your own personality that I am (almost) speechless:

- but difference between you and me is that I am in top if the pack and your right below on the bottom.....says the King

- a lot if people here know my gaming style, not just through my valuable screenie....says the King

- You only boast because you join low rank games

whereas I play with high top end killer generalisimo such as kid hen, makarov.dreyar.....says the (drugging) King

- Don't give me big time talks because I ain't the one you should go around troubling with.......says the King

- Your so arrogant and although people say that to me (do they? What a surprise :lol: ), Atleast I don't make arguments from nothing the same way fire is made from twig and brick, if you know what I mean......says the King

- thanks for doing some research on me and finding me around the forums many people do this , that's why I'm famous.... Or Atleast should I say a tiny but popular :).....says the King

- Remaine the only one here worth arguing and talking to......says the King

- You on the other hand think it's okay to go against the likes of people like me in this forum, who consist of nothing but profound excellence and superiority.....says the King

- Next time... Know your place.......says the King

I have to bow my head in the presence of so much divine stupidity!

You simply can 't or will not see that "cheap man 's thing" is pretty insulting. That started it.

But I am not surprised my friend....

And I don 't fight against Generalissimo 's? : look better at this forum:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177128&page=67&do=findComment&comment=3354435

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177128&page=68&do=findComment&comment=3355867

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177128&page=68&do=findComment&comment=3355187

I was fighting these battles with inferior equipment and no drugs, just to see what 's

going on at "the other side".

And what I know of you ZiAa it 's all the best equipment, product kits and

supplies in abundance. Do (can) you even play in Pro battles?

And you also forgot about ranks? You are at least Lieutenant-General I believe, so how can you even

begin to compare my game-level with yours? Your nine ranks further smart guy!

I am just a Third Lieutenant. So I really hope for you, that you are better than me.

And comparing yourself to Remaine: I am curious if he likes that, I wouldn 't....

Well that 's about it, no need to reply to your other statements, you made yourself very "clear"!

Edited January 26, 2014 by Smok-Ti-Thun

Buggati_The_Best · January 26, 2014

you are sure the king at replying ;)

doubt to the king :D

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