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semyonkirov
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By "answered" do you mean using this?

There are several trolls I've seen that are thumbing down 'just cause'.

But for moderators it would mean many more votes from people unhappy with bans/topics edits, etc.

Because if mods don't care about being thumbed-down over people unhappy with their bans, which you stated with this,

 

As I said I wouldn't mind to have the vote.

 

We wouldn't.

Then why is the rule there if the people the rule is protecting don't care if what the rule protects them against happens to them?

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if the people the rule is protecting don't care if what the rule protects them against happens to them?

So, you mean 'you don't care about being voted, then why do you care about being discussed, so why is point 2.18 there'?

 

Well, a vote down doesn't do much (if it's from someone voting on purpose), but a topic made every time a player is unhappy with his ban..doesn't it sound a bit bad?

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So, you mean 'you don't care about being voted, then why do you care about being discussed, so why is point 2.18 there'?

 

Well, a vote down doesn't do much (if it's from someone voting on purpose), but a topic made every time a player is unhappy with his ban..doesn't it sound a bit bad?

No, I didn't mean that, I personally agree that topics made every time someone is unhappy with his/her ban are wrong, however, I still think that players should be able to at least show what they think of mods without needing to discuss their actions. If mods weren't shown by the community if they made a controversial decision, wouldn't they eventually be able to become corrupt? I know that other mods and people higher than them are able to tell them, but they would most likely become friends after some time, becoming biased and making the reprimand/notification less strict or nonexistent. Semyon said that the voting system was created to show players' opinions about different things, so why not allow players, many of which would be able to give honest, helpful opinions, to show their opinions on the administration's choice over mods?

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I'm glad we could finally come to agree over something, however, the developers will have to add this if they wanted, and for all we know, they might not want to potentially waste their time.

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And mods never answer my question. I ask them why I got banned, and they reply, "You know why you got banned"

 

what the hell how does that make sense

i wish Miz and yele actually answered our PM's instead of opening it up to Eddy...

You could always just PM Eddy in the first place or another mod, or if you were banned in the forum, you could just try to look for it in your history.

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You could always just PM Eddy in the first place or another mod, or if you were banned in the forum, you could just try to look for it in your history.

That happens even when I directly PM Eddy. yele and Miz actually try to help me, but other mods, no.

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Please do understand that mods are human too, and Tanki may not be their only job. Reading through tons of PM's a day isn't fun work, especially at the end of a long work day. They try their best to get things done and read through, and they also have to help Tanki in different areas as well. If you have a question, do try to bump it daily so they can get to it, and if it's something a consultant can answer, it's probably better to ask them instead, so mods can deal with people in need of asking about their ban. 

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Reading through tons of PM's a day isn't fun work, especially at the end of a long work day. 

There is a simple solution to that: if you don't like the work that comes with the job, don't do the job.

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All of us make mistakes. But think of the situation which mostly happens when a Mod bans some one in chat & that players comes back with other ID & starts discussion in inappropriate language / complaining to mod for Ban. When that players is banned again for offence (Public Discussion of Admin/Mods/Staff Activity) they start complaining that they have been banned for no reason. Some times players comes again & again with different id's.

Inappropriate Language/Profanity etc are forbidden in chat. Think of a situation when any of your family member is watching you while you are in garage & chat full with inappropriate things.

They have been banned for a reason as Mods have proof. But its not the way to ask publicly why they are banned. Each banned player has right to know why he was banned but its over PM. If Mods don't reply then Chat/Forum Admins or Help are always available.

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I still think players should be able to vote up or down a mod's posts. If a mod knows that they made the right decision, then why would they care about their reputation?

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well me personaly have nothing to say bad about the staff of tanki online and or their commany

,in fact i soon hope to become a member of the tanki staff,i plan on winning the job as a reporter

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http://i.imgur.com/4iFnwIH.png

Semyon, and that? 2 Warnings for one mistake?

I'm sure it wasn't done on purpose, just 2 people did it at the same time.

 

Two mods/players who can ban at the same time maybe?

If it was ban, after the first ban system would say player is already banned, so wouldn't get a second ban.

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As has already been said you can write Pm, I personally never go to sleep until I've answered to everyone, I'm always available to give explanations or I always ask other items before coming to every decision.

Ah, yeah, sorry, but it took you two days to get to Eddy's PM. That meant I was two days unable to post or communicate in-game.

 

I hope some people get to read this before it is deleted.

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Ability to vote up/vote down moderators' posts was removed due to numerous requests of some Russian mods. If the community is ready, it can be brought back.

 

But that was on the russian forum, what if it was implemented only on the English forum?

And also, what is your opinion on the community being ready? What will it have to do or not do?

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But that was on the russian forum, what if it was implemented only on the English forum?

And also, what is your opinion on the community being ready? What will it have to do or not do?

If it is possible to enable this function only on the English forum, it will make the whole thing a lot easier to implement.

As for the community being ready or not, it was disabled in the first place because people were disliking all the posts by moderators. Even those where it was obvious that the mod was right and helped people. 

If people are ready to competently assess the work of moderators and other assistants, as well as their actions, then voting thing will help both players and staff.

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As for the community being ready or not, it was disabled in the first place because people were disliking all the posts by moderators. Even those where it was obvious that the mod was right and helped people. 

If people are ready to competently assess the work of moderators and other assistants, as well as their actions, then voting thing will help both players and staff.

What's wrong about downvoting posts? If they're offended by it or something, why should it be removed? 

 

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If people are ready to competently assess the work of moderators and other assistants, as well as their actions, then voting thing will help both players and staff.

If people are ready? When the voting system was first introduced, moderators said that users could upvote/downvote however they wanted to and for any reason. Apparently it had to change because other users "could not handle it".

Edited by FC_BayernMunchen

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