Are you all Afraid?

[Meliora 1,652]

Dear forum users (not staff),

 

   Try taking a look at the forum. If you’re an older member you can probably remember what it was like a year or two ago. Now we’ve seen many changes, and I believe it is safe to say it has turned from a lively, fun, enjoyable place to a tea party at Cinderella’s palace. I can see no true opinions from anyone on aspects of Tanki – I know you care, some having stronger opinions than others. But why don’t you voice yourselves? What are you afraid of? Of course, you’re terrified of getting banned.

 

    I’m not saying you should go full force and break all rules, but please, just relax a bit. Referring back to the tea party – the forum is becoming too polite. Ere long, if we all followed the rules and were too scared to say anything critical about the game, I can imagine a small table, at which a few users are seated. Robbie56 says to flae, “Oh, could you possibly pass me some sugar please? Ah, you’re so kind.”

 

     See the resemblance?

 

    Back to the subject of bans – if you speak your mind, but full force criticise the game (bearing in mind, no profanity or insults), you are breaking NO rules. If you get banned, then we have a problem. And to all those who love sucking up to moderators/other staff, they are NOT gods. If you do not like them, you can’t get banned, nor can they make you drop dead. Sucking up does not make you any less likely to get banned, so don’t get your hopes up.

 

    Your use of the forum is why we have trolls – they’re there to liven up the place, as you are all too upright and far too wary of your words. I’m guessing most of you don’t like trolls, but admittedly laugh once in a while. Again, I’m not encouraging you to troll – on the contrary – you becoming more independent will leave trollers no reason to do what they do (hopefully eradicating them).

 

Here are some examples of those who dared:

 

In the positive,

Why not use the real player who works hard not being paid or in any connection with staff?

Firstly, in opinioned interviews, there have to be critics (I see none here), and as says, it's obvious that at least one of the people interviewed must not have liked the update, but were intimidated by it being an official interview and felt obliged to five positive feedback.

 

And in the negative,

10/10 (would bang) when I first started at around mid 2011 or something.
9/10 once I got to the higher ranks and Shaft was added in.
7/10 on Graphics update.
4/10 on Rebalance. (Update 114)
3/10 after Economy update, and Drugger kits update.
Probably 2/10 after MU and physics.
 

Well, all those who gave Tanki 10 before, and 10 after are either blind or don't know what "after" means. If Tanki reduces crystal gaining rates, that means the game is getting worse, surely? Longcat here acknowledges that, at least.

 

That's all. But I think it's time we ditch the suits and ties and finally get some real discussion on this forum.

If you disagree, tell me honestly, what you are so afraid of.

[flae999 282]

I dont get it? We starting war?

.__. Robbie wont be happy to see this, so ill make sure he doesn't see it and I dont get the bit about me either?...

Edited October 13, 2013 by flae999

[Meliora 1,652]

I dont get it? We starting war?

.__. Robbie wont be happy to see this, so ill make sure he doesn't see it and I dont get the bit about me either?...

1. No.

2. The two people with the most character reducing themselves and becoming overly polite.

[GoldRock 6,165]

Well said.

 

In the positive,

Firstly, in opinioned interviews, there have to be critics (I see none here), and as says, it's obvious that at least one of the people interviewed must not have liked the update, but were intimidated by it being an official interview and felt obliged to five positive feedback.

 

Yes, I did notice that this interview was rather opinionated and did not represent the general views of the community; considering the announcement of the update has largely had negative reactions, the interviews should have been stratified with most of the responses negative to demonstrate a fair representation of opinions.

 

Hopefully, this topic can remain open for some sensible discussion on the forum in general.

 

 

I dont get it? We starting war?

.__. Robbie wont be happy to see this, so ill make sure he doesn't see it and I dont get the bit about me either?...

That's not what she said. Basically, Selena's saying we should loosen up a bit, and that trolls like you are actually an example of some independence in the community, even though your actions aren't generally helpful. She also says that if we all try to be more independent in our posts, you won't be needed anymore :P

[flae999 282]

1. No.

2. The two people with the most character reducing themselves and becoming overly polite.

Im becoming polite?... That's baad =.=.... Thanks for saying something unlike some others =.=

 

That's not what she said. Basically, Selena's saying we should loosen up a bit, and that trolls like you are actually an example of some independence in the community, even though your actions aren't generally helpful. She also says that if we all try to be more independent in our posts, you won't be needed anymore :P

 

=.= i didnt need to know that

Edited October 13, 2013 by flae999

[TurtlesAreSexy 2]

First time ever, I agree with you. 

[GoldRock 6,165]

=.= i didnt need to know that

 

You're welcome xD

 

Nah, but seriously, you've got the idea of 'fun' better than most others have at the moment...

[semyonkirov 29,038]

Selena, I understand your feelings and thank you for saying what you think.

On the other hand, what you need to understand is that players that don’t break any rules won’t be banned. Saying what you think is a vital thing and that’s actually what this forum is all about.

But as any other forum, this one has some rules that every player is obliged to follow, and he or she actually agrees to do it when entering the forum. Breaking these rules will result in warnings and bans. All the other things are allowed.

A simple example is the topic where people were giving a mark of 1 to 10 to Tanki before and now. Lots of people shared their ideas there, some of them were quite negative. None of users were banned or even warned. Why? Because everyone followed the rules.

To sum it up, constructive criticism is welcome and that’s what keeps us going, that’s why things change and get adjusted all the time, that’s why we will most likely make one radical change to micro-upgrades that will change it completely.

So as long as you follow rules, you are welcome to discuss stuff and share your opinions.

As for bans and closing topics, moderators’ goal is to remove topics and messages that give no valuable information, insulting, or break the rules. If something is interesting and provokes a discussion according to the rules, it doesn’t get removed as active civilised polite discussion is what makes forum a forum and that's how we see it.

PS about that article with feedback about the new physics. It was an exact translation of a Russian article posted on the TO News site and shows what Russian testers and old cybersport members think (those who can be called truly experienced in things like physics and gameplay in general). All the articles are neutral there, that’s how it is supposed to be.

[semyonkirov 29,038]

Discussion here can continue as long as everyone follows the rules and continues the idea of the main post. 

[GoldRock 6,165]

Discussion here can continue as long as everyone follows the rules and continues the idea of the main post.

I would like to take this opportunity to say "hats off to you". We may not meet eye-to-eye on numerous matters, but I respect that you've unhidden and reopened this topic. Thank you.

[Turpz 18]

I agree!I mean the tea party thing,I remember that.. We can't really stop this racket because Tank has gained more popular in the past years and more player come and discover the forums.Also,When they do thats when the troller's come along.But other than that I agree!

Edited October 13, 2013 by Turpz

[Turpz 18]

I mean,Ever since iv'e been hated for acting like staff I diden't feel like stopping until I got this huge ban for a week.I mean ever since I diden't wanna be myself but all i was trying to do was helpout for once.Now i know even know im hated I can still express my feelings and thats why I hate this signature now!

Edited October 13, 2013 by Turpz

[joostcool 5,942]

I think it is right when we say the forum was more active and had way more discussion than we have now. I am here for multiple years so I know how it was in the past. So, I think people became kind of scared for what they are typing, and they might misunderstand the given bans on the forum. Those bans are scaring people to give feedback because they are simply afraid they do something against the 2.18 rule. And we all know that feedback is necessary for improvement.

I think I agree with Semyon that a discussion can be held as long as there won't be any rules offended. Although, I think that feedback on moderators should be possible, but should be kept in general, not against one moderator, because we have 'PM' for that. So, in my opinion there may be said: (EXAMPLE)''The rules for the forum are not strict enough, and topics should be closed faster.''. Or the opposite of it. People should be able to say this without the risk of being banned. Of course it shouldn't be a random shout-out, but it should contain arguments

 

Joosty

 

P.S. This topic seems quite constructive and can have a very nice discussion! :)

Edited October 13, 2013 by joostcool

[fIamekid 4]

Your posts are making no sense, whatsoever, Turpz.

[Therider 2,034]

hmm i agree but seymon turned this jolly place into a prison.. and to be honest i agree with u and all but i seem to think there is a ulterior motive maybe something to do with u getting fired..

ps. my opinion dont take it personally

[hirl123 1]

does you go yellow by itsself

[Therider 2,034]

Discussion here can continue as long as everyone follows the rules and continues the idea of the main post. 

^ clear example of le prison

[ARENO-1998 549]

^ clear example of le prison

How?

[Therider 2,034]

Last time I hope ill have to say this:

Player faaiqBilal1 Reported,Reason: Flooding of the Forum/Encourging people to break the rules and Flooding.

lawl stop usineg orange ur not a mod xD

10 commandments of le forum 

#8 DO NOT FAIL TROLL -_-

Edited October 13, 2013 by Therider

[HeroPlayer 797]

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Player Turpz has been banned for a day, reason: 2.3. - flooding ( Fake signature. )

 

This should be done! ^^

[Turpz 18]

Player Turpz has been banned for a day, reason: 2.3. - flooding ( Fake signature. )

 

This should be done! ^^

I never said I was a mod,And the orange was editied... And your nor a mod either. and thats just to let people know I can help them,Now back on Topic!

[Selena1212121 60]

A simple example is the topic where people were giving a mark of 1 to 10 to Tanki before and now. Lots of people shared their ideas there, some of them were quite negative. None of users were banned or even warned. Why? Because everyone followed the rules.

 

To sum it up, constructive criticism is welcome and that’s what keeps us going, that’s why things change and get adjusted all the time, that’s why we will most likely make one radical change to micro-upgrades that will change it completely.

I did actually say this topic was not for staff. And what I am saying is that I can hardly see any true opinions. Like I said, everyone's afraid of getting banned, even though they'll break no rules.

[ARENO-1998 549]

I never said I was a mod,And the orange was editied... And your nor a mod either. and thats just to let people know I can help them,Now back on Topic!

But you're acting one & Hero wasn't being a mod. <_< Edited October 13, 2013 by ARENO-1998

[Selena1212121 60]

As very clearly illustrated, Turpz is an example. Can you not see that sucking up to moderators (or whatever he is doing) is against the rules? Having opinions is not. So what's the problem?

[Therider 2,034]

sel create a poll on this topic about do u think tanki is doing enough to listion to peoples opinions and lets see and see if seymon .. finally listions