Is English community's Cybersport falling?

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Actually, no.  We've known about that, and I'm not even speaking for the staff here, I'm speaking on behalf of all the top clan leaders I knew when I was a clan leader too and somehow we've always known about those, and even more.  Leading a clan a year ago and before that was different to today in a sense that we all knew the EN forum back then was very content poor while the Russian forum was rich.  We'd all know the player made sites with extensive map reviews and analysis as well as many other things.  Those were even a few times talked about in live stream commentaries by cybersports staff and their guest, and most importantly their was the "mouth-to-ear" effect and the resourceful people always knew where to look and where not to, least to say they actually bothered to look around for stuff, which I tend to see less and less somehow, sadly.

 

However, all that said, I am not in any case defending the lack of material on our forum nor the poor communication that exists when it comes to cybersports.  Specially the latter.  And as for the last line about promoting itself as an international game I completely agree with you, sadly.

Thank-you for the clarification. It is important to get the facts right. I assumed because it was not in our forums that it was unknown. But the fact it was not provided to the cybersport staff is still valid. I also agree that a lot of people are getting to lazy to look things up for them selves, even though it has never been easier. Google is my best friend.

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

Incentive. That is all that is required. Paints are not enough incentive, nor are crystals

Add incentive and all these problems will fix themselves

Paints or crystals are not enough incentive? Are you talking about money? Say; incentive provided, but we are not good enough to win. Won't Russians be equally eager to win the prize? If both of us get paints and crystals, both have equal incentive and thus, equal motivation. Knowing how to play, and most importantly organization is what will make us win.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

Arab clans have a shocking requirement :mellow:

You need to have full m3 garage and besides that lots of druggs :o  

And to speak fluent Arabian

 

 

Mission Impossible

 

 

I don't think it is fair for warning the player Silver. He was voicing an opinion and I'm pretty sure its totally fine to have an opinion even though it is criticism. Humans are not perfect and they are mistakes made with all levels of developers and moderation and I'm glad that someone was brave enough to voice there opinion and try to explain to the whole community what is wrong.

 

yeah, he just posted his feedback about english cs.

[flae88 948]

And to speak fluent Arabian

 

 

Mission Impossible

 

 

yeah, he just posted his feedback about english cs.

SPEAKING fluent arabic isn't that hard, writing it is.

Edited July 5, 2014 by flae88

[red_tank_the_best 300]

SPEAKING fluent arabic isn't that hard, writing it is.

Ik, but you can't easly find place or someone to teach yoi arabic in Europe.

[flae88 948]

Ik, but you can't easly find place or someone to teach yoi arabic in Europe.

 There are some arabic schools in England. Idk about rest of Europe.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

There are some arabic schools in England. Idk about rest of Europe.

In Serbia, you can find only one arabic school.

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

You don't need a school to learn a language, you can easily learn a language on the internet. 

[canadarules 1,938]

-.- default time a joke

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

-.- default time a joke

They will never change the times....it's all about supporting the Russian clans. English community clans are such a minority we don't even matter. Time to face the truth. Once the English community players can rid themselves of the sense of entitlement and set our egos aside, maybe then we can produce a clan that can compete at their level. We are the joke, not the time. 

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

We are the joke, not the time. 

I totally agree with that last line, fully !!!  

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

I totally agree with that last line, fully !!!  

The joke goes too damn_slow!

[canadarules 1,938]

I totally agree with that last line, fully !!!  

okay explain to me than how we will play at 12pm or 1pm during school...we can't!

[dragonssk1 334]

I just think the English Community will never ever be leveled or compared to the Russian Community. There are not enough devoted English Players as there to Russians. It will be tuff improving the English community.

[canadarules 1,938]

it is not fair due to default times

[flae88 948]

Russian l1 clans big hard SN was right

Edited July 11, 2014 by flae88

[red_tank_the_best 300]

it is not fair due to default times

Moreover, russian clans don't respond on messages untill 1 hour before match -,-

[dilsharox 2,395]

I AGREE WITH YOR OPINION

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

it is not fair due to default times

So are you saying you can compete against Russian clans if the time was "fair"?

You really need to understand that the Russian Administration doesn't care if the English community clans compete or not. They are not going to reschedule for the sake of a few clans.

 

 

 

In my opinion we need to go back to the old system. Where the clans of each community compete against each other, within their own community. If they want to hold a championship from the winners of each community then that would make more sense.

Edited July 11, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[hhgb 2,655]

I wouldn't call it "Falling" but "Failing"

 

There are many clans that don't moderate their member's actions, I see members in top clans, swearing, in the chat, I report it to the clan leader, and the moderators, the member gets chat banned, but the leader does not take action against that member's actions. Usually because they are highly ranked in their clan, or friends with the clan leader. It is setting a bad "role model" for other players who understand English.

 

tl;dr failing at controlling clan member's actions towards the community and ruining their reputation as a clan.

Edited July 11, 2014 by hhgb

[joostcool 5,942]

it is not fair due to default times

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

So are you saying you can compete against Russian clans if the time was "fair"?

You really need to understand that the Russian Administration doesn't care if the English community clans compete or not. They are not going to reschedule for the sake of a few clans.

 

 

 

In my opinion we need to go back to the old system. Where the clans of each community compete against each other, within their own community. If they want to hold a championship from the winners of each community then that would make more sense.

Clans won't improve just by playing among themselves, they need some good clans to compete with them so they can improve. IMO the english clans wouldn't even be this good (which is not a lot) if they hadn't connected us to the russian community. We have to learn, we have much to learn, that's what we must do. We aren't good enough yet, but I think we can become. It will take time because most of the russian clans have members playing for a long time, and have extensive experience with clans.

 

Default times is a minor problem, which causes many players to be unable to appear for wars. IMO it doesn't matter because members make huge promises and one hour before the war they come and say 'Guys, I can't come, can you make the war one hour early?', and stuff like that. They are usually unable to come anyway.

[swede1 1,726]

Times are a problem for everyone, yes I feel times are definitely in favour of MSK Moscow Standard Time, games have been held from 6 pm to 10 pm Moscow time, this allows 99% of Russian and central Europe while the USA, Canada, and south America Central Time is 9 am to 1 pm, only unemployed and retired (24 million) :P  are available, or must re-arrange their entire life to play, while players from England and Asia have a much easier time ranging from 4 pm to the latest 1 am.

Unfortunately it is the best overall time for most of the world to play, I think that Tankionline could have stepped up to explain all this in more detail to everyone. 

Personally I would enjoy playing on the week-ends at 8 am to 11 am MSK, that is 11 pm to 2 am US Central time.

We players from North and South America just have to face the fact that we cannot make the rest of the world play at 2 am to 6 am in order to appease us.

Edited July 12, 2014 by swede1

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Clans won't improve just by playing among themselves, they need some good clans to compete with them so they can improve. IMO the english clans wouldn't even be this good (which is not a lot) if they hadn't connected us to the russian community. We have to learn, we have much to learn, that's what we must do. We aren't good enough yet, but I think we can become. It will take time because most of the russian clans have members playing for a long time, and have extensive experience with clans.

 

Default times is a minor problem, which causes many players to be unable to appear for wars. IMO it doesn't matter because members make huge promises and one hour before the war they come and say 'Guys, I can't come, can you make the war one hour early?', and stuff like that. They are usually unable to come anyway.

>>>> Well if we are forced to play against clans way above our level, then we will get discouraged and not play. If we play with our own clans, knowing that someday we may be able to fight Top clans, then we strive to improve ourselves. IMO if Tanki continues this new Star Ladder system without offering something to clans who are not at the same skill level, then a lot more English clans will be closing.

 

>>>>  I agree 100%. We have a lot to learn. Don't let my low rank fool you, most of my clan/friends are in the last 3 ranks of the game. So I know what the issues are. Most English players do not understand how to take orders. Their EGOS are to big, they think they know it all, and don't want to listen. The Russians are disciplined and dedicated. They also are willing to learn from wiser people with lots of experience. If you ask some of the major clan leaders, I'm sure they will tell you that there is more fooling around during training them there is actual training. The Russians also have people willing to help less experienced and lower ranked clans get better. Has this ever happened in this community? I doubt it has. There is a lot of good information on the Russian forums, put up by players. I just wish I could read Russian. (LOL) Again, do we have the same level of information in our forum, or anyone to do it ?  I don't think so. 

 

 

So do we come together as a community and make ourselves better, as a whole, or do we continue to be a bunch of individuals and get nowhere? We need to work at this and prove we are not the NOOBS everyone is thinking we are. 

 

 

 

I am a leader of an English Community Clan and proud of it.

Edited July 12, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[metalcrusher 514]

Totally, the English cybersport isn't compared to the russians, there are too many people in clans who just join to join,

but don't actually get tested enough, or don't try to improve, and there are some clans who actually could make it to L4 but I don't think Clan mods see that.