Tanki Writers Group [TWG]

[ExplosionsEverywhere 196]

Guys you're the best, you inspired me to write an article of my own!!! you can read it here

[Unexplainable 111]

It seems clear that your desire to rebel has only formed on the basis of Footsie's comment - indicating that you changed your beliefs purely to save your own back, which I find to be hilarious, given that you're a relatively significant part of the problem. Unfortunately, we can see right through you, and in pulling a stunt, you lose more and more credibility. If you're going to dump plagiarised, stale content all over this forum, stand by your dump.

d3s

[Lhamster 4,081]

I believe you may kick me out of this writing group, I was only here to be with my friends.

 

Oh what if Lhamster said something and you just copy it all because it's plain words and can't be explained more further, shall I call  you fraud? Good job Fen. Good job.

Since when do we have the power to decide who is and isn't part of an unofficial group?

 

And what are you trying to suggest? Are you bringing out baseless accusations now? Where has that come from?

 

I'm now gonna collaborate with the Newspaper to eradicate these writing groups now. I'm not gonna stop at anything now. Improve or get lost forever, TWG. 

Good luck with that, cause we totally want to collaborate with you.

 

Men , don't forget that you were the one who was caught for copying, and please stop blubbering about how great you are

That's a bit like the kettle calling the pot black...

 

Well look at my topic, find any plagiarism?  And yeah, the issue I made on broccoli, you think its a copy ? Never. The other two articles actually says what they are, but mine is a bit different from there's. If you really wanna argue about it being a copy, then don't forget that it was LHamster that started plagriasing Hogree.

Apparently, your head is still stuck somewhere unmentionable. Lets examine the facts:

 

Your "article":

• Posted 4 days after my article
• Mentions Potatoes
• Uses the exact same format as my article

My article:

• Published 1.5 years after the original
• Published in the official newspaper where standards are high and plagiarism is not tolerated
• Mentions that its a sequel
• Is a homage to hogree and the original
• Uses a different format to the original

Either you're trying to troll, or you're a bit deluded.

Edited January 30, 2016 by Lhamster

[Tap_Dancer 1,360]

TWG...... pathetic  -_-

[TriNitroToIuene 4,765]

Hmm, looking at all Fen has said, I'd say I fully agree with him.

 

Back in the original days of the TWG when bluelight1209 was the leader, it was actually pretty settled. We had a fixed mindset - to give the community a quota of articles not provided by the newspaper. And that is exactly what we did - we did it with an aim of improving our writing skills and above all, enjoying what we do.

 

I think that the facts are irrefutable. If you guys can't think of ideas, you might as well close the topic down or do some good thinking, rather than just copying the Wiki and newspaper articles.

 

And if you say you aren't plagiarizing, if you clearly recognize an article that's aped another source, why do you let it get published at all? You people are more concerned with raising your post count than actually writing useful stuff. Of the past three issues, I've only seen a couple of relevant articles, and Issue 6? None. It's a pathetic issue, even by the current standards.

 

If you want to make this club matter, either come up with some original ideas or take a look at the old TWG to see how it worked.

 

Oh, and you say your ultimate aim (at least, for some of you) is to become a reporter? You'll need to put in much more effort. Not a single person from this club has become a reporter even after six issues, whereas three of the members of the previous writing club (which lasted for half the number of publishes) have gone on to become reporters.

 

Get your mindset correct, and your priorities straight. That's it in a nutshell.

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

 

It seems you people in the TWG got out of control again. me? Out of control? Uh no So much so, that you've managed to get Hamster responding to you. I read this forum a lot, specially the off-topic section. so you are like a scanner? That scan every single page in every single topic in every single part of the off-topic discussion?! Creepy I've read every single piece published by every writing group thus far, but after a while each of those ended the same way. yeah: being closed Each writing group may hold a different acronym, or may perhaps even have a different leadership, but the member names curiously repeat themselves each time. The organization level also seems consistently low. :huh: Now, in the spirit of abolishing the spam of articles you people make every few weeks, I thought I'd give you my opinion of what exactly is happening here.

 

Usually the main concern about these kinds of groups is the amount of flood they can create. i can tell because sometimes my PC/phone lags When people want to express themselves, they usually create a "My Creativity" topic in the appropriate sub-forum. However, you've kept on posting topics in the off-topic discussion. doesn't make sense to "move" this to the "My Creativity" if this group doesn't make any logos or whatever This has been going on for a long time now and through observing I've noticed some interesting facts about your topics. It appears that the people who read and comment positively on the pieces are always the same. ? A lot of the times, members of TWG would comment on each other's topics. In case you don't understand where I'm going with this, I'll elaborate further.

 

You see, when a person reads an article and truly enjoy it, they have the tendency to reply to specific parts of the article they liked the most. At the very least, they'll mention the parts that they think deserve recognition. Such replies encourage discussion in the topic, which leads to more people paying attention to it. thats normal On the other hand, replies that show the person skimmed through the piece and didn't show interest will be only a few words long with a general compliment that isn't backed up by anything ("Nice." "lol"). really?? Because I sometimes do that if I am too lazy My advice is that you shouldn't trust everything you read, there are replies that have value and there are replies that don't. Knowing the difference is a crucial step in analyzing your readers' feedback.

 

You can practice by reading the reply from the Boss himself. He seems to be trying to tell you something, maybe it's some sort of hidden message? what did he mean?

 

Now, about the articles themselves. I won't go into too much detail about what makes a good article since I've done so in this issue already, which I think some of you are aware of. [colir=#ff0000]i was not aware of that[/color] Anyway, I'll start off with your article topics. In the past, a lot of articles were involved in straight out plagiarism. Some forumers quickly exposed this sort of attempt at attention - and rightfully so. Such disregard towards your readers, dishonesty towards the people that play the same game as you and outright arrogance to even think you can get away with doing something like that is shameful!calling me shameful?!? Come here and let me explain you something!! The topics were quickly removed, since it would be a clear disrespect to leave them in the forum. and why on earth would anyone do that Sadly, this means I can't demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about here, because every time I find the links I need I get this. Still, I felt it would be useful to provide at least a few pictures just to show my point. This stopped for a while, but it seems you've taken up a softer form of the same.

 

This sort of plagiarism is simply disgraceful. I'd blame only the topic starter, but it's evident that you work as a group and you've mentioned numerous times that you have editors. I guess they had a bad day all those times when this kind of stuff slipped by? what?!?!?!?! :o

 

You've recently started flooding the off-topic section yet again. A lot of it copied directly from the official Tanki Online Newspaper. not me because I suck at guides and another thing that I don't remember You might get inspired or motivated by our content and I support that fully. I even said that the best way to learn how to write for Tanki is to watch what official reporters do. But there's a big difference between inspiration and direct copy-pasting of an idea.thats true Originality is important, there's absolutely no point to you copying from the official newspaper. How do you possibly expect to become better if you're doing the exact same thing someone else is? At the very best case you can only hope to match the person you're copying. This kind of limit is unacceptable in any profession that requires a particular skill. agreed

 

Would you look at that! holy crap!! Seems this habit of yours stuck, huh? so if I understood this correctly, you're calling everyone here a copycat? I thought it was only limited to contest and topic ideas (such as the 3rd or 4th parody of the chicken article so far). Guess I should be flattered you've liked my intro enough to use it. uh... YouTube channel please?

 

Finally, I'll address the biggest problem in the way you do things. I hope you'll be able to fix it, but so far, it doesn't look promising. Your mindset in the way you publish simply isn't like that of a good reporter. You may say you that like writing, enjoy helping people, but from what I've seen, what you really enjoy to receive most is simply attention. seems legit because I don't see who would give an announcement without getting people's attention Because if you truly wanted to help, if you truly enjoyed what you do, you would never do the things you do! If you wanted your work to really be a quality piece of writing, you would've put effort in it! At times I stood shocked at how you openly admit to this kind of behavior. I mean, come on, even I took time analyzing your way of doing things more than you yourself did. Do you honestly think it's easy? Do you think most of a persons writing ability comes naturally to them? It comes through experience and hard work.

 

When I first joined the team, my writing was horrible. I had the game knowledge to write guides, but I simply wasn't good enough in presenting my ideas. However, unlike you I realized that I was doing something wrong, so I observed the problem. For hours and sometimes days at a time I'd work on collecting data about what people want to read, what people like to see, how it should be presented and where I should pull their attention towards. I've made countless drafts in my personal messages in order to find the ideal layout for people to follow. I still, to this day, analyze everything, looking for room to improve, not only myself, but my entire team. Documents, spreadsheets and charts with the staff activity and quality of work documented, followed by tables of data showing exactly what readers want. Writing down the number of views per every article and calculating different ratios of likes, replies and overall engagement. Searching for patterns in different article lengths and genres, checking to see what kind of newspaper promotion works best, be it on the forum, in game chats or the main page... This is the effort required to succeed. It's obvious that a lot of this stuff you wouldn't even think of doing for your group, because if you did, you'd see exactly what you have to do.

 

This kind of work isn't easy and you need to stop acting as if it is. Stop talking about how you're trying to learn and improve, stop copying off of other people and start using your brains to actually make something of substantial quality. It may take days, but if you want your goal bad enough you can have it. The problem is, you all want it for the wrong reasons, which is why you won't achieve your goal. In addition, trying desperately like you've done so far is not only disrespectful, but it's borderline breaking the forum rules.Here's a bit of additional irony - this reply is probably more thought out, researched and contains more information than most of your guides.

 

Pull yourselves together and start doing stuff properly. If you think I'm being too harsh with this, it is because all other polite suggestions simply go right through your head. Only thing I can infer from that is that someone needs to be a bit more blunt with you people. Hopefully a bit firmer criticism might actually get you to think about what you're doing. If you think you can't live up to this standard, if the amount of effort it takes is too much, if you're having any sort of doubts while reading this, I say you should just stop it all here and now. It's your decision now on how this is going to continue, make it count.

sime parts I do agree and I hate to say this but are you saying that everyone here is a copycat?

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

I never wanted to become a reporter anyways

Hmm, looking at all Fen has said, I'd say I fully agree with him.

 

Back in the original days of the TWG when bluelight1209 was the leader, it was actually pretty settled. We had a fixed mindset - to give the community a quota of articles not provided by the newspaper. And that is exactly what we did - we did it with an aim of improving our writing skills and above all, enjoying what we do.

 

I think that the facts are irrefutable. If you guys can't think of ideas, you might as well close the topic down or do some good thinking, rather than just copying the Wiki and newspaper articles.

 

And if you say you aren't plagiarizing, if you clearly recognize an article that's aped another source, why do you let it get published at all? You people are more concerned with raising your post count than actually writing useful stuff. Of the past three issues, I've only seen a couple of relevant articles, and Issue 6? None. It's a pathetic issue, even by the current standards.

 

If you want to make this club matter, either come up with some original ideas or take a look at the old TWG to see how it worked.

 

Oh, and you say your ultimate aim (at least, for some of you) is to become a reporter? You'll need to put in much more effort. Not a single person from this club has become a reporter even after six issues, whereas three of the members of the previous writing club (which lasted for half the number of publishes) have gone on to become reporters.

 

Get your mindset correct, and your priorities straight. That's it in a nutshell.

[TriNitroToIuene 4,765]

I never wanted to become a reporter anyways

If I were talking to you alone, I would have mentioned your nickname in my post.

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

If I were talking to you alone, I would have mentioned your nickname in my post.

ok but players don't always do that thing

[greyat 2,972]

Rats jumping a sinking ship.

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

Unfortunately, I must agree with most of the posts, here. There have been some unfortunate bots and pieces of plagiarism in TWG. I have honestly tried to stay as clean as possible, regarding plagiarism. I have written several Poems, which are all obviously original. My first Article had a similar format to the Wiki. I tried to improve and in my other few Guides that I wrote, I have tried to use as minimal ideas copied. However, one thing no one has mentioned here, is that we also take inspiration from Reporters. Right now, I'm trying to make an Article, related to the Tanki 10 Commandments, written by Gold, of course, I will also give credit to Gold for writing the original, and mention it was a sequel. I will most definitely not copy any of the 'Commandments' written, or at least change the content under the heading. To be completely honest, I think BTR must be truly commended. He has been brilliant. His Articles are great, with minimal mistakes for me to fix up. Other people, have a lot of mistakes that I correct for them. BTR and PDox has written amazing Articles. I think you watchers and Reporters shouldn't have made such a general post about all of TWG. We're not all people who copy Articles. Ok, if you're going to accuse my 'Gaining Quick EXP' Article of being plagiarised, I can totally understand it. I didn't know that a previous Member had written an Article on the topic but I included virtually no content from his Article. And please understand one more thing; we take inspiration from Reporters' Articles but try to add advice that previously wasn't added. For example, I started to copy the way that soc3 has the picture-title thing, wait that's it! Anyways, remember that there are people in TWG that don't plagiarise.

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

Rats jumping a sinking ship.

literal English please

[Cor7y 13,862]

Like Hichi, I'll just....

 

[Unexplainable 111]

Rats jumping a sinking ship.

good one .

[Unexplainable 111]

lol noobs , stop arguing with the reporters . reporters will always rekt you with their skill and find a way to "make" you look more stupid . just give up , you have no chance at winning .

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

lol noobs , stop arguing with the reporters . reporters will always rekt you with their skill and find a way to "make" you look more stupid . just give up , you have no chance at winning .

You're not involved in this, so don't make unnecessary comments. You portray Reporters as being rude people who go out of their way to embarrass people. They are nice people, as far as I know. I feel like they have spoken too generally, though. They shouldn't have spoken as if all of TWG is like this.

[DragonOfStorms 2,706]

Please stop trashing TWG. While I've seen some plagiarism/less-than-stellar articles, there are also many good articles. KillerGnat's article was great, all of BTRB's were great, and several other articles by various members weren't bad at all!

Edited January 31, 2016 by DragonOfStorms

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

Please stop trashing TWG. While I've seen some plagiarism/less-than-stellar articles, there are also many good articles. KillerGnat's article was great, all of BTRB's were great, and several other articles by various members weren't bad at all!

Agreed. Every word. Not all of TWG does that nonsense.

[Unexplainable 111]

You're not involved in this, so don't make unnecessary comments. You portray Reporters as being rude people who go out of their way to embarrass people. They are nice people, as far as I know. I feel like they have spoken too generally, though. They shouldn't have spoken as if all of TWG is like this.

huh , listen noob .

 

reporters rock , but reporter wannabes suck . end of story .

[Hex 11,520]

I never plagiarised a single article of mine. So I'm not a part of the plagiarisers ^.^

I might leave TWG, too much drama.

 

My articles: 

Series:

• Its Time To Excel In: Serpuhov
• Short Stories: Beginning
• The Driving Dead: The Creation

Contests: 

• [Contest] Design A Rank

+, there are 100s of articles, drafts, writing notes lying around my Desktop... 

Waiting to be published in the Issue

Of the Official Newspaper. :D

Edited January 31, 2016 by Hexed

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

huh , listen noob .

reporters rock , but reporter wannabes suck . end of story .

What's wrong with wanting to be something? It's not our fault that we have ambitions. Who do you think you are? Are we saying that Reporters suck? No, we're commending them. You're just acting as if you have all the authority in the world, when all you do, is talk crap. Going by your last few posts, all you do, is criticise people's work, without having any reasoning. Considering you're talking so much trash, can you write an Article? Can you actually provide proper reasoning explaining your useless comments? No. The Reporters have all written comments with some brains behind it. Not some silly little comment that you took 10 seconds to write. I'm agreeing with the Reporters but I feel as if they've been to general. Anyways, stay out of this, you're not involved, end of story.

[Hex 11,520]

lol noobs , stop arguing with the reporters . reporters will always rekt you with their skill and find a way to "make" you look more stupid . just give up , you have no chance at winning .

Mind your own business please?

Haven't you heard of  ~ 

Success is not final; failure is not fatal. It the the courage to continue that counts.

Edited January 31, 2016 by Hexed

[Rayyan 3,415]

Lel, first thing - all I knew was that such a topic existed, I never have read it. I have no intentions of plagarism, and don't you try defending yourselves. However, I never realized my topic intro was so similar to that one. However, I've seen one point - I did completely different things from Fen's article - the only similar thing was the intro, which I never noticed. However, I'll not defend myself further - go on. But I will destroy you, remember that.

"I will destroy you", kid we have been friends from when I was born. Yeah you always used that frustrating punctuation marks in the game chat. I believe you said that you wanted to become reporter that's why you always write with that punctuation marks. Coming to your statement, I just realized that you posted that to become a "reporter", as this rekt topic was in eyes of LeHamster, you believed to turn the tables on us and get selected by them. Nub one. A round of applaud, Nice one lol.

 

 

 

What I just said above was a full reply to your comment, and yeah A FULL Reply. It was a nice one and it was funny too. Your words just discourage the saplings of TWG, and a s a reporter its your job to encourage new reporters. Well well well, Good job you've done there. And yeah, when referring to TWG, it refers to all the members of TWG, which includes me. Well look at my topic, find any plagiarism ? If you find anyone copying, you need to instruct him personally to correct his mistakes, instead of correcting him publically. And yeah, the issue I made on broccoli, you think its a copy ? Never. The other two articles actually says what they are, but mine is a bit different from there's. If you really wanna argue about it being a copy, then don't forget that it was LHamster that started plagriasing Hogree.

 

 

Can you name any person on EARTH that haven't yet copied anything ? Even the idea of the Tanki newspaper section was a copy at the first place. And sorry, I can't put some words as white, coz I'm using a phone right now. The things we use , the things we do, and the things we want to do or use are all a copy.We are trying our best to improve, and apologize our what this team has done. Thanks for the advice mate ;D

 

 

Agreed.

 

Since when do we have the power to decide who is and isn't part of an unofficial group?

 

And what are you trying to suggest? Are you bringing out baseless accusations now? Where has that come from?

Uncle, woah I think that you thought about I am saying to you that you will kick me? Such nub. I said it to Darren :P

Wait, I know how to reply that stuff.

 

My article:

• Published 1.5 years after the original
• Published in the official newspaper where standards are high and plagiarism is not tolerated
• Mentions that its a sequel
• Is a homage to hogree and the original
• Uses a different format to the original

Either it's a sequel or anything but you copied from him :lol:

 

Hmm, looking at all Fen has said, I'd say I fully agree with him.

 

Back in the original days of the TWG when bluelight1209 was the leader, it was actually pretty settled. We had a fixed mindset - to give the community a quota of articles not provided by the newspaper. And that is exactly what we did - we did it with an aim of improving our writing skills and above all, enjoying what we do.

 

I think that the facts are irrefutable. If you guys can't think of ideas, you might as well close the topic down or do some good thinking, rather than just copying the Wiki and newspaper articles.

 

And if you say you aren't plagiarizing, if you clearly recognize an article that's aped another source, why do you let it get published at all? You people are more concerned with raising your post count than actually writing useful stuff. Of the past three issues, I've only seen a couple of relevant articles, and Issue 6? None. It's a pathetic issue, even by the current standards.

 

If you want to make this club matter, either come up with some original ideas or take a look at the old TWG to see how it worked.

 

Oh, and you say your ultimate aim (at least, for some of you) is to become a reporter? You'll need to put in much more effort. Not a single person from this club has become a reporter even after six issues, whereas three of the members of the previous writing club (which lasted for half the number of publishes) have gone on to become reporters.

 

Get your mindset correct, and your priorities straight. That's it in a nutshell.

Sorry :(

 

 

 

sime parts I do agree and I hate to say this but are you saying that everyone here is a copycat?

 

 

Yeah, I think so. I am not a copy cat. :o

 

Ok, after a long post of Sarcastic comments. I really apologize to everyone and hope that this mistake won't happen again :) Whole TWG's aim was to become a reporter or a wiki editor. But I think we are unfit for it. I am really sorry Lhamster that I had a rude talk with you. Good luck. I really hope you guys forgive us. :)

 

GUYS! If you really want to save your asses, don't make this debate enormous.

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

D4T, as an honest person, I'd like to address something to you.
 
The very day this thread opened, I was asked to join, I denied with a simple "Maybe later". I didn't deny because I didn't have time, nor because I didn't like the people in the group, but because I knew that in two to three months, the whole thread would come crashing down like a brick thrown down from a cloud.
Many have said, which I must agree with, that when the first writers of the official unofficial writers wrote their articles, I quite enjoyed the idea of an unofficial newspaper/group of reporters, I even considered joining it as well. But then, when the topic faded out, and then others tried copying the idea, all it was, was a big fat joke.
If you want to become a reporter by showing your gratitude in an unofficial newspaper, at least role out with articles at a set time (nevermind if they're good or not). If, when you are an official reporter, and the due date for articles comes, you can't be like "Give me another day". I'd saying being a reporter is the hardest staff position in Tanki. The reporters work so hard to create an article that's worth reading. Think about it, they put so much effort into their articles, that they never have time to rank up, thus, ranking at the pace of a slug.
Now look at you, you're chilled out, half quit Tanki, and didn't even look for someone too take over the club, or even close it. Truly a disaster.
 
Oh yea, and don't get me started on the plagiarism, it's just crazy. If you even become a real writer one day (forget Tanki, I'm talking real life here), and plagiarize someone's book or article, it's a matter of hours before the world here's about it and you're outta business. Remember, plagiarism is another word of "stealing words from someone else's mouth", I learned about it in 4th grade.
Be smart guys, because plagiarism isn't just wrong, it can turn into a nasty rabbit.
Sorry for being so harsh, but it's the truth.

Edited January 31, 2016 by DonCarnage

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

 

 

D4T, as an honest person, I'd like to address something to you.

 

The very day this thread opened, I was asked to join, I denied with a simple "Maybe later". I didn't deny because I didn't have time, nor because I didn't like the people in the group, but because I knew that in two to three months, the whole thread would come crashing down like a brick thrown down from a cloud.

Many have said, which I must agree with, that when the first writers of the official unofficial writers wrote their articles, I quite enjoyed the idea of an unofficial newspaper/group of reporters, I even considered joining it as well. But then, when the topic faded out, and then others tried copying the idea, all it was, was a big fat joke.

If you want to become a reporter by showing your gratitude in an unofficial newspaper, at least role out with articles at a set time (nevermind if they're good or not). If, when you are an official reporter, and the due date for articles comes, you can't be like "Give me another day". I'd saying being a reporter is the hardest staff position in Tanki. The reporters work so hard to create an article that's worth reading. Think about it, they put so much effort into their articles, that they never have time to rank up, thus, ranking at the pace of a slug.

Now look at you, you're chilled out, half quit Tanki, and didn't even look for someone too take over the club, or even close it. Truly a disaster.

 

Sorry for being so harsh, but it's the truth.   

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I must agree with most of the above post. It is true. As much as I like you, Darren, I think that TWG was not managed very well. We should have made people write at leas 3-4 Articles to prove that they are worthy of joining. We needed better management, like BTR, who writes consistently great Articles and that (I think) can manage this group well.