Thank you helpers

[KillerGnat 3,135]

On November eleventh, many of us celebrated Veterans day, a day when we commemorate war heroes who gave their lives to preserve our freedom. For that they have our unending thanks. Today though, November thirteenth, I would like to give thanks for Tanki's unsung heroes: mods. They spend hours a day on the chats making this game fit to play. Without them, the Tankiverse would be a confusing mix of chaos. And yet, you hardly ever hear a word of gratitude toward them. Whenever I see a mod on the chats, instead hearing people thank him, I see insults being hurled at him. Somehow though, he manages to keep his cool, suffering to make this game better. I know coming from a noob this might not sound great, but thank you mods for the great work you're doing.

 

 

 

 

 

KG

[dilsharox 2,395]

+1

[Zenyth 6,494]

Thanks Mods

[GHOST68INVINCIBLE 152]

We love u mods :D thanks for keeping our game running peacefully ;)

[BuriedSky 1,319]

Thank You dear Mods; and yes, the Admins...

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I am impressed by your courtesy KillerGnat

 

Edited November 13, 2015 by BuriedSky

[Quarks 2,255]

While the mods tend to be the players punching bags, I would still want to be a helper. Thanks to all mods.

[hhgb 2,655]

While the mods tend to be the players punching bags, I would still want to be a helper. Thanks to all mods.

It's the other way around.

 

Players are the mod's punching bag.

[Quarks 2,255]

It's the other way around.

 

Players are the mod's punching bag.

Where did the dislike button go when I need it.

[emrakul 7,801]

:wub:

[personia 4,036]

I make sure to thank the mods every time I see them on the chat banning people. What I find sad is the people who try to help the mods get abused, and they can't just automatically ban...

 

Good job mods!

[DragonOfStorms 2,706]

Yes, thank you mods!

[Rico_Viking_9000 942]

Deserved to be more popular here...

[KillerGnat 3,135]

Most of these threads get closed. I'm not complaining though, and I still have the same views  :).

[The-Operator219 1,929]

It's the other way around.

 

Players are the mod's punching bag.

.-. And why do you think they get onto players?

Because a majority of them are rule-breakers.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Still, just follow the rules and you'll be fine. :3

It's not hard to understand.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Player The-Operator219 has been banned for a day. Reason: Insults, profanity (Forum). 

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

And I don't care if I'm the oddball here. This place would be fine, regardless of whether mods here existed or not. In fact, I would argue it would be better without anyone having the privilege of doing certain things and gaining crys for it. In fact, they gain more crystals modding, while at the same time we earn less by playing in battles. Privilege to its finest!

No, this forum would be a utter mess without mods. And without them it would (have to) be closed in less than a week imo.

And besides it 's more than fair they gain some crystals for all the time they invest in modding.

 

To make a comparison in real life: completely remove the police in a civilised country for some days...

and see how "civilized" it will remain.

Just like in school, working place or a family: you need to have some authority.

 

Is that authority always going to be flawless?

No, ofcourse not authority is human too, but it 's always way better than the alternative.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Lhamster 4,081]

I am not too familiar with these two websties, but I'm pretty sure, that they have no supervision or barely any at all there. I am talking about 4chan and reddit.

LOL. You do realise these two sites have some of the worst reputations on the internet?

 

I guess it's a nitpick, but modding isn't what they do. Modding for various games is making mods; your personal desired or desired by other people in the community modifications of an existing game. What moderators do here and basically everywhere else is enforce the rules.

Modding = modify

Modding = moderate

 

Same abbreviation, different words.

 

most of them are completely insane, unnecessary and/or are there solely for controlling users' opinion and/or way of expression.

 

In terms of removing police, I'd need to get deeper into social construct, so I think leaving it there is fine, unless you want a deep discussion somewhere about it. And if you think a huge crime outbreak would come along if you removed police in a society, you are completely wrong.

The rules are similar to that of a functioning society. In the same way, a functioning society has a police force, how on earth you think having no police would have no effect on crime I have no idea. You want to see what that (basically anarchy) looks like? Take a look at Somalia.

 

the fact that you get extreme privileges in comparison to other people by being a certain authority

You mean being paid to do a job?

 

If you think people can't organise themselves without somebody being in charge, research "cooperatives". It's workplace related, btw.

They have nothing to do with the rest of this conversation. If you want an actual sociological example, look at communism and how that totally worked.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Lhamster

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Thanks for your polite and well thought reply.

 

I am not too familiar with these two websties, but I'm pretty sure, that they have no supervision or barely any at all there. I am talking about 4chan and reddit. There is one big difference imo: this forum is for all ages and they have imo therefore rightfully choosen to moderate it.

It 's a game for all ages and I think it 's fair you put in some kind of protection for especially younger tankers.

And it 's mainly a game forum not a general forum like the ones you mentioned.

 

It is true that some weird things would be posted. But so what? People should have the freedom to post whatever they want on the internet, instead of being controlled by a certain few privileged group of people. And why wouldn't they be able to? Because somebody somewhere might find something offensive? Git thick! See first answer.

 

I guess it's a nitpick, but modding isn't what they do. Modding for various games is making mods; your personal desired or desired by other people in the community modifications of an existing game. What moderators do here and basically everywhere else is enforce the rules, which even they might disagree with, and in terms of this game, most of them are completely insane, unnecessary and/or are there solely for controlling users' opinion and/or way of expression. Personally I don 't think there 's that much restriction if you stay polite and don 't become offensive. You can be very negative about

the game for example, I often have been imo, and my posts weren 't removed.

 

Authority is not the issue, it's the way it's carried out and the fact that you get extreme privileges in comparison to other people by being a certain authority, be it here or in some society, which btw, in many cases lets the people in authority get away with something that would get them in big trouble if they did not have such status. In short; there are types of authority and times when authority is necessary and justified, but for the most part it is not. In terms of removing police, I'd need to get deeper into social construct, so I think leaving it there is fine, unless you want a deep discussion somewhere about it. And if you think a huge crime outbreak would come along if you removed police in a society, you are completely wrong.

I agree, that we disagree here for the most part. ;)

But I agree with you it 's a grey zone, not with black and white answers if you get what I mean.

 

If you think people can't organise themselves without somebody being in charge, research "cooperatives". It's workplace related, btw.

Yes, I agree but even in cooperatives you will have people who will put in ideas, plans and more or less lead and people who will

only follow and ofc. people in the middle.

And if someone falls out of line, there will be either group pressure or someone who will speak out.

So even in these cooperatives you will see some kind of natural moderation.

 

 

 

[KillerGnat 3,135]

 

And I don't care if I'm the oddball here. This place would be fine, regardless of whether mods here existed or not. In fact, I would argue it would be better without anyone having the privilege of doing certain things and gaining crys for it. In fact, they gain more crystals modding, while at the same time we earn less by playing in battles. Privilege to its finest!

 

 

Yeah, just obey whatever you're told and you'll be fine! Just remember NOT TO BE YOURSELF and be whatever the hell you can be or whatever the hell this requires you to be like. What could possibly be wrong with that, ei? It's not like people will become completely irrational and drone-like in their language! Enforcing something that is subjective is completely fine!

 

(I haven't been more sarcastic since... forever!)

 

 

I am not too familiar with these two websties, but I'm pretty sure, that they have no supervision or barely any at all there. I am talking about 4chan and reddit.

 

It is true that some weird things would be posted. But so what? People should have the freedom to post whatever they want on the internet, instead of being controlled by a certain few privileged group of people. And why wouldn't they be able to? Because somebody somewhere might find something offensive? Git thick!

 

I guess it's a nitpick, but modding isn't what they do. Modding for various games is making mods; your personal desired or desired by other people in the community modifications of an existing game. What moderators do here and basically everywhere else is enforce the rules, which even they might disagree with, and in terms of this game, most of them are completely insane, unnecessary and/or are there solely for controlling users' opinion and/or way of expression.

 

Authority is not the issue, it's the way it's carried out and the fact that you get extreme privileges in comparison to other people by being a certain authority, be it here or in some society, which btw, in many cases lets the people in authority get away with something that would get them in big trouble if they did not have such status. In short; there are types of authority and times when authority is necessary and justified, but for the most part it is not. In terms of removing police, I'd need to get deeper into social construct, so I think leaving it there is fine, unless you want a deep discussion somewhere about it. And if you think a huge crime outbreak would come along if you removed police in a society, you are completely wrong.

 

If you think people can't organise themselves without somebody being in charge, research "cooperatives". It's workplace related, btw.

Man! You seem to have some warped views in life  :P. I remember when you posted on my premium players thread too, and you were the same way. You're probably a troll....

 

 

Anyways, both Lham and L-O-T-S answered you pretty darn well, so I don't feel the need to do it again (Ty guys). 

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

 

 

 

Lhamster, on 22 Feb 2016 - 16:58, said:

LOL. You do realise these two sites have some of the worst reputations on the internet? For one it's still better than dictatorship, which is what this place is, more or less. And still, why does it matter? So long as you keep fairly anonymous, they are not dangerous places for you whatsoever.

 

Wth? Tanki has nothing to do with dictatorship!!(except Rail/Dictator :P ) I think that Tanki has VERY fair mods! Sure, there are always those times where a mod is unfair or something, but in general they all seem like pretty good people. They are not the ones who chose the game rules, so you shoulnt insult them or get pissed off....they are just doing their jobs...

Modding = modify

Modding = moderate

 

Same abbreviation, different words. Yeah. I know. I don't know why I put that there >_>

Well it wasn't shown very clearly

The rules are similar to that of a functioning society. In the same way, a functioning society has a police force, how on earth you think having no police would have no effect on crime I have no idea. You want to see what that (basically anarchy) looks like? Take a look at Somalia. I will. Meanwhile, take a look at Spain in 1936, in particular Catalonia. It goes pretty deep and I doubt you'll understand the political structures and views of each of the sides that were there.

I doubt that YOU understand the veiws of each side, though i bet i would. I pride myself in knowing that i can see a situation from both sides, so i do understand why you could be angry at them, but i also know that they are probebly pretty pretty angry at people who insult them and never appretiate what they do. I appretiate them, and my proof is that i attempted to write the word appretiate. I dont think i spelled it correct....

You mean being paid to do a job? No. I mean; being able to get away with doing things, which would normally be considered outrageous and have serious consequences.

They have nothing to do with the rest of this conversation. If you want an actual sociological example, look at communism and how that totallyworked. What you deem to be true communism isn't what I'd agree on being true communism. The term is subjective. Basically any word is. If you're talking about state having absolute control over the means of production and top-down control over the public being an extremely bad idea, then I'd agree. Have a cookie for that!

True, that could be a pretty bad idea, but what made you think that? There is absolutly nothing centered around Tanki that could relate to that

 

 

Lord-of-the-Snipers, on 22 Feb 2016 - 17:00, said:

Wiki-tank, on 22 Feb 2016 - 15:59, said:

 

 

 

Thanks for your polite and well thought reply. Not sure if serious. Probably not. Also, I care not about politeness. I don't care if I'm not being polite to others and I don't care if others are being polite to me. It's called being thick. And being thick is a type of strength, because you can overcome things and take things for granted where they should be, instead of taking something that's just thrown out once at you to the heart, at a point, where your feelings are valued more than somebody's ability to speak out.

 

Well, when somebody calls you "thick", it is , in many cases, an insult. So you call yourself thick? Thats a new one. And now since you said you dont care about rudeness, il filter myself a bit less. Im not gonna be throwing curses or anything at you, but my above paragraphs were a bit nicer than the next one will probebly be.

 

If everyone in the world was never polite, considerate, or some other type of kindness, i bet we would be in the middle of WW7, and Columbus would never have "discovered" The New World. Shakesphere would have been murdered in cold blood as a child, America would have a had one hell of a time trying to develop as a bunch of drunks would be rampageing the streets every night. My point is that this thing called "Kindness" is not just for little kids. If you think this way your whole life, you will probebly be that poor loser down the street that everyone hates and avoids, but they feel bad for at the same time. At least they would feel bad for you, unlike what you would(based on how youv been acting here) to others...

 

I am not too familiar with these two websties, but I'm pretty sure, that they have no supervision or barely any at all there. I am talking about 4chan and reddit. There is one big difference imo: this forum is for all ages and they have imo therefore rightfully choosen to moderate it.

It 's a game for all ages and I think it 's fair you put in some kind of protection for especially younger tankers.

And it 's mainly a game forum not a general forum like the ones you mentioned. I hate it when people make this argument! It's literally the opposite of what kids need! They need to know the world the way it truly is instead of being in a place where people are being nice all the time, to a point where they start to think that the world revolves around them. People are not being themselves because of this control over language; they are pretending to people because there's some dudes checking on their every word and relating them to whatever kind of things they have thought up should be the way people should talk. Reason? My previous point. Plus, my point actually gives a good reason as to why language should not be "moderated", where as you just have an opinion as to why it SHOULD be".

 

*sigh* go to Advice from Experienced players to Beginners....go back a few pages...you will find someone who said how there friend was picked on and insulted because he is black.... that is how tanki would always be...there are hundereds of jerks online daily in tanki....remove the mods and there would be THOUSANDS of jerks. I know that some people are only nice because they are afraid of being banned by a mod(im actually thinking of one particular person now...take a guess...), and thy would show their true colors if the mods just up and left...

 

It is true that some weird things would be posted. But so what? People should have the freedom to post whatever they want on the internet, instead of being controlled by a certain few privileged group of people. And why wouldn't they be able to? Because somebody somewhere might find something offensive? Git thick! See first answer. < you too!

 

I guess it's a nitpick, but modding isn't what they do. Modding for various games is making mods; your personal desired or desired by other people in the community modifications of an existing game. What moderators do here and basically everywhere else is enforce the rules, which even they might disagree with, and in terms of this game, most of them are completely insane, unnecessary and/or are there solely for controlling users' opinion and/or way of expression. Personally I don 't think there 's that much restriction if you stay polite and don 't become offensive. You can be very negative about

the game for example, I often have been imo, and my posts weren 't removed. See first answer. And although you might not feel like your language is being restricted and changed, all just for the worst, other people, myself included do have this. Heck; I got a warning point for saying the first two letters of the F word! I think that's the reason at least... because I haven't said any proper curse words being spelt out correctly at all since like forever, and I'm 100% sure of that.

 

Authority is not the issue, it's the way it's carried out and the fact that you get extreme privileges in comparison to other people by being a certain authority, be it here or in some society, which btw, in many cases lets the people in authority get away with something that would get them in big trouble if they did not have such status. In short; there are types of authority and times when authority is necessary and justified, but for the most part it is not. In terms of removing police, I'd need to get deeper into social construct, so I think leaving it there is fine, unless you want a deep discussion somewhere about it. And if you think a huge crime outbreak would come along if you removed police in a society, you are completely wrong.

I agree, that we disagree here for the most part. ;)

But I agree with you it 's a grey zone, not with black and white answers if you get what I mean. I'm tired of this myself, so I'll cut you the slack of not having a proper response to this one.

 

If you think people can't organise themselves without somebody being in charge, research "cooperatives". It's workplace related, btw.

Yes, I agree but even in cooperatives you will have people who will put in ideas, plans and more or less lead and people who will

only follow and ofc. people in the middle.

And if someone falls out of line, there will be either group pressure or someone who will speak out.

So even in these cooperatives you will see some kind of natural moderation. One question: does that justify authority which has no right or necessity to be there and do what it does? I don't think it does -.-. And wait - you skipped on responding properly to my previous post, but decided to do so here? How come?! This is very intertwined with the previous post! It's a shame, man, it's a shame :(

Well...just to tell you....Tanki has a perfectly good reason to have athority....they made this who thing, so its only fair if they can deceide weather they want people spamming and insulting and teaching kids new words or not...they would rather that those things wernt here. If you dont like it, leave and stop bothing people who appretiate the authority, or suck it up and dont pester everyone. Notice how both choices involved stopping your annoying, warped logic. I bet ur either some pre-teen who thinks they know everything, or some guy whos liveing off the local Food Pantry and getting your electricity from your neighbors and you only hate authority because you are constantly meeting it.

 

Edited February 23, 2016 by MrCheezyPotato

[beaku 2,656]

Wiki-tank, I'd like to point out a major flaw in your 'kids should be exposed to vulgar stuff' content..... Actually, you know what, let me tell you what's correct about your argument: Nothing.

 

Yes, kids have to grow up and face the real world, but that does not imply than you show them the real world in a cynical, pessimistic view. Everything comes with age. You need a mature and informed mind to be able to judge the socially-acceptable from the forbidden. That comes with age. Moreover, this is Tanki Forum. People are here because they enjoy playing Tanki. A video game . They expect the Forum to have discussions of the game and of course, a few off topic discussions as well. No person, no matter what age, expects any kind of vulgar content or extreme language. If they wanted that, there are other places on the Internet.

If your logic applied, all PG-13 movies would be filled with swear words and explicit scenes. Now, if you're still gonna tell me that everyone else in the world is wrong then , my dear friend, you need to close that screen and go out. Experience the world. Get proper education not just in terms of academic subjects, but in something more important: Life Skills.

 

There are still people who either think like you, or just don't care. These are the ones who continue breaking the rules by using vulgar language. Rules which have been made by intelligent and educated people and are enforced by an active and dedicated group of volunteers: The moderators. Instead of realising their importance and being grateful, you'd rather give them 'dictatorial' status. What exactly do you want? If you want this forum to become 4chan or reddit, then just go to 4chan or reddit.

Edited February 23, 2016 by beaku

[Maf 32,308]

 In fact, they gain more crystals modding, while at the same time we earn less by playing in battles.

Well in fact, I actually did some calculations and found out that we get as many crystals for our work as we would get if we spent all the time on playing instead of working here. So if I spend 4 hours a day every day on the forum for a week, I would get approximately as many crystals as playing a non-stop battle for 28 hours on Polygon DM. Which seems completely fair to me.

 

And if we weren't around, then the difference would be that the forum would be full of phishing links, pointless arguments and insults, random flood topics and posts, and any children visiting the forum would be exposed to massive amounts of swearing and other inappropriate content. If that's what you consider to be "fine", then I'm not gonna argue with you :)

[Jwimmer 2,835]

Well in fact, I actually did some calculations and found out that we get as many crystals for our work as we would get if we spent all the time on playing instead of working here. So if I spend 4 hours a day every day on the forum for a week, I would get approximately as many crystals as playing a non-stop battle for 28 hours on Polygon DM. Which seems completely fair to me.

 

And if we weren't around, then the difference would be that the forum would be full of phishing links, pointless arguments and insults, random flood topics and posts, and any children visiting the forum would be exposed to massive amounts of swearing and other inappropriate content. If that's what you consider to be "fine", then I'm not gonna argue with you :)

4 hours of moderating = 28 hours of Poly DM? Am I missing something or is this a complete contradiction from your first sentence? I completely agree with your second paragraph though

[Maf 32,308]

4 hours of moderating = 28 hours of Poly DM? Am I missing something or is this a complete contradiction from your first sentence? I completely agree with your second paragraph though

I was talking about a whole week. 4 hours of working = crystals from 4 hours of gameplay.