Ahh, I see

[murcielagoes 331]

Okay seriously tanki, we get the joke, now make speed up discounts higher than micro-upgrades thank you :) 

[Rayyan 3,415]

Hi, the discounts depend on developers, if you have any complain against it you can contact @Cedric Debono. And also you can try posting it in the ongoing may celebration topic for good attention http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=356366&page=22&do=findComment&comment=6120074 . Posting / spamming here  wont help.

Edited May 5, 2017 by Quasar

[Ninja 10,468]

What exactly do you want to accomplish with this topic?

[Maf 32,302]

Discounts are carefully chosen to equally benefit both developers and players. Devs can't afford to give higher discounts because if they do, then players will stop spending money on the game and the project will die. This is why we do not accept ideas for adding or increasing discounts.

 

As for the upgrade waiting time - that's just a standard feature of free-to-play games. You either spend a little and wait for a long time, or spend extra to reduce the waiting time. So the option to buy convenience for money is always there for you :)

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Man, I was lucky using speed ups back in the day when they still were somewhat affordable.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I think we're all waiting for a 50% sale on micro-upgrades and a 70% discount of speedups for the June birthday. If tha doesn't happen then I suggest we all quit.

[CooperO 7,956]

You know why there are two separate micro-upgrade discounts during the May Holidays celebrations?

 

Additionally, we’re kicking off AND ending our celebrations with 30% off Micro-Upgrades and Speed-Ups for 24 hours. We’ve split these up so that even if you don’t want to use Speed-Ups, you can still get at least two Micro-Upgrade slots on the cheap.

Step upgrades have never been cheaper, the price of that is that you either have to wait, or you'll have to spend crystals on expensive speed-ups.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

You know why there are two separate micro-upgrade discounts during the May Holidays celebrations?

 

Step upgrades have never been cheaper, the price of that is that you either have to wait, or you'll have to spend crystals on expensive speed-ups.

Two microupgrades is nothing! There aren't many MU sales so it could take a year to get M4 :blink:

 

Once you get past 10 microupgrades, they all take at least 5 days without speed ups.

 

Come on tanki... nearly all the legends benefitted from 70% speed up sales (and other sales) back in the day and now have lots of M4s. I seriously hope we get a 70% discount on speed ups in the birthday sales otherwise there's nothing more to play for.

[CooperO 7,956]

Two microupgrades is nothing! There aren't many MU sales so it could take a year to get M4 :blink:

 

Once you get past 10 microupgrades, they all take at least 5 days without speed ups.

Then buy them without a sale, they're already 50% off from what they used to be just a little while ago. Also, now there are only 10 steps, and 20 steps on m3 items. Doing 2 steps is 10-20% of the way, that's not nothing. Yes, micro-upgrades are expensive, but it's so much cheaper to get M4 now than before the update that changed all that. But I guess it will never be enough.

[Magenta 5,165]

Then buy them without a sale, they're already 50% off from what they used to be just a little while ago. Also, now there are only 10 steps, and 20 steps on m3 items. Doing 2 steps is 10-20% of the way, that's not nothing. Yes, micro-upgrades are expensive, but it's so much cheaper to get M4 now than before the update that changed all that. But I guess it will never be enough.

people dont calculate. they just see the numer, whoa its massive, tanki devs are greedy. period. thats how people's minds work.

[Hate 5,582]

people dont calculate. they just see the numer, whoa its massive, tanki devs are greedy. period. thats how people's minds work.

Not all people's mind, but yes I do agree. Some people are like that, whatever you give them is never enough for them, no matter how big/small it is. Another problem is that many players don't visit the Forum or watch the weekly V-Logs which usually developers tell what has changed and in what way, whether it is good or not so when they see the changes, they will be like ''Oh, what is it, etc'' so that is another problem but now I guess that will change since that ''News tap'' was added in the game so not many would probably miss most of the things and even if they did, it will be impossible to look at the chat before changing the tap so they will at least get some kind of idea on what has been changed even if they just look at it for couple seconds.

[Dopey 99]

:/

[Magenta 5,165]

Not all people's mind, but yes I do agree.

of course, when u refer to a group of people or community, u don't really mean all the people. u mean most. there are always exceptional people in groups and community who are different from the mainstream. so when u refer to a group or community, u refer to the mainstream characteristics.

[Hate 5,582]

 

Absolutely absolutely.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

The 20 steps cost the same as 50 steps...

 

In the past people got constant sales on microupgrades, hence they all have M4s. But now it's all about buying...

[Magenta 5,165]

The 20 steps cost the same as 50 steps...

may i see the calculation to prove that? *smirks*

[D.a.n.t.e 475]

Two microupgrades is nothing! There aren't many MU sales so it could take a year to get M4 :blink:

 

Once you get past 10 microupgrades, they all take at least 5 days without speed ups.

 

Come on tanki... nearly all the legends benefitted from 70% speed up sales (and other sales) back in the day and now have lots of M4s. I seriously hope we get a 70% discount on speed ups in the birthday sales otherwise there's nothing more to play for.

The solution to that should be breaking up the Legend rank into 5 ranks:

 

Legend 1 = new Legend 1

Legend 2 and 3 = new Legend 2

Legend 4 to 7 = new Legend 3

Legend 8 to 15 = new Legend 4

Legend 16 to 31 = new Legend 5

Legend 32+ = new Addictissimo

[CooperO 7,956]

The 20 steps cost the same as 50 steps...

 

In the past people got constant sales on microupgrades, hence they all have M4s. But now it's all about buying...

:lol: I don't have a single M4. Micro-upgrades were expensive, speed-ups took forever then too. I only micro-upgraded during sales.

Now the overall price of micro-upgrades (step + speed up cost) is still the same, but the good part is that you don't NEED the speed-ups to micro upgrade your equipment. It's twice as cheap now to micro-upgrade your equipment, as long as you don't use speed-ups. 

 

About 20 steps costing the same as 50 steps, yes (including speed-ups), BUT to get the same amount of progress before, you had to mu 2,5 steps and pay for 2 speed-ups, while now you have to pay for 1 step and pay for no speed up. This, together with the step cost being halved, makes micro-upgrading cheaper, if you have some patience and know how to get the most out of it.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

I seriously thought everything became more expensive aswell because I saw those massive prices.

Tanki did a clever move here by decreasing the steps and increasing the timer; people are impatient in general.

It'll make them go use speed-ups more likely.

 

But do you save a lot compared to the old method when you're never going to use speed ups?

It seems to me like all they did was to decrease upgrade steps and increase the cost of that step + speed ups.

[CooperO 7,956]

I seriously thought everything became more expensive aswell because I saw those massive prices.

Tanki did a clever move here by decreasing the steps and increasing the timer; people are impatient in general.

It'll make them go use speed-ups more likely.

 

But do you save a lot compared to the old method when you're never going to use speed ups?

It seems to me like all they did was to decrease upgrade steps and increase the cost of that step + speed ups.

The total step cost of an m4 turret is currently 455900, before it was 911800 (excluding speed ups).

[Captain.x 511]

Don't wait for Micro upgrades sale to MU, even if there is a sale of 70% on Speed ups you are still better off doing MUs without speed ups even if there is no sale

Here is how the math works

Say you have an MU step worth 25000 crystals
it's Speed up is now standard x2 = 50000 crystals
Total = 75000 crystals

with an 50% sale on both MUs and Speed ups the step will cost you :

75000 x 0.5 = 37500 crystals

you can see that if you MU when there is no sale and without doing a speed up you will save 37500 - 25000 = 12500 crystals


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with a 50% sale on MUs and 70% sale on SUs the step will cost you:

(25000 x 0.5) + ( 50000 x 0.3) = 27500 crystals

Still more expensive than Microupgrading right now without a speed up

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The only time an MU sale will save you money is if the MU sale is 50% and SU sale is more than 75%

And even then you are still better upgrading right now because it means your equipment will have more MU steps earlier, and when the sale comes you will be saving more crystals on higher steps which cost more
 

[splitterpoint 10,986]

The total step cost of an m4 turret is currently 455900, before it was 911800 (excluding speed ups).

Thanks, man that's quite something!

[TheBlackChick 319]

The only time an MU sale will save you money is if the MU sale is 50% and SU sale is more than 75%

 

And even then you are still better upgrading right now because it means your equipment will have more MU steps earlier, and when the sale comes you will be saving more crystals on higher steps which cost more

Happy to see someone with enough brain and patience to notice that.

[CooperO 7,956]

 

Don't wait for Micro upgrades sale to MU, even if there is a sale of 70% on Speed ups you are still better off doing MUs without speed ups even if there is no sale

 

Here is how the math works

 

Say you have an MU step worth 25000 crystals

it's Speed up is now standard x2 = 50000 crystals

Total = 75000 crystals

 

with an 50% sale on both MUs and Speed ups the step will cost you :

 

75000 x 0.5 = 37500 crystals

 

you can see that if you MU when there is no sale and without doing a speed up you will save 37500 - 25000 = 12500 crystals

 

 

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with a 50% sale on MUs and 70% sale on SUs the step will cost you:

 

(25000 x 0.5) + ( 50000 x 0.3) = 27500 crystals

 

Still more expensive than Microupgrading right now without a speed up

 

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The only time an MU sale will save you money is if the MU sale is 50% and SU sale is more than 75%

 

And even then you are still better upgrading right now because it means your equipment will have more MU steps earlier, and when the sale comes you will be saving more crystals on higher steps which cost more

 

 

Then at least take advantage of the sale by upgrading just one step..;p

[Captain.x 511]

Then at least take advantage of the sale by upgrading just one step..;p

Yep!

I am timing my current MUs so that all well be done on or before the 9th 30% sale

Edited May 5, 2017 by Captain.x