What Is Your Opinion About the Current State of Tanki Online?

[TheCongoSpider 8,962]

Have you ever had an awful year in Tanki Online?

 

I was going to make a long-winded post that I was planning to write for months but it was running on and on so I'll make it shorter.  2024 in Tanki has been the definition of discomfort for me, for numerous reasons stemming back to mid-2023. The strongest gut punch from my perspective was mobile transitioning into a flaming trashheap overnight in April. Almost everywhere within the app was a QoL downgrade. All the comfort I had with Android despite the very annoying bugs that persisted for years, was gone. Performance issues, control input issues, camera issues and so many other things made playing the game after the transition uncomfortable. All of these issues shoehorned me into a much smaller list of equipment I could use in battle, so small you could count it on your hands. 

 

The energy I had to exert to complete special missions on one account on HTML5 was the same as doing multiple on Android. As as luck would have it, the first iterations of Contracts appeared. 3,000 reputation points per contract, multiple Contracts required. And there started the months of suffering I had in MM. The augment balance since May has been...I don't even know how to describe it. Some of the most baffling changes I've seen. Some of them were deserved buffs/nerds and others like Tandem and Plasma Turbo Accelerators were ludicrous. It was also there when I started noticing a large jump in the amount of groups I was fighting against in MM. Almost every battle felt like a sweatshop with the enemies I was fighting. All using the augments for their turrets that were very clearly made overtuned. PTA, Tandem, Vacuum Missiles, Faust, Strict Ammunition Load, Adaptive Reload, Large Calibre (hiss), Critical Mix, Healing Emitters, Status Teslas, Heavy Slugger, Hunter Duplet, Swarm, Round Destabilisation, Shock Freeze, Blaster, Lifeguard, Miner and an assortment of the practical Pulsars, all with their strong drones, especially Defender. 

Almost. Every. God. Damn. Battle. Not only did I have to fight against these powerful things in groups, I had to be fighting them while also fighting HTML5 itself and all the shackles it placed on me. At some point it became too much and I stopped playing for about almost 2 months. I would only come in to check the settings on the event modes, test some things and go back out. One day I would feel to play Tanki, then I remember all the BS I would have had to go through with HTML5 and the equipment I'd be fighting at that time and it would instantly turn me off. I wanted to enjoy the game but the game wouldn't let me. 

 

I slowly came back to playing when I decided I would use a variety of non-PTA Twins augments to complete missions, just to prove to myself that although it may look weak on paper, it could still do just as well as PTA at the time could with enough effort put into it. It was tough but it made me start enjoying the game again even with all the limitations (especially supply activation). Finally many months after the transition, auto-supplies came back. It's far from perfect but it was a massive weight off of my mind and I no longer had to be interacting with that asinine supply wheel as often as I was before. Auto-supplies release meant a few more turrets and augments became more comfortable for me to use, particularly with Crisis. When auto-supplies came, it brought back the functionality of Android where you could queue up your next supply while it was on the cooldown. After one week, that functionality was removed for some reason and Crisis is back to kicking up dust in my garage and frustrating me whenever I do decide to give it another chance. 

 

Then bots came to Legend battles. Initially it was ok whenever I played near the server restart. But then the score nerf happened and now it's a slog to play in bot lobbies without specific equipment. Worse yet is being matched against a sweatsquad with a healer and not being able to do anything because bot scores are too low and actually going after the sweatsquad members is a lost cause with a competent healer present. Here we are now at the end of the year with a one-shot Magnum augment and a Freeze augment that quite literally rattles my head whenever I try to comprehend it. Some turrets having decelerating projectiles for some odd reason. Twins I understand as it would help it close range but why for Thunder, Gauss and Smoky? Why Ricochet? Plasma Disruptor being the latest nonsense alongside Crit Mix Freeze which is just straight damage inflation. 

A Patch some weeks ago made some equipment feels better to use, like Smoky, so I now have more options to play with at random. There are many issues still waiting to be addressed and I wouldn't be surprised if it took another year for it to happen. Epic keys feel lifeless with all these fodder rewards like paints recently. I'm also not looking forward to Shock Nanobot groups in Team Juggernaut allowing them to go up damage barriers with the Jug. 

 

That concludes this rant from a frustrated mobile player. What do you hope to see going forward in 2025? 

[paul16135 122]

I hope to see more bots in 2025, they have a better game play ethic.

[Xsader 37]

On 12/13/2024 at 3:18 AM, Potdindy said:

I may be in tiny minority but I love games with bots in them. The bots play so casually it makes the whole game more relaxing. Rather than getting spawn killed, bots just drive around and shoot. The ai is decent too. Id not complain if their protection was increased a bit more to make them more competitive but for now theyre an awesome addition! A lot of human players are worse than bots anyway

Now, this is the type of sarcasm I like 

[True-Legend 1]

 I don't decide what should be changed and what shouldn't in this thread, but we can post ideas and hopefully they will be considered at the discussion level.

We heard that a new (actually old) version of Tanki Classic is coming out,Or there, what would you see in that game or now here in Tanki Online?

[NikmanGT 4,392]

On 12/22/2024 at 3:54 PM, True-Legend said:

 

Topic Merged

[Maf 32,314]

On 12/22/2024 at 2:24 PM, True-Legend said:

 I don't decide what should be changed and what shouldn't in this thread, but we can post ideas and hopefully they will be considered at the discussion level.

We heard that a new (actually old) version of Tanki Classic is coming out,Or there, what would you see in that game or now here in Tanki Online?

Developers are actively looking for suggestions for features players want to see in Tanki Classic. You're welcome to share your ideas, but please submit one specific idea (either for Tanki Online or TankI Classic) when you create a new topic.

This may help: 

Thanks!

 

[Jeers4U 683]

On 12/23/2024 at 5:53 AM, Maf said:

Developers are actively looking for suggestions for features players want to see in Tanki Classic.

Will this game be 'for profit'?

Will there be lame bots?

Is the matchmaking going to be just as terrible as it is in this version of the game?

 

And really... are we expecting them to listen to anything we say when the last several years of pleas (and dwindling player base) haven't prompted them to listen here?

Edited December 29, 2024 by Jeers4U

[LambSauce 1,893]

On 12/29/2024 at 2:07 AM, Jeers4U said:

Will this game be 'for profit'?

Will there be lame bots?

Is the matchmaking going to be just as terrible as it is in this version of the game?

 

And really... are we expecting them to listen to anything we say when the last several years of pleas (and dwindling player base) haven't prompted them to listen here?

None of this is happening ... did you even watch the interview with Taspens and Hazel?

[Jeers4U 683]

On 12/28/2024 at 9:22 PM, LambSauce said:

None of this is happening ... did you even watch the interview with Taspens and Hazel?

Lol.

Because what they say is etched in stone, lol.

I don't watch their... self indulgent... videos.

I tried watching one but it went on forever, was rambling, and almost made me fall asleep twice.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Jeers4U
none of this happened in the original too. until it did.

[Maf 32,314]

On 12/29/2024 at 6:28 AM, Jeers4U said:

Lol.

Because what they say is etched in stone, lol.

I don't watch their... self indulgent... videos.

I tried watching one but it went on forever, was rambling, and almost made me fall asleep twice.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve in this conversation.

You say that Tanki Classic will be lame and P2W. We say that devs promise it won't be. You say that you don't believe anything devs say. So if you don't believe official sources, then what is there to discuss?

You can either believe us when we say that devs are collecting suggestions and share your thoughts on what you want to see in Tanki Classic, or you can not believe us, in which case just don't talk about, wait for TC to be released, and THEN complain about how lame and P2W it is, assuming your prediction is correct about that.

[Jeers4U 683]

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

You say that Tanki Classic will be lame and P2W.

Not sure I can find the actual statement where I say it will be lame. Do I think it will be lame? If the devs/owners approach classic with the exact same mindset as they did with the current version of tanki, then yes, it will be lame. If it's a pet-project of the devs with no links to monetization or profit or revenue--and just for pure game enjoyment-- then I believe it will actually be... a good start. And I'll be the first in line to play.

History of their involvement with this game, however, suggests the former and not the latter.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

We say that devs promise it won't be.

And I say that the devs have promised a lot of things that have turned out to be not true.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

You say that you don't believe anything devs say. So if you don't believe official sources, then what is there to discuss?

And do you believe everything the devs tell you?  In that case, what is there to discuss from YOUR standpoint? Why even reply to me?

Why not just say 'every conversation in this forum is moot, so I shall not engage, because the devs tell the truth 100% of the time and are always right'...?

 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

You can either believe us when we say that devs are collecting suggestions

Oh, I believe they ARE collecting suggestions.

But I also believe that is ALL they are doing: collecting. Not listening. Just collecting.

Remember the survey from a couple of years ago...? Did anything change for the better (from the players viewpoint)?

Did the players who responded to the survey in this very thread change their vote from 'on edge' (43%) or 'hate it' (27%) to 'love it' (9%) and/or 'satisfied' (21%)?

No. They did not.

 

Because tanki was just collecting.

I have literally a decade of evidence that they only listen to their owners.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve in this conversation.

And I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with your reply.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:18 AM, Maf said:

 just don't talk about, wait for TC to be released, and THEN complain

As far as I can tell, I'm actually following exactly what the title of the thread is. I'm giving my opinion.

 

 

Again, I'm not responsible if that hurts anyone's feels for having a contrary opinion to something that doesn't exist yet.

 

If you'd rather me not give my opinion, you are always free to block me, ban me, or scroll right on past.

Or--as forum moderator--you have the power to  re-title the thread: "What is your opinion about the current state of tanki online?--except jeers".

Your choice, my dude.

 

Since we both like quotes, here's one that i think might apply to the dev's course of action regarding this business.

"It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission"

 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Jeers4U

[iplayatankonline 102]

No idea what these guys were thinking when they put in a 3 min stun gun for bots in game. They wanted to ruin the holiday fun? This game is ruined constantly. You wait for months to get one of the goodies in an epic container but never do. This game used to be fun to grind... now its just so easy to leave it. Come and go. No incentive to play it at all. Some good things... no time delay on upgrades. You can instantly go from one level to next.  But im already fully upgraded as are many others so who cares. No players. You go into game with 4 bots and 4players. and need to score in assault... but players are campers and bots are rare to score but I think I have seen it? It's not really a good thing to kick a company when they are clearly down... but are we saying that no one in the dev team has any good ideas how to turn this game around? Please never put in a 12 second stun gun inthe game ever again. What a ridiculous holiday. Have millions of crystals. I should be able to buy any red container I want for like 250k crystals. No augment is worth waiting around for 6 months to unlock. This whole .0001245% to get a good turret augment. How bout I just not play the game? The little questionnaire a while back is what would i like for events. An event I pay for to get something i know is going to be given, or a free event with nothing good as rewarded. Are they that daft? I no longer want either, I just won't play. Give me the option to play something participate inthe game and get a reward of my choice in the red option. Once a month guaranteed I want any one thing in this game to keep me interested or I go elsewhere where the attempt to keep my time is a little bit more evident. 

 

Try harder tanki. I've seen events here where there is fun, and theres been time in past where its done. But if all this is becoming is a game with no player base cash grabbing and lost interest by the devs... well

[Snafu 139]

On 12/29/2024 at 2:07 PM, iplayatankonline said:

No idea what these guys were thinking when they put in a 3 min stun gun for bots in game.

Was wondering that too. You get hit by a stun snowball and its game over. You are a sitting duck for a swarm of bots. Just sit there, can do nothing while they destroy you. One of dumbest ideas I've seen in this game. Amd I've seen a lot!

[paul16135 122]

I think the one button only phone users are back.

[POWER-OF-ONE 186]

@TheCongoSpider I gave you a "THANKS" for the effort you put into your obviously long thought out post, which had a lot of good points by the way.

I do not however have any sympathy for mobile players. You lot are the reason that flying hacks are in the game, or at least the reason they are still here.

This does not mean I dislike you personally as a player (I have only ever met you in battle once in all these years) or forum poster, quite the opposite.

As for 2024: It was like most previous years in TO, full of obnoxious, OP updates aimed solely at the non brain functioning buyers.

2025 will be no different and TO will continue to degrade into a chaotic, augment infested mess and prices will continue to go up and the devs will continue to ignore the player base and any and all requests to fix the game across it's entirety.

Ah yes, I almost forgot: Players will STILL complain about events but WILL still engage in them, making their complaints null and void.

Happy 2025 everyone

Seriously you just can't make this up. 

Edited January 7 by NikmanGT
Kindly refrain from making off-topic statements

[POWER-OF-ONE 186]

On 12/29/2024 at 8:18 AM, Maf said:

We say that devs promise it won't be.

Seriously-promise like balance is a very loose term when prompting anything the devs say.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 8:18 AM, Maf said:

assuming your prediction is correct about that

Well I have been predicting the colossal decline in TO for years and I have yet to be proven wrong.

This of course is from a players perspective (as it should be) and not from the devs, who see improvement based solely on profit.

On 12/29/2024 at 2:15 PM, Jeers4U said:

History of their involvement with this game, however, suggests the former and not the latter

So very true.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 2:15 PM, Jeers4U said:

And do you believe everything the devs tell you?  In that case, what is there to discuss from YOUR standpoint? Why even reply to me?

Why not just say 'every conversation in this forum is moot, so I shall not engage, because the devs tell the truth 100% of the time and are always right'...?

Nice counter.

 

On 12/29/2024 at 2:15 PM, Jeers4U said:

And I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with your reply.

I no exactly what he is trying to achieve.

He's playing devils advocate, (whether he realises it or not) without actually doing so. Hope that makes sense to everyone.

Most of the mods are pro dev, It's in their interest to be like that.

On 12/29/2024 at 2:15 PM, Jeers4U said:

"It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission"

I had to google that. The late Rear admiral Grace Hopper.

I think the phrase that sums up TO would more likely be:- "WE DO WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE WE CAN" (and because all buyers are conditioned sheep) Seems about right.  

[Jeers4U 683]

Just played an assault match where no one picked up a flag for the first FOUR MINUTES of the game.

Hahahahahaha!!

Zero reason to participate in the mission.

Edited January 8 by Jeers4U

[paul16135 122]

Just played a jug battle.

We had a full team, they had 2 people....

No one else joined, not even bots.  I recorded it, but it's 150mb. If you know a way that I can send a file that big let me know.

Is this one of the reasons why people are leaving?

Refund me please.  I don't like wasting money.

[Potdindy 866]

On 1/8/2025 at 3:04 PM, Jeers4U said:

Just played an assault match where no one picked up a flag for the first FOUR MINUTES of the game.

Hahahahahaha!!

Zero reason to participate in the mission.

Some of this might just be player preference. I enjoy fighting tanks. If I can cap a point or flag I will but my main fun comes from fighting. Assault is a weird mode where one team is essentially camping and the other team suicides in

Edited January 16 by Potdindy

[Venerable 2,970]

On 1/14/2025 at 6:49 AM, paul16135 said:

Just played a jug battle.

We had a full team, they had 2 people....

No one else joined, not even bots.  I recorded it, but it's 150mb. If you know a way that I can send a file that big let me know.

Is this one of the reasons why people are leaving?

Refund me please.  I don't like wasting money.

You can upload it to Vimeo or YouTube (keep it "unlisted" so that anyone with the link can view it) and share the link.

Write an email to help@tankionline.com regarding this matchmaking issue and your refund request. Do note that your account will be permanently blocked after the refund.

Edited January 15 by Venerable
preposition

[Jeers4U 683]

On 1/14/2025 at 3:51 AM, Venerable said:

Write an email to help@tankionline.com regarding this matchmaking issue

lol

[paul16135 122]

No more than 2 players loaded on enemy team video JUG +1

 

Please don't ban me, the video is real.

Edited January 16 by paul16135

[Jeers4U 683]

On 1/15/2025 at 12:39 PM, paul16135 said:

No more than 2 players loaded on enemy team video JUG +1

 

Please don't ban me, the video is real.

That's very interesting. I wonder why that happened.

[paul16135 122]

The bots were playing another game?

Edited January 16 by paul16135

[Jeers4U 683]

On 1/16/2025 at 2:41 PM, paul16135 said:

The bots were playing another game?

Even the bots are leaving tanki...