Complaint Book

[Panzer_Marsch 7]

Come on Devs, I'm loosing interest in a game that crashes after a couple of mins, you want me to spend money, then give me a reliable platform.

[Gabe2607 216]

On 2/17/2024 at 6:15 AM, cx2014 said:

I am not a buyer and my main account garage is full upgraded since months ago!

 

And in 2 other accounts I have all Hulls, Turrets  and 4 main Drones (Brutus, Defender, Booster, Trickster) full upgraded also!

And I am not a human being. I have a sledge with 9 reindeers.

On 2/21/2024 at 3:49 PM, Panzer_Marsch said:

Come on Devs, I'm loosing interest in a game that crashes after a couple of mins, you want me to spend money, then give me a reliable platform.

Finally someone not trying to disguise as a f2p.

[PirateSpider 1,532]

On 2/21/2024 at 12:49 PM, Panzer_Marsch said:

Come on Devs, I'm loosing interest in a game that crashes after a couple of mins, you want me to spend money, then give me a reliable platform.

Spend your money elsewhere. Somewhere that actually deserves it. That's what I've been doing these past 2 months.

[Jeers4U 745]

Just playing a game and I randomly 'self destructed' while driving.

I didn't press self destruct, nor did I flip upside down, nor are my settings on 'auto self destruct'.

 

No countdown prior to destruction, I was behind a wall and there was no fire from an enemy tank.

 

Upon re-spawn, I could not obtain any supplies crate on the ground.

Pretty suspicious tank behaviors.

So glad I don't pay for this game.

[ammazzafurbi 37]

After the restart you can't log in, it continues to load and doesn't go forward. Before, however, strange things happened to tanks that managed to hit even if you were sheltered behind a wall. It would be better to put an end to this and fix it once and for all.

Edited February 23, 2024 by ammazzafurbi

[samitakadoum 11]

I can't enter the game. It keeps loading 

[HEAVYWEAPONMOBILE_1 11]

On 2/22/2024 at 8:43 PM, samitakadoum said:

I can't enter the game. It keeps loading 

Me too.

[demon09 91]

Even if they have no solution, Tanki is at least aware that the match-making is completely broken right? When 1000 GS players have to play against 5000-7000 GS players it's impossible to have a fun and the gameplay is broken. No new players will wanna stick around when that's how it is.

[Blutaar 1,921]

On 2/23/2024 at 8:23 AM, demon09 said:

Even if they have no solution, Tanki is at least aware that the match-making is completely broken right? When 1000 GS players have to play against 5000-7000 GS players it's impossible to have a fun and the gameplay is broken. No new players will wanna stick around when that's how it is.

Matchmaking itself is designed so that it sometimes puts together teams with varying gear scores. This is done to make teams somewhat less balanced and to ensure a battle is guaranteed to result in a win for one of the two teams involved. Having battles with players that have the exact same GS (or within the same range) everytime will cause boredom because all battles will just be the same. It's a weird, yet logical, reason. But it is the truth. 

That aside, matchmaking sometimes creates weird GS mixtures when generating teams. Last weekend I was in a team with a player that had 2000 GS. This has happened only a handful of times, so I will just asume these kind of occurences are rare. Plus, these low-levelled players often leave the battle soon after joining. Wanna know, how frequently does it happen that you encounter GS differences from 1000 to 5000 in battle?

[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/23/2024 at 8:18 AM, Blutaar said:

Matchmaking itself is designed so that it sometimes puts together teams with varying gear scores.

Not sometimes, most times. The party line used to be that there weren't enough players of the same GS to put into a game, but we know that not entirely true (today). [edited: there aren't a ton of players left, but that's not the entire reason for the varying GS]

 

On 2/23/2024 at 8:18 AM, Blutaar said:

This is done to make teams somewhat less balanced and to ensure a battle is guaranteed to result in a win for one of the two teams involved.

Less balanced, yes. To guarantee a win... not so much. It's designed this way to put you under biological stress while you sit there on your phone or computer.

It's designed to be played at a frantic pace (why there are so many extra tanks in any given arena, +drugs, +augs, +dropped supplies)--especially if you are on the team with the lower gear scores. You aren't supposed to think, you are supposed to react. Activate supplies (drugs) as quickly as possible. Your stress goes up,  your 'flight or flight' response is activated, you get an adrenaline surge.

It's the adrenaline surge that is the addictive part of the game which the developers WANT you to have. It's addictive. And it makes you want to keep playing to activate that biological response. Whichever team wins or loses is incidental.

 

Gamblers have a similar response when playing slot machines. It isn't winning that keeps them coming back. It's the adrenaline rush of the fear of losing when they pull the slot machines' arm. That's the addiction. It's biology.

 

On 2/23/2024 at 8:18 AM, Blutaar said:

Having battles with players that have the exact same GS (or within the same range) everytime will cause boredom because all battles will just be the same. It's a weird, yet logical, reason. But it is the truth.

It may cause boredom for some players because when your adrenaline response isn't activated, you are less likely to become addicted to the game.

You are able to think more. Plan more. Interact more. Eat a grilled cheese sandwich while playing. This is what they don't want.

 

On 2/23/2024 at 8:18 AM, Blutaar said:

Wanna know, how frequently does it happen that you encounter GS differences from 1000 to 5000 in battle?

I would assume that there is an algorithm for an optimal distribution of gear scores that will entice you to stay and play.

Probably also why the gear scores are color-coded--you just glace at the screen when the game begins, don't look too much into the numbers, and if there are several GS that are the same color as your GS, you stay...

 

And I mean, maybe some of those other accounts are 'placeholders' until a non-bot-player arrives? Who knows...?

 

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2024 by Jeers4U

[demon09 91]

On 2/23/2024 at 2:18 PM, Blutaar said:

Matchmaking itself is designed so that it sometimes puts together teams with varying gear scores. This is done to make teams somewhat less balanced and to ensure a battle is guaranteed to result in a win for one of the two teams involved. Having battles with players that have the exact same GS (or within the same range) everytime will cause boredom because all battles will just be the same. It's a weird, yet logical, reason. But it is the truth. 

That aside, matchmaking sometimes creates weird GS mixtures when generating teams. Last weekend I was in a team with a player that had 2000 GS. This has happened only a handful of times, so I will just asume these kind of occurences are rare. Plus, these low-levelled players often leave the battle soon after joining. Wanna know, how frequently does it happen that you encounter GS differences from 1000 to 5000 in battle?

I don't know, quite often, maybe every 2nd or 3rd match? Even if the differences in GS are usually less they're still too big IMO. I heard they have become bigger lately because Tanki has lost a lot of players.

In one of my accounts I have 1500 GS and I almost always feel like I get obliterated in battles because most enemies have a 3000-5000 GS, with a few in the team sometimes having 5000-9999 GS, which is absurb. I feel like I can't do anything in these games because I constantly die after a moment of spawning.

Rarely do I get a match that feels fun and fair, with 0-3000 GS players. Those matches can be fun even of a few enemies have a higher GS than that, because you dont battle against them too often in the match.

[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/23/2024 at 11:19 AM, demon09 said:

 Even if the differences in GS are usually less they're still too big IMO. I heard they have become bigger lately because Tanki has lost a lot of players.

 

Imagine being Mr. 933 and being put into this match, lol.

And it's because of this MatchFaking that I leave... probably 5x as many games as I stay in.

 

 

 

 

This is probably more accurate:

713-5833

 

And halfway through the game, they supplemented the other team with 2x 6ks in this one.

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2024 by Jeers4U

[Hypersomnia 1,876]

On 2/23/2024 at 8:16 PM, Jeers4U said:

Imagine being Mr. 933 and being put into this match, lol.

And it's because of this MatchFaking that I leave... probably 5x as many games as I stay in.

 

I love when people use these kind of examples to show how broken Methmaking is lol

The guy is 4 cube rank being matched with ranks barely above him (except the brigadier). Everyone is at 3-5k GS. Is this MM being unfair or Mr. 933 purposely being a low rank mult or completely having no idea how to play the game? (I met many low ranks and they would realise that upgrading 1-2 combos and ignoring others is a good idea). Even hypothetical "perfect MM" won't fix the fact that there are mults or people with room temp IQ. 

This also applies to people being legend rank with 3k GS and being used as "oh no look how bad MM is!!" example meanwhile they're just multing. 

Oh before you say 933 GS at WO4 is normal I have 5k GS at WO3 after ONLY upgrading 1 combo and being FREE TO PLAY. Now we see others here with 3-5k GS which would make sense considering low ranks like to have 1-2 combos that they upgrade instead of just 1 always like OGs.

 

MM has Hazelion problems everywhere but even the perfect MM fix won't help people refusing to play the game like intended 

[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/23/2024 at 1:34 PM, Kimura said:

I love when people use these kind of examples to show how broken Methmaking is lol

The guy is 4 cube rank being matched with ranks barely above him (except the brigadier). Everyone is at 3-5k GS. Is this MM being unfair or Mr. 933 purposely being a low rank mult or completely having no idea how to play the game?

And your singling out 1 example doesn't disprove that it isn't broken.

 

Odd that Mr. 933 is the one you choose to focus on as to why MF isn't broken. And completely ignore the 8.7k--which is the best example of why it is.

And the subsequent addition of 2x 6ks in the very next match halfway through the game.

 

Not sure if Mr. 933's 'knowledge of the game' is what is being called into question here.

Why does he have to be 'purposefully' keeping his rank low?

Could he not be saving up his crystals for something specific?

Could he not be learning how to use a new turret or hull?

I mean, is it unrealistic to expect someone to try out a new turret at some point, but yet punish him by putting him in matches like the one above?

 

Either way, Mr. 933 left the game, but Mr 8.7k did not.

Guess who wound up having the most kills and least deaths--by far...?

 

On 2/23/2024 at 1:34 PM, Kimura said:

This also applies to people being legend rank with 3k GS and being used as "oh no look how bad MM is!!" example meanwhile they're just multing.

The easy fix for what you are describing is to not allow tank changes after the game starts...

 

Here's another.

I don't think Mr. 463 is multing. So, your theory of multing is moot.

Same with Mr. 783.

But 2x 6ks added after the game has already started proves it's broken more than it isn't broken.

And no, I didn't stay in this game either.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2024 by Jeers4U

[Gabe2607 216]

On 2/23/2024 at 1:34 PM, Kimura said:

... even the perfect MM fix won't help people refusing to play the game like intended 

... refusing to PAY the game like intended (fixed it).

According to the defenders of this game, most players read, study, observe and get a degree on How to play properly Tanki Online. They are all super smart knowing "The Manual".

Then, in the battle, all that intelligence is nowhere to be seen. Same thing in the Forum, Battle Chats or video comments.

A normal player signs in and starts to play. It won't take long before the Free Player will have to decide between paying for a bunch of containers to reduce the distance with the others or give up. The ones that decided to stay in the game will notice that they got better, but not enough yet. So... more $$$ containers.  

Once the garage is getting full, and $$$ are not that much required anymore, those same players will come to the Forum saying they are not paying (missing the word "anymore") and teaching "The Manual".

PS.: their Manual is - play Missions and Events, which are a complete tragedy if you do not have a full garage. So their Manual starts from the last chapter of the book, missing everything before. And "buy only at -50%!", as if that 20% saving in crystals would bring you more than one or two pieces of equipment in a couple of years.

[Hypersomnia 1,876]

On 2/24/2024 at 2:48 AM, Gabe2607 said:

refusing to PAY the game like intended (fixed it).

yeah I guess average player doesn't have enough crystals from battles/conts to obtain mk2 at WO ranks and stay above 1k GS... This game truly fell off

99% of players at WO have the same 3-5k GS same for other ranks they all have GS that is nearly the same. For legends its 7k-9999. I didn't pay for many years and reached legend rank F2P without any crying about how unbalanced MM is or anything. My first acc btw and I knew nothing about the game I just saw M3 = cool.

On 2/24/2024 at 2:48 AM, Gabe2607 said:

According to the defenders of this game, most players read, study, observe and get a degree on How to play properly Tanki Online. They are all super smart knowing "The Manual".

Oh are you telling me that if I wanted to know how to PROPERLY PLAY A GAME IT WILL BE EASIER TO PLAY? Who would've thought! man you're a smart gentleman.

While waiting for battles in chat I tell new players 2-3 things pure basics and it's enough for them. The game is not that complicated for them for some reason.

On 2/24/2024 at 2:48 AM, Gabe2607 said:

Then, in the battle, all that intelligence is nowhere to be seen.

oh wait so youre the guy talking about how good you are at this game because in PRO battles ur a god? Well if youre actually good at the game MM would not be a problem. I am an ACTUAL pro and I get 80 kills in DM with uranium striker which is F2P augment as far as I know. Oh don't use hyperion use Brutus now you'd still get 50+ kills. Stop living in a fantasy.

 

On 2/24/2024 at 2:48 AM, Gabe2607 said:

A normal player signs in and starts to play. It won't take long before the Free Player will have to decide between paying for a bunch of containers to reduce the distance with the others or give up

My friend started playing the game and he didn't pay a cent. Just rarely asked for which combo to buy or if this augment is good or not. He's now legend 3 with 4 Mk8 combos and maxed Brutus and Crisis. reminding you HE DIDN'T PAY A CENT nor he got lucky with containers

 

On 2/23/2024 at 8:54 PM, Jeers4U said:

I don't think Mr. 463 is multing. So, your theory of multing is moot.

Same with Mr. 783.

average GS for their rank is like 2-3k. If you're testing a new combo that is weaker than your main ones you should expect worse results. logic. I told you that MM is indeed broken but using "oh look a legend with 2k GS!!! MM IS BROKEN!!!!" examples are stupid. 

[Blutaar 1,921]

On 2/23/2024 at 5:11 PM, Jeers4U said:

 

That is quite an in-depth explanation. I simply stated what Opex said few months back

[PirateSpider 1,532]

On 2/23/2024 at 10:54 AM, Jeers4U said:

Odd that Mr. 933 is the one you choose to focus on as to why MF isn't broken. And completely ignore the 8.7k--which is the best example of why it is.

The 8.7k is a true example of MisMatchMaking, where the system doesn't do its job properly.

 

Mr. 933 is the real definition of your favorite word "MatchFaking" or in some cases "MatchSabotaging" where they have a ridiculously low GS for their rank, they post proof and complain about it not realizing that they're being part of the problem.

[Gabe2607 216]

On 2/24/2024 at 2:19 AM, Kimura said:

yeah I guess average player doesn't have enough crystals from battles/conts to obtain mk2 at WO ranks and stay above 1k GS... This game truly fell off

99% of players at WO have the same 3-5k GS same for other ranks they all have GS that is nearly the same. For legends its 7k-9999. I didn't pay for many years and reached legend rank F2P without any crying about how unbalanced MM is or anything. My first acc btw and I knew nothing about the game I just saw M3 = cool.

Oh are you telling me that if I wanted to know how to PROPERLY PLAY A GAME IT WILL BE EASIER TO PLAY? Who would've thought! man you're a smart gentleman.

While waiting for battles in chat I tell new players 2-3 things pure basics and it's enough for them. The game is not that complicated for them for some reason.

oh wait so youre the guy talking about how good you are at this game because in PRO battles ur a god? Well if youre actually good at the game MM would not be a problem. I am an ACTUAL pro and I get 80 kills in DM with uranium striker which is F2P augment as far as I know. Oh don't use hyperion use Brutus now you'd still get 50+ kills. Stop living in a fantasy.

 

My friend started playing the game and he didn't pay a cent. Just rarely asked for which combo to buy or if this augment is good or not. He's now legend 3 with 4 Mk8 combos and maxed Brutus and Crisis. reminding you HE DIDN'T PAY A CENT nor he got lucky with containers

 

average GS for their rank is like 2-3k. If you're testing a new combo that is weaker than your main ones you should expect worse results. logic. I told you that MM is indeed broken but using "oh look a legend with 2k GS!!! MM IS BROKEN!!!!" examples are stupid. 

"I didn't pay for many years" = Free players NEVER pay.

"how to properly play a game" = Sure, every kid study your "Manual" for three months before their first battle. 

"you're a smart gentleman" = Gentleman no.

"I tell 2-3 things in chat" = Tanki Master explaining "the Manual" in few seconds and all smart kids graduating within a minute.

"youare" = the game is not complicated, but grammar seems to be.

"if you are good in Pro, you are good in MM" = there is something missing called Equipment.

"I am an actual PRO" = You used to play PRO battles and that is not what I remember. 

"uranium striker is F2P" = I am legend 31 and do not have neither striker nor uranium. Probably you can mention other 4 turrets and 4 augments and I will reply the same way.

"my friend didn't pay a cent. Just asked which combo to buy or if this augment is good" = F2Ps do not BUY combos and do not have augments to choose from.

The Magical Land of Oz.

 

[Dopamine 2,171]

On 2/23/2024 at 7:54 PM, Jeers4U said:

I don't think Mr. 463 is multing. So, your theory of multing is moot.

Same with Mr. 783.

I don't want to be judgemental, but here is one of my alt accounts where I have higher GS than basically everyone in the battle, with vampire isida and immu on the hull. 0 cents spent.

I have premium because I have logged in after a year or so of inactivity.
Granted, this isnt an ideal combo, but it's just to prove a point I guess. I also have some better combos there at about 3 - 4k GS.

I have another alt at the rank of a lieutenant and I never seemed to do too bad there either.

To be clear, I don't blame anyone for having a bad garage at a given rank, of course many people don't care much and spend crystal on random stuff instead of studying the options they have to make the most efficient decisions. That is completely fine, it is just and only a game.
But on the other I would like to make my argument that the game isn't nearly as grim and p2w as some players make it to be, if you are experienced and strategize their play.

[Gabe2607 216]

On 2/24/2024 at 7:10 PM, Dopamine said:

I don't want to be judgemental, but here is one of my alt accounts where I have higher GS than basically everyone in the battle, with vampire isida and immu on the hull. 0 cents spent.

I have premium because I have logged in after a year or so of inactivity.
Granted, this isnt an ideal combo, but it's just to prove a point I guess. I also have some better combos there at about 3 - 4k GS.

I have another alt at the rank of a lieutenant and I never seemed to do too bad there either.

To be clear, I don't blame anyone for having a bad garage at a given rank, of course many people don't care much and spend crystal on random stuff instead of studying the options they have to make the most efficient decisions. That is completely fine, it is just and only a game.
But on the other I would like to make my argument that the game isn't nearly as grim and p2w as some players make it to be, if you are experienced and strategize their play.

A Sergeant Major with 4 protections, including Armadillo, Vampire augment and whatever augment is on Ares... With more than half million crystals not used... Guess somehow the game has to retribute its "workers"... Not sure what I would have to be blamed for if, at Legend 31, I do not have any of that!

"if you are experienced and strategize": considering that most players have a pretty good garage, this would mean that most players are experienced and pretty clever. Then they show up in the battle and... it is the opposite. How do you explain it? All great economy minds unable to drive a tank. Pressing 1234 rather than picking up a box. Turning the tank rather than the turret. 

The reality is that everyone is rushing to BUY containers=equipment and none goes through the process of learning skills. 

[Hypersomnia 1,876]

On 2/25/2024 at 1:34 AM, Gabe2607 said:

"I didn't pay for many years" = Free players NEVER pay.

"how to properly play a game" = Sure, every kid study your "Manual" for three months before their first battle. 

"you're a smart gentleman" = Gentleman no.

"I tell 2-3 things in chat" = Tanki Master explaining "the Manual" in few seconds and all smart kids graduating within a minute.

"youare" = the game is not complicated, but grammar seems to be.

"if you are good in Pro, you are good in MM" = there is something missing called Equipment.

"I am an actual PRO" = You used to play PRO battles and that is not what I remember. 

"uranium striker is F2P" = I am legend 31 and do not have neither striker nor uranium. Probably you can mention other 4 turrets and 4 augments and I will reply the same way.

"my friend didn't pay a cent. Just asked which combo to buy or if this augment is good" = F2Ps do not BUY combos and do not have augments to choose from.

The Magical Land of Oz.

 

lol my tanki gimmick involves bad grammar and starting flame wars. This one was not even intentional but i like it.

all i have to say is stop raging and actually play the game. nobody is complaining besides you two. I played Poly CP XP/BP for years if you rly want to know. your graduation score is a big ol F if i was your teacher. our little gentleman  is not a nice one (

On 2/25/2024 at 2:10 AM, Dopamine said:

I don't want to be judgemental, but here is one of my alt accounts where I have higher GS than basically everyone in the battle, with vampire isida and immu on the hull. 0 cents spent.

when a mod agrees with me it's over lol

 

On 2/25/2024 at 5:38 AM, Gabe2607 said:

A Sergeant Major with 4 protections, including Armadillo, Vampire augment and whatever augment is on Ares...

"whatever augment is on Ares" aren't you legend 31? i'd expect a player with this rank to know one of the most common immunities in this game. I mean if you refuse to even teach yourself on what ur using then you raging how tanki is unfair makes sense. I should be surprised you even know the name of the hull hes using.

 

On 2/25/2024 at 5:38 AM, Gabe2607 said:

The reality is that everyone is rushing to BUY containers=equipment and none goes through the process of learning skills. 

the reality is that people look deeper into the games theyre playing. look in chat and you'll likely see a low rank asking some random question and big rank answering him said question. like i said my F2P friend who didn't spend a cent has MAXED crisis and 2 Mk8 combos at Legend 3 and is not struggling in MM at all. he must be an anomaly then. And if you're crying about me turning into the Boogeyman called Pay to Play Player then i'll reveal some of my lore. On this account I bought challenge passes for crystals and saved crystals for xmas sales. I had 1 million cry at field marshal and had Mk5 gauss and viking which made me have 4,9k GS and I didn't struggle in MM at all. I didn't have broken augments nothing. so you crying is literally just a skill issue.

 

as much as i'd love to make you rage more sadly i don't have more time to waste.

[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/24/2024 at 7:10 PM, Dopamine said:

I don't want to be judgemental, but here is one of my alt accounts where I have higher GS than basically everyone in the battle, with vampire isida and immu on the hull. 0 cents spent.

I have premium because I have logged in after a year or so of inactivity.
Granted, this isnt an ideal combo, but it's just to prove a point I guess. I also have some better combos there at about 3 - 4k GS.

I have another alt at the rank of a lieutenant and I never seemed to do too bad there either.

To be clear, I don't blame anyone for having a bad garage at a given rank, of course many people don't care much and spend crystal on random stuff instead of studying the options they have to make the most efficient decisions. That is completely fine, it is just and only a game.
But on the other I would like to make my argument that the game isn't nearly as grim and p2w as some players make it to be, if you are experienced and strategize their play.

 

Not sure your tank is the norm, LOL. Like, not even close.

Your nukes, supplies, crystals, tankoins... almost everything you have is higher than normal. And it looks like you've spent a ton already on your tank.

 

Here's one of my randoms that is close in rank to yours.

This account doesn't even have access to all the turrets, hulls, or protections yet, lol!

But clearly the playing field would not be level if we met in battle.

 

 

And to be honest, with your GS, upgrades, crystals, and supplies you have... you shouldn't even be CLOSE to the highest GS in ANY match you play.

MatchFaking should be putting you in with the 6-8k tanks--like it does for me.

[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/25/2024 at 2:00 AM, Kimura said:

nobody is complaining besides you two.

Maybe verbalizing it here.

But I cannot tell you how completely incorrect and wrong you are if you think we are the only 2 that feel this way.

As I have instructed you before. Spend some time in the chat and you'll see the complaints.

 

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Can we be done with that now?

 

 

Edited February 25, 2024 by Jeers4U
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[Jeers4U 745]

On 2/25/2024 at 2:00 AM, Kimura said:

 so you crying is literally just a skill issue.

 

as much as i'd love to make you rage more sadly i don't have more time to waste.

...Is this not insulting...?