Low Frame Rates

[panzer-runner 2]

panzer-runner wrote:Here is a new bug I just noticed. Last night there was tons of lag making the games unplayable, and according to Mikhail Gofman the developers were working on fixes for 2 known bugs. After they were applied, I noticed I could log into a game, and the lag problems seemed minimal or gone, but the usually great framerate was horrible. I was using Firefox and all games had this now, framerates between 7-12 fps vs the usual 20-30 fps. In a game others said their frame rates were fine. I tried using Safari and it was better.

Here is what I found:

 

Using Firefox for Mac, all framerates were 7-12 fps.

Using Safari for Mac, all framerates were 20-30 fps.

 

Before last night I only used Firefox for Mac and it was always 20-30 fps

 

My Details:

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Flash plug-in : Version 10.0.45.2

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6.2

Safari OS X 10.5; Version 4.0.4 (5531.21.10)

 

Well.. hmm :? :?

 

This is not getting better, nor have I heard anything from support. I have updated everything, and its the same, Firefox for Mac has low framerates. 7-9 fps is not playable and it used to be fine. Safari works, but most people use Firefox. Does anyone else have a Mac or this problem? Is support aware of this or what? While a new webpage design might look nice, a playable game would be better I think.

 

While no one expects things to get fixed instantly, after days of this and sending a PM to support, I have heard nothing back at all.

[mehrdadsanjabi 7]

Flash player 10.1 beta 3 is already out, which is pretty faster.

 

Alternativa7, a whole 3D engine was kinda developed for this game, and it has the fastest frame rate and is the most optimized engine among any others. Actually i believe they create these games to show off their great engine. You can make sure the Frame rate couldn't be better than this due to flash player restrictions. But i am hopeful that adobe will soon release a real hardware accelerated flash player in the future.

[panzer-runner 2]

Flash player 10.1 beta 3 is already out, which is pretty faster.

 

Alternativa7, a whole 3D engine was kinda developed for this game, and it has the fastest frame rate and is the most optimized engine among any others. Actually i believe they create these games to show off their great work. You can make sure the Frame rate couldn't be better than this due to flash player restrictions. But i am hopeful that adobe will soon release a real hardware accelerated flash player in the future.

Look, Mehdadoo, you don't even read my posts, or you don't understand english. I know your english is not so good, so I'll say this ......s l o w l y.

 

I am talking about what seems like a BUG. Get it? Please try reading my post again until you understand. This happened when the lag "fixes" were applied or whatever a few days ago...

 

The frame rates USED TO BE FINE, always fine, in fact, before the last fixes were applied, they were 20-30 fps

 

I am not making this stuff up. I would think you and the developers would want to know about problems so they can be looked at and fixed!

 

1) Firefox for Mac WAS 20-30 FPS,----------> NOW its 7-9 FPS

2) Safari for Mac WAS 20-30 FPS, ----------> now it's still 20-30 FPS

3) Chrome for Mac WAS 20-30 FPS, ---------> now it's still 20-30 FPS

 

See the patten? It has a problem with MAC Firefox somehow.

 

Do you have a Macbook Pro with OSX to test with?... if so try playing using the latest Firefox, and latest Flash and help instead of spouting off about how good everything is.

 

Also I am glad to see a developer such as your self so uneducated about Flash, by the way. Flash 10.1 has hardware acceleration for video h.264 and GPU usage.

 

 

Flash Player 10.1 hardware acceleration for video and graphics

 

With the release of the Adobe Flash Player 10.1 public prerelease, designers and developers can provide rich media experiences on the web that are accessible to more screens than ever before. The key features include support for new hardware acceleration that improves graphics performance and reduces power consumption on desktop computers and a range of mobile devices supported under the Open Screen Project.

 

In this article we describe these new hardware acceleration capabilities, which fall into two categories: H.264 video hardware decoding on supported desktop and mobile devices and hardware (GPU) graphics rendering on supported mobile devices. We also provide tips and best practices to produce content that takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in Flash Player 10.1.

 

That can be found at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer10.1_hardware_acceleration.html

 

That news is like 6 months old.

Don't get me wrong, Alternativa7 has developed a very nice flash based game engine, and I would like to see the problems worked out.

 

Oh, I just saw, you edited once you realized there IS acceleration, duh

[mehrdadsanjabi 7]

The new flash player 10.1, has some advanced features and many optimizations that are out of the scope of your understanding, rude man.

 

Please don't even post a reply, that i hate to talk to such an impoilte guy like you.

[panzer-runner 2]

The new flash player 10.1, has some advanced features and many optimizations that are out of the scope of your understanding, rude man.

 

Please don't even post a reply, that i hate to talk to such an impoilte guy like you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

I understand someone screwed up and does not realize there is now a hit to the framerates in Firefox for Mac.

 

You hate to talk to me? Then don't post a useless reply in MY thread about a problem this game has unless you have any information that applies. This thread is for people to discuss whether or not there is a problem with frame rates and firefox specifically after the new fixes were applied regarding lag. To post useless garbage about how this engine is the fastest blah blah blah is irrelevant if there is a problem.

 

Did you address my points about firefox vs chrome vs safari, Mehadoodoo? No you didn't, you rude little man. You simply disregarded my points and spout off about how good the engine is and mistakenly thought there was no acceleration available for Flash. I corrected you sir. You edited your post because you were wrong. You still have not addressed my question about Mac Firefox and low framerates, which I know happens. Safari and Chrome do not have these low framerates.

 

I am 40 years old and I was writing code when you were being born, you 19 year old little man, so please do not make yourself look stupid by name calling, and being arrogant.

 

If you are a developer for Tanki Online, then that explains why there are so many problems. People who are native English speakers see just how bad your language skills are here and I really advise you to calm down and stop acting like the child that you are. :!:

 

If you want to help, try addressing my question and points rather than pushing your own agenda! If not, you are not helpful, and I will tell you so.

 

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[Guest Blasterz]

:D Panzer is the forum god? Mehdadoo, from what i see, is a (cut). another insult like this, and you will get banned from the forum. therussian.

 

I'm not a computer wiz or anything, by why not just use Chrome or Safari, since you said they work. Just forget about Firefox.

 

I mean it's good that you adressed this bug, but don't get carried away.

[panzer-runner 2]

:D Panzer is the forum god? Mehdadoo, from what i see, is a *****.

 

I'm not a computer wiz or anything, by why not just use Chrome or Safari, since you said they work. Just forget about Firefox.

 

I mean it's good that you adressed this bug, but don't get carried away.

 

Yours is a great point :D I actually did switch to Safari and have no problems doing so, in fact its every bit as fast as Firefox used to be. I recommend anyone using a Mac to use Safari or Chrome to play Tanki Online.

 

My point in making this thread was to address a problem that popped up a few days ago after a couple of fixes they applied. Let's face it, Firefox is a favorite browser of many people and it gets more popular on the Mac everyday. If there is a problem playing the game with Firefox, it needs to be addressed, I think. If the guys who design Tanki Online don't care about people who use Firefox... oh well, that's their loss then. Can you imagine if say.. Facebook or something were to just say.. "oh, who cares about Firefox, just use something else" hahaha. They don't because it's the wrong attitude and it would cost them reputation and $$$$

[bowler256 0]

panzer-runner wrote:Here is a new bug I just noticed. Last night there was tons of lag making the games unplayable, and according to Mikhail Gofman the developers were working on fixes for 2 known bugs. After they were applied, I noticed I could log into a game, and the lag problems seemed minimal or gone, but the usually great framerate was horrible. I was using Firefox and all games had this now, framerates between 7-12 fps vs the usual 20-30 fps. In a game others said their frame rates were fine. I tried using Safari and it was better.

Here is what I found:

 

Using Firefox for Mac, all framerates were 7-12 fps.

Using Safari for Mac, all framerates were 20-30 fps.

 

Before last night I only used Firefox for Mac and it was always 20-30 fps

 

My Details:

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Flash plug-in : Version 10.0.45.2

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6.2

Safari OS X 10.5; Version 4.0.4 (5531.21.10)

 

Well.. hmm :? :?

 

This is not getting better, nor have I heard anything from support. I have updated everything, and its the same, Firefox for Mac has low framerates. 7-9 fps is not playable and it used to be fine. Safari works, but most people use Firefox. Does anyone else have a Mac or this problem? Is support aware of this or what? While a new webpage design might look nice, a playable game would be better I think.

 

While no one expects things to get fixed instantly, after days of this and sending a PM to support, I have heard nothing back at all.

 

Lots of people... i am pretty sure everyone... is having this problem... and it is very annoying. If they do not fix it by April 11 everyone stop playing so they will have to fix it so that people will play.

[r_therussian0 47]

OSX 10.6.3, no difference in FPS between Safari & Firefox. Do you by any chance have a Skype extension for firefox installed? Since the problem is browser-specific (Safari and Firefox use the same flash player plugin), the source could be either in low priority set for firefox process, an extension in firefox that loads up the process of the browser itself consuming much more resources.

[panzer-runner 2]

OSX 10.6.3' date=' no difference in FPS between Safari & Firefox. Do you by any chance have a Skype extension for firefox installed? Since the problem is browser-specific (Safari and Firefox use the same flash player plugin), the source could be either in low priority set for firefox process, an extension in firefox that loads up the process of the browser itself consuming much more resources.[/quote']

 

Interesting points, but I don't think I get what you are saying. If you read my detailed account, you would have seen I made no changes on my part. Back when 2 fixes were applied to the game regarding lag I think or fatal errors, it went from 20-30 fps one day, to 7-9 fps the next and ever since. I was playing a game when the pop-up "the server has to reboot, please try again in 5 minutes " or whatever, and I logged out and back in a while later. That is when I noticed this issue. It would appear bowler256 has the same issue and prob others as well. I frankly have given up, there is no point. Safari is fine if I ever want to play, and if it is an issue for others, no one cares anyhow.

[r_therussian0 47]

You are the first person since June that has an FPS issue in FF but not in other browsers. Since it is THE SAME flash plug in, it cannot be anything besides a local issue.

[panzer-runner 2]

You are the first person since June that has an FPS issue in FF but not in other browsers. Since it is THE SAME flash plug in' date=' it cannot be anything besides a local issue.[/quote']

Right , I guess your saying bowler 256 doesn't count, and beside the fact I said I didn't have this problem until like 3/26, either way don't worry about it, if you are sure there is no bug then there is no bug.

[r_therussian0 47]

bowler 256 gives no description of his problem, and I think he's just having low fps, not just low fps in firefox and great fps in safari. But whatever, if you want ot think I'm evil instead of trying to work out a problem on your side, that's your right.

[panzer-runner 2]

bowler 256 gives no description of his problem' date=' and I think he's just having low fps, not just low fps in firefox and great fps in safari. But whatever, if you want ot think I'm evil instead of trying to work out a problem on your side, that's your right.[/quote']

he responded directly to my post and quoted me, I think he was pretty clear, but whatever, no problem.

 

panzer-runner wrote:Here is a new bug I just noticed. Last night there was tons of lag making the games unplayable, and according to Mikhail Gofman the developers were working on fixes for 2 known bugs. After they were applied, I noticed I could log into a game, and the lag problems seemed minimal or gone, but the usually great framerate was horrible. I was using Firefox and all games had this now, framerates between 7-12 fps vs the usual 20-30 fps. In a game others said their frame rates were fine. I tried using Safari and it was better.

Here is what I found:

 

Using Firefox for Mac, all framerates were 7-12 fps.

Using Safari for Mac, all framerates were 20-30 fps.

 

Before last night I only used Firefox for Mac and it was always 20-30 fps

 

My Details:

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Flash plug-in : Version 10.0.45.2

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6.2

Safari OS X 10.5; Version 4.0.4 (5531.21.10)

 

Well.. hmm :? :?

 

This is not getting better, nor have I heard anything from support. I have updated everything, and its the same, Firefox for Mac has low framerates. 7-9 fps is not playable and it used to be fine. Safari works, but most people use Firefox. Does anyone else have a Mac or this problem? Is support aware of this or what? While a new webpage design might look nice, a playable game would be better I think.

 

While no one expects things to get fixed instantly, after days of this and sending a PM to support, I have heard nothing back at all.

 

Lots of people... i am pretty sure everyone... is having this problem... and it is very annoying. If they do not fix it by April 11 everyone stop playing so they will have to fix it so that people will play.