2 gold boxes lost due to broken Dictator hitbox.

[hhgb 2,655]

Today in battles at Silence and Polygon I saw the gold announcement. It was at Silence I go to the drop area, and wait... When it finally drops, a Dictator rushes in, he is in the middle, grabs double armor and heals up on his way in, I am right in front of him. The gold falls above the area just in front of my Turret (Firebird). But he manages to get the gold box? My PING was below 25 at the time, stable 45 FPS, I have no idea what would have caused this to happen.

 

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

 

After the battles ends 3 flag captures later,  I move to a Polygon CTF. I join, battle in progress. Not even 2 minutes from joining, the siren goes off for another gold box. I locate the drop zone, get ready behind a near by building. I see it fall, a friendly Dictator is the first under the drop zone. I'm in my Hornet at the point, I manage to somehow get on top of a Viking, but when I get near to the gold, the Dictator's front slop (which you imagine would act as a ramp) wouldn't let me on as if it was a wall! He manages to barely get the box, and I still had 60% HP left after it. I should have gotten the box if it wasn't for Tanki's old Hitboxes that weren't touched from the creation of the game. 

 

The Tanki team should really look into this, I've seen it happen to other players, but now me. Is anything planned to take care of this error?
 

[lukey0 27,543]

No don't take Dictator Gold abilities away! :o Well now you know why so many Gold catches use this tank. It's because it hangs over other tanks. It's hard to explain but it's easier for the server to say that the Dictator got on top of the Hornet because its more realistic.   

[Maf 32,317]

 the Dictator's front slop (which you imagine would act as a ramp) wouldn't let me on as if it was a wall! 

The Tanki team should really look into this, I've seen it happen to other players, but now me. Is anything planned to take care of this error?

 

That's because despite the angular shape of the Dictator, it's hitbox (the actual shape that interacts with other objects) is a cuboid, therefore meaning that there is an invisible wall in front of it. A similar thing happens on rooftops - if you use parkour to get up there, you may end up "floating" above the building because the hitbox of the building is a cuboid and doesn't follow the shape of the slanted roof. If the developers make the hitboxes follow the curvature of the tank (as well as buildings etc.) it will make the game more laggy and longer to load. Moreover, the tanks might behave strangely after collisions. This is why this "error" won't be changed.

[Zenyth 6,494]

That's because despite the angular shape of the Dictator, it's hitbox (the actual shape that interacts with other objects) is a cuboid, therefore meaning that there is an invisible wall in front of it. A similar thing happens on rooftops - if you use parkour to get up there, you may end up "floating" above the building because the hitbox of the building is a cuboid and doesn't follow the shape of the slanted roof. If the developers make the hitboxes follow the curvature of the tank (as well as buildings etc.) it will make the game more laggy and longer to load. Moreover, the tanks might behave strangely after collisions. This is why this "error" won't be changed.

I agree to you.

[Zenyth 6,494]

Today in battles at Silence and Polygon I saw the gold announcement. It was at Silence I go to the drop area, and wait... When it finally drops, a Dictator rushes in, he is in the middle, grabs double armor and heals up on his way in, I am right in front of him. The gold falls above the area just in front of my Turret (Firebird). But he manages to get the gold box? My PING was below 25 at the time, stable 45 FPS, I have no idea what would have caused this to happen.

 

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

 

After the battles ends 3 flag captures later,  I move to a Polygon CTF. I join, battle in progress. Not even 2 minutes from joining, the siren goes off for another gold box. I locate the drop zone, get ready behind a near by building. I see it fall, a friendly Dictator is the first under the drop zone. I'm in my Hornet at the point, I manage to somehow get on top of a Viking, but when I get near to the gold, the Dictator's front slop (which you imagine would act as a ramp) wouldn't let me on as if it was a wall! He manages to barely get the box, and I still had 60% HP left after it. I should have gotten the box if it wasn't for Tanki's old Hitboxes that weren't touched from the creation of the game. 

 

The Tanki team should really look into this, I've seen it happen to other players, but now me. Is anything planned to take care of this error?

 

Well, we finally realized a use of Dictator after it's pair with Railgun fell out of favour; gold box farming. :p

[Promissory 569]

Dictator FTW!

[Truthteller 4,204]

It will be even worse more lagg means even lesser chance of getting gold..

SOLUTION: dictator  :D

[Loackie 269]

I can't see why they just make the hitboxes slanted or lower the hitboxes' height at the front, if this is such a problem.

[Maf 32,317]

I can't see why they just make the hitboxes slanted or lower the hitboxes' height at the front, if this is such a problem.

It would increase lag, increase the loading time of the game, increase demand of the game (therefore lower FPS) and add potential for strange behavior of tanks after collisions.

[hhgb 2,655]

and add potential for strange behavior of tanks after collisions.

We already have that problem.

[Maf 32,317]

We already have that problem.

It's not that bad now. Definitely better than before... (remember merging tanks when you spawned inside one another and fused  :wacko:) If the tanks have more polygons on them, it will make the physics a lot more complicated and tanks will have a lot more potential to collide incorrectly and glitch out. I'll bring your attention to the tank in GTA San Andreas - when two tanks collided quite often one of them would fly a hundred meters into the air. If this starts happening in TO, imagine the amount of falsely blocked "cheater" accounts in the first day...

[hhgb 2,655]

 If this starts happening in TO, imagine the amount of falsely blocked "cheater" accounts in the first day...

They should create a separate collision model from the hitbox.