Tanki Online - Caring

[Invincitron 888]

Hello.

 

Here's an "Idea and Suggestion" for you Tanki Online:

 

Start actually caring about your players. Saying, "Ideas regarding changes to the actual Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates are not accepted," just proves that you really don't care on what you do to the game because really, who cares about users' feedback? It's your game right? It's not our game that we should enjoy (at least that's where this game is at now).

 

What I am trying to say is that you really don't care about what we think about all the ludicrous updates you put into the game. You don't care what we think. You don't care if we think it's horrible. And this is not only just because of that rule. This is because so many people give feedback and yet I highly doubt you actually listen to them. If this is really the case, there is no need for an "Ideas and Suggestions" sub-forum here.

 

I'm not trying to make Tanki Online sound like a bad game, it was a good one. But honestly in my opinion, it's not going to be a good one if the developers keep this on.

 

Also, if the developers lock and/or delete this topic, that just proves that they really don't care. An extra reason why they don't care in case someone wants to remake this thread if it is locked and/or deleted.

 

Thank you.

[Pride.In.Blood 629]

True  :mellow:

[aqwzsxedc 699]

That's right :)

[Rad-Powered 1,694]

I'm out of upvotes so i'll upvote 2morrow but yh i agree, and if this is closed it just proves it even more, Also I think the fact that players can be banned for criticizing moderators is ridiculous.  <_<  -_-

[Promissory 569]

Yes, why open "Ideas & Suggestions" thread if they're not even gonna accept the Ideas & Suggestions. Is it just to make us think they do so?

[delnina2 1,570]

Tanki online does listent to us -.- . 

[Rad-Powered 1,694]

Yes, why open "Ideas & Suggestions" thread if they're not even gonna accept the Ideas & Suggestions. Is it just to make us think they do so?

Yep

[Rad-Powered 1,694]

Tanki online does listent to us -.- . 

invin why u upvote?

[Flappy1233 66]

Totally agree. Why is there an Ideas and Suggestions forum topic if you don't try out our ideas? What's the point? We want to make it a better game but the developers just make their own Ideas instead. You guys should step out and listen to what we say. You don't even use our ideas. You mostly close fantastic ideas. Who cares if its a bad idea? Can't you give a bad idea a chance? TO doesn't want us to try and make our own idea get into the game, they listen to their developers instead. Seriously, what's the point of an Ideas and Suggestion topic if you barely use any of our fantastic ideas?

[Maf 32,317]

Yes, why open "Ideas & Suggestions" thread if they're not even gonna accept the Ideas & Suggestions. Is it just to make us think they do so?

It really seems to be like that. I know that most ideas are rejected simply because they are completely absurd and/or won't fit in with the game, but even some of the more simple and logical ones still stay in the dark for a long time (if not forever). It would be great if new updates were described on the forum, tested on the test server, improved to satisfy most players' requests and THEN put onto the main servers, rather the other way around. Oh well, I guess we'll have to live with what we have.

On the bright side, the last few updates were pretty good for the most part, so we've got that going for us...

[jimboe2 35]

Their just like politicians and employers. :angry:

[deadtoyou 2,502]

It would be nice to have Developers reply to topics in this forum.....

[swede1 1,726]

 Hi Gunners,

 

   The truth is, the game graphics, physics, latency (lag), production on future builds, all take incredible amount of time and effort. There is a tendency for devs to keep secrets on what is planned for risks of having competitors taking that info and beating them to completion of ideas, so the players are kept in the dark so to speak, there are more detailed explanations but there is no need to go into more detail on that. Lets just say enquiring minds stay engaged longer.

   Creating revenue to keep a free to play game viable also takes a lot of effort and is one of the most difficult jobs to implement, it takes lots of ingenuity, imagination, marketing, while at the same time trying to keep a balance of fairness and respect for its player base. This is where players become at odds because it is another area of secrecy, so players are left in the dark here as well, this is a major cause of game and forum breakdown between players and producers / devs, it's an area that causes conflicts in many games, businesses alike, The more complex it is to implement, the harder it is to control, This is the main difference between free to play and pay to play games.

 

   Forums are an interesting concept, this one was created originally to fix bugs while the game was in development, run by the devs to get info from the first players/testers of the game. From there, players really started running the forum on there own, the devs got players to  moderate the forum with strict very strict guidelines, and let the moderators add content for players to keep in touch. The players started using the forum to complain about hackers and the never ending glitches, which occurs all the time  in a game that was designed as a "morphing project", continually evolving and following advances in technology. This is the main reason players both love and hate the game at the same time and count on the moderators and community manager to forward this info to the producers / devs. 

 

   The Forum quickly outgrew its players, moderators, and community manager as well as the producer / devs as the game expanded. With 250000 daily users of the game it is impossible to use such limited resources to maintain and run the forum properly when it was designed to handle one or two thousand players with the use of player / moderators running it.

It is antiquated, and overflowing with piecemeal sections and topics that bury posts in the blink of an eye, with often overworked and / or under trained  volunteer players.

 

   When you realize all this, it is no wonder, players may feel no one is listening, and to a great extent it is true, but at the same time the community, its moderators, and community managers have done as much as they can to pass on as many ideas as they could, and add what they could to this forum, and when the devs ran into issues, they came to the forum in search of answers.

   I hope this clears up some of your questions you have been searching for.

 

My comments are my own.

 

Have fun out there, I may see you on the servers once in a while  ;)

[SicTransitGloria 76]

Way to be brutal, Invincitron. I suppose the truth sometimes is.

 

True, the forum is insanely large and hard to handle. However, the actual devs only need to hang out in one or two subforums. Why would a game developer ever need to visit "The Pub" or "Announcements"? Though I suppose that most of it is meaningless blabber, anyway, noobs screaming stuff like "Make an OP weapon!" or "Nerf this gun!"

 

I suppose they are listening, in at least a half-hearted sort of way. The "Experiment" happened, after all. However, I suspect that our voice is largely drowned out by the larger fanbase, the Russians.

 

Don't believe me? Do you remember the shotgun naming poll? "Hammer" had hardly any votes in the English forum. "Bulldog" and "Magnum" where winning by a huge margin. And yet we have a weak-sounding shotgun with the title of "Hammer". I'm quite certain the Russian voters had much larger numbers. I'm not even sure how much we even tipped the scales in that vote.

[dilsharox 2,395]

i agree

[GG_reg 1,524]

I'm out of upvotes so i'll upvote 2morrow but yh i agree, and if this is closed it just proves it even more, Also I think the fact that players can be banned for criticizing moderators is ridiculous.  <_<  -_-

Imagine we are not moderators, we are just normal players with an extra job. Players get banned for criticizing other players, and insulting them also gets them banned, it's not just us moderators.

[Makaveli 825]

I agree with you Invincitron .:IN:.

[GG_reg 1,524]

Also, the developers do listen to a lot of things we suggest. Eg, players were moaning because we were not allowed to use all 3 supplies at once, so the developers listened (despite them not really wanting to) added in an option of Smart Cooldowns on/off. However, some of the ideas that are posted are quite ludicrous like names and ideas of new turrets which would make Tanki even less realistic.

[SicTransitGloria 76]

Also, the developers do listen to a lot of things we suggest. Eg, players were moaning because we were not allowed to use all 3 supplies at once, so the developers listened (despite them not really wanting to) added in an option of Smart Cooldowns on/off. However, some of the ideas that are posted are quite ludicrous like names and ideas of new turrets which would make Tanki even less realistic.

Bull.

 

They added in full drugging mode into PRO battles because they wanted to sell more battle passes. It didn't really have anything to do with people complaining.

 

Also, do we really care about how realistic Tanki is? Balanced, yes. Realistic, eh, no.

[deadtoyou 2,502]

Bull.

 

They added in full drugging mode into PRO battles because they wanted to sell more battle passes. It didn't really have anything to do with people complaining.

 

Also, do we really care about how realistic Tanki is? Balanced, yes. Realistic, eh, no.

I think they added it so that druggers who disliked the Smart Cooldowns could play the old way. I personally like the Smart Cooldowns.

[corpsecrusher2 53]

Removing crystal boxes is bad,i'm lucky i collected enough crystals before they removed them.if i had joined tanki today i would have m1 or m2 at generallissimo.

[r_S_A_J_A_D0 2]

devs dont care -.-

[Invincitron 888]

The developers don't care about this topic I guess (of course, this is just an assumption, perhaps they have read it).

[trombone_ftw 734]

I've posted quite a lot in this sub-section, and my threads always die out, even tho they are reasonable and get a lot of support.

 

Maybe I should just stop hoping that the game will get better...

[7919zola 252]

They added in full drugging mode into PRO battles because they wanted to sell more battle passes. It didn't really have anything to do with people complaining.

So you believe the reason a 'full drugging mode' was introduced, derived purely from the developers will to make more money (or as some may claim, greed)? That's preposterous.

 

Not sure where you were when they implemented the Smart Cooldowns, but you missed a ton of ridicule by a vast majority of players on that update. As you can see here, this update which ushered in the end of "druggers", was widely despised; even the topic that informed us of the testing for the update, was scorned! Is it not obvious that players detested the end of their "drugging"?

 

To cater to the masses and please their complaints, the developers then introduced the option to turn smart supplies off for a match, specifically enabled in Pro matches. So tell me this, if developers didn't do what the players ask/complain for, then logically why did they reintroduce a special mode in which we can once again "go full drugging"?  -_-