Mults

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Enough is enough. I am sick to death of the mult situation in the game. First of all I dont blame other clans or players for sending mults, it has become par de course.

My axe to grind is with the devs and admin, and to a lesser degree the mods of this great game.

 

I have a few questions to ask that I think demand some kind of response from admin. The game has become a joke with the use of mults. In fact the use of mults is as prevalent, if not more so than the use of main accounts. A really terrible indictment of the game as a whole.

 

The questions I have are these:

 

1: Why can’t mods view games without entering the actual battle? Even the most nearsighted person can see this is a the most OBVIOUS necessity for this type of game. Furthermore, when, if ever will this situation be resolved??

 

2: When playing a game it is necessary, in order to provide proof of a violation, to screenshot or even video a violator in order for that player to be reprimanded. What use is this when playing a game? (see points 3 and 4).

 

3: In the ‘English’ forum, especially of late, there seems to be hardly any mods available at any given time. Perhaps this is because most of the ‘English’ mods are under 18 and at this moment are busy with exams?

 

4: Even if these mods are online. What can they do, even with the aforementioned proof supplied? Answer: At most, a month ban from chat!!!

The simple fact is that the game is becoming a joke for ‘Pro’ players. It does seem that the devs and admin, and to a lesser degree the mods (who have their hands tied) don’t seem to care about the main problem of the game.

 

So I ask:

 

Why cant the devs include an update so that mods can view games?

 

Why cant mods or admin block accounts that have been proven to be cheaters, rather than simply ban chat for a week or month? How will the fact that someone cant chat, stop them from playing as a mult?

 

This is not a complaint against mods, nor a complaint as such against admin, I ask this to be left in GD for all to comment.

 

Copies sent to all admin mods and to Bruce.

 

Bruce, Show your worth here and make some action on this. It is after all the number one problem in the game.

 

MM

[MadDog21 230]

Clear, concise, comprehensive and targeted at serious problems with greater sweep than merely mults. Further, MM offers solutions which ought, certainly, to be within the skill and reach of the Devs.

 

When i was a Mod these frustrations ground like a gear wanting lube. I am, but, one, so I can't vote for others, but, MM, you get my +1. I hope your post is read and considered by those who are able to affect change.

 

Best regards.

 

MadDog21

[Snyper22 15]

I completely and utterly agree with you MM, I deal with this issue on a daily basis and it frustrates me to no end!!

 

I lose battles because of this, (and many other problems that I feel could be fairly easily dealt with,) and the whole thing sickens me....

 

But like my account that has been hacked, (soon going on for 3 weeks,) I myself cannot even get what should be a simple procedure accomplished, (getting my password changed,) so I know how you feel and I personally do not see any light at the end of this very dark tunnel as mults and hackers seem to have the only flashlight in the crowd... :?

[Tommy60 406]

To be honest, I rarely find mults in any games I play. =/

 

Don't get me wrong; I play with people around my rank, (Major General) but I hardly ever notice mults. Occasionally, I may see an idle tank, only to see it resume activity in a minute or two. I can say from personal experience that someone may start to load a battle on Tanki, then stray away from their computer for a snack or quick break. Once 'said' player gets back to their computer, the game may have been loaded for a minute or two.

 

Not always mults; sometimes it's people with lives...

 

My two cents, anyways.

[Snyper22 15]

To be honest, I rarely find mults in any games I play. =/

 

Don't get me wrong; I play with people around my rank, (Major General) but I hardly ever notice mults. Occasionally, I may see an idle tank, only to see it resume activity in a minute or two. I can say from personal experience that someone may start to load a battle on Tanki, then stray away from their computer for a snack or quick break. Once 'said' player gets back to their computer, the game may have been loaded for a minute or two.

 

Not always mults; sometimes it's people with lives...

 

My two cents, anyways.

 

You know, you seem to always have to rebuttle everyone, I am starting to see why MrBurks didn't like you very well,,, not to mention your nasty comments to me in battle...

 

And mults have nothing to do with YOUR rank, (which your egotistical self seems to want to mention for no apparent reason at all,) which by the way is also my rank...

 

This topic was not made for rebuttle, it was made because of his experiences on Tanki and to try and hopefully get SOMETHING done about it...

 

Obviously, (so far) at least 2 other players agree with his statements/experiences, that is what he is searching for, NOT someone to completely try and supress the experiences that he has had here, and not some brown nosed kid that has rose colored glasses on that say ignorance is bliss written on the lenses!!

 

And to add: Do not even try to insult our intelligence again!! we know damn well the difference between taking a short, quick break from the pc and MULTS that sit there almost the whole entire game!! next time kid read what someone posts and don't just jump in so you can say your meaningless rank, or get your post count up to 3,000 posts!!

 

I suggest you walk carefully on the thin ice kid, as you haven't lived long enough, or been through half of anything in life yet to understand that the ice is very thin even if it looks so strong and thick to YOU...

[The_Ice_Dragon 22]

I have to agree with you MM although I do not see much mults in the game. However, I do see many hackers in games which has become a big problem.

 

I think Tanki Online just needs more moderators (To watch for mults and chat) and maybe a system where it can detect hackers and kick them out of the game.

 

 

 

T.I.C

[MonkeyMagic 89]

To be honest, I rarely find mults in any games I play. =/

 

Don't get me wrong; I play with people around my rank, (Major General) but I hardly ever notice mults. Occasionally, I may see an idle tank, only to see it resume activity in a minute or two. I can say from personal experience that someone may start to load a battle on Tanki, then stray away from their computer for a snack or quick break. Once 'said' player gets back to their computer, the game may have been loaded for a minute or two.

 

Not always mults; sometimes it's people with lives...

 

My two cents, anyways.

 

like i said tommy, no disrespect, but top end http://forum.tankionline.com/posts/list/92214.page this is the issue that causes the problem for me.

 

Also, for once, I agree with MD. It's not just mults, but the powers that are supposed to police the game are a joke(and for the mods its not their fault). Violators that constantly abuse the game should be blocked from playing. Same with the karma for chat bans, people that violate should be subject to acount blocking within the same criteria. 1 day, 1 week, 1 month and then finally perm blocks. Until this happens, I doubt there will be any sort of fair play, or a lack of people willing to cheat in the game.

[PotatoDeserter 0]

guys, that's not customer service you got used to in Europe and US. That's Russian business :) Here will always be dilettantism and mafia. Look at Russia as a whole - selling oil, doing nothing else, country is ruining - they don't care.

[r_Xenonzx0 10]

I have to agree with you MM although I do not see much mults in the game. However, I do see many hackers in games which has become a big problem.

 

I think Tanki Online just needs more moderators (To watch for mults and chat) and maybe a system where it can detect hackers and kick them out of the game.

 

 

 

T.I.C

all the points stated (except above) are right

this should be put an end to immediately

there maybe 7 million players in TO, but out of them, how many may be mults?

the developers should create/install a program that looks for two people in the same battle with the same IP address

and take them both out

this will resolve only half of the mult problem, but half is better than nothing and once half is achieved... it can be completely eradicated

and snyper, if Tommy has such a big ego that he put his rank there,

why did YOU also add ur rank too?

[BCEM_BCTATb-OMON 4]

i find hackers a much much bigger issue then mults. hackers are now everywhere, most of the games i play there is at least 1 hacker

[Snyper22 15]

I have to agree with you MM although I do not see much mults in the game. However, I do see many hackers in games which has become a big problem.

 

I think Tanki Online just needs more moderators (To watch for mults and chat) and maybe a system where it can detect hackers and kick them out of the game.

 

 

 

T.I.C

all the points stated (except above) are right

this should be put an end to immediately

there maybe 7 million players in TO, but out of them, how many may be mults?

the developers should create/install a program that looks for two people in the same battle with the same IP address

and take them both out

this will resolve only half of the mult problem, but half is better than nothing and once half is achieved... it can be completely eradicated

and snyper, if Tommy has such a big ego that he put his rank there,

why did YOU also add ur rank too?

 

To show how unimportant rank is... anyone can say their rank, and if it is a high rank, it doesn't mean anything at all, it surely doesn't mean that they are a pro player, or even better than average.... rank hardly means anything in this game...

[Lieutenant_Me 65]

4: Even if these mods are online. What can they do' date=' even with the aforementioned proof supplied? Answer: At most, a month ban from chat!!! [/quote']

 

I already said similar in formal request and even suggesed solution. But, never mind, most of english spoken users even don't know fact: on russian part of Forum exist topic: 'ЛОГ: наказанные игроки'. Mults, saboteurs... got just one day Ban and their name in that list. Second penallty will be 25% fine. But, I reported few users who continuously doing same offense and they still not fined or punished. Mults won and this game just sucks.

 

We need harsh punisment for mults. I propose that such users get month prohibition to join any game or even to log on tanki which is better becouse than they can't collect daily bonus. And when they come back Tanki will not welcome those mults with 'we miss you' bonus. If those now registered mults repeat same thing they must be not fined, instead blocked from Tanki forever. Mults are not buyers, they don't increase revenue for Tanki, why admins and developers dont do some radical about this problem?

[skitee 555]

I have barely seen a mult. I know that it is a big problem, but for me and my DM-playing self, multing is not a problem. The fact that it does not affect me and my DMs does not mean that it is not a big problem though: half of the complaints are about mults and it is clearly a big issue.

 

Personally, I think that often multing is not dealt with harshly because it is such a controversial problem. The mods are often just working with flimsy evidence, and it is a risk. After all, Lieutenant_Me, you yourself were banned for multing. I personally cannot imagine you multing yourself, not one bit considering the amounts of complaints you have given of that very thing, but even then you got a ban for it. This is just one example - and I'm sure it happens often - of people getting bans for something they did not do. Imagine if, Lt. Me, you had got a month ban from the game for your "multing", which you probably did not do. So who does deserve the month-ban-from-the-game then? Only the ones with clear evidence??? What then?

 

Yes, multing is a problem. The innovation for mods to see into games without joining them is a necessity. I also think that the present bans for mults are too small. But if the admins are to implement very strong and harsh month-long blocks from the game, then mistakes will be made, which could have massive consequences for the negative. The tanki admins are already very busy as it is, if they are to have complaints from angry people who have been blocked from the game for a length of time, then what could happen?

 

But like my account that has been hacked' date=' (soon going on for 3 weeks,) I myself cannot even get what should be a simple procedure accomplished, (getting my password changed,) so I know how you feel and I personally do not see any light at the end of this very dark tunnel as mults and hackers seem to have the only flashlight in the crowd...[/quote']

 

What's so difficult about getting your password changed? I can do it in 5 minutes.

[Lieutenant_Me 65]

After all' date=' Lieutenant_Me, you yourself were banned for multing. I personally cannot imagine you multing yourself, not one bit considering the amounts of complaints you have given of that very thing, but even then you got a ban for it. This is just one example - and I'm sure it happens often - of people getting bans for something they did not do. Imagine if, Lt. Me, you had got a month ban from the game for your "multing", which you probably did not do. So who does deserve the month-ban-from-the-game then? Only the ones with clear evidence??? What then?

 

That match was played before new stricter rules. I even try to exlain why i didnt kill Fill_707 but i dont received respond on my letter. Fill_707 join the game game and I killed him couple of times. Then I saw that he don't respond and wan't shot at me and I realized that he is in game only just for crystal box. Why would I be bother with players like that? He dont kill me and I dont kill him. If he is a traitor/mult he is problem for enemy side, not for me and my team. I have big problems with DAN100 who used M3 shaft on full drugs (as I comment in game) and I start chasing him and dont pay attention on Fill_707. Although I hate traitors/mults I hate even more shaft on full drugs. In that time I already reported few mults even they played for opposite team. Still, that's not only problem. Problem is in rules and fact that english players don't know for that russian Topic. But when they hear about it it's to late for them, they already punished. :?

[MadDog21 230]

(I attempted posting this in my last night, but "bad gateway" kept showing, hence I'm somewhat late on this thread but no less opinionated.) It feels peculiar to be absolutely in line with the Magic Monkey, but I am with no regrets. :lol: When you're right, you're right. It is the impotence of the Mods, the failure of Admin to seriously sanction violators and entrust those whom they employ as mods that exacerbates the many problems, not just the "mults." Another example to consider with no intent to muddy the waters. Lobby chat remains rife with profanities and vulgarities. I see warnings and bans for flooding while the chat is rife with scat and profane screeds that seemingly never get warnings or bans. I loath it. It's primary to why I served as a Mod for the time I did. Tanki says they care about a "friendly," specifically a kid friendly environment, but deeds, not words apply. Talk is cheap.

 

Mods have literally no authority. It may seem that they do, bu for effective control of the game in chat and play, it's pathetically minimal, generally impotent. They're burdened by screen shot requirements, double and triple posting of any bans over an hour and busy work that further reduces their abilities and time-on-task to actually moderate the chat and matches. If one cannot apply the PC proggies to make the work more efficient (MAC folks like me), it is double and triple the work. Discuss or argue the issue, and the response you'll see that I got is, "It's business." Well, frustrate Tankers enough, raise concerns with parental units and fail to uphold and entrust the work assigned to Mods, and "business" will suffer.

 

Tanki, you're a year past the originally announced 2.0 application. That's fine in my view. It must be challenging. However, you're ignoring the integrity issues in the game, and that can be lethal. I've never understood why "mults" are even permitted. The primary reason for those is to enable wankers who consistently violate rules to still have a way to play and chat. It's foolish for any culture to not only permit and enable but to actually encourage its "criminals" to apply options that allow them to continue violations. That, my friends, is the way of madness, and it will bear bitter fruit. You're reading some of it here, if you're reading. Consider. Tanki isn't the only show in town, and frustrations of these sorts surely sends folks searching.