just PS don't make a good desinger. You can work with Gimp or Corel and be much better than a designer, who wors with PS ;) I won't make one Artwork because i don't have the time. I will make a longer breack with desinging :evil: , but I wisch the other desinger of TO good luck :thumbup: Sorry my English is not such good as that one of the most of You

But i don't think TTF logo deserve to get second prize,TTF just put one tank pic vk/freeze on blue universe background.It is too easy to put subject on background.Photo makers know it well.But they got second prize with this pic ? Easy??! :shock: Moth of theese think are selfmade, the bakgroun at some fields, the screenshot, the tank is self renderet, the Typo (if you can understand me :roll: ) Most of don't know what a schoftbrush and grungebrush is and hof important they were for my work!! :evil: first look at the .xcf Version, than you will be alloved to say, that it is a simple work!!! :evil: If you don't have the intellegenz, than shup up! :evil: :evil: :evil: