Lmao I did this to some freezes on an alt. Freeze's effect was so useless all you had to do was turn your whole hull with the turret and the freeze effect was basically non existent unless you tricked the enemy into turning their hull and turret in a direction you weren't going and then you just SPIN IT TO WIN IT! It was even worst because In high rank almost everyone has health kit and health kits are suppose to cure people of freeze and firebird's effects.

Have you ever played an XP/BP match before? I don't think you have... If everyone hides how does anyone ever capture a flag? Are all XP/BP matches TDM and DM matches? I don't think so. Apparently railguns can get flags by hiding and waiting for the enemy...

Railgunners hide? Most railgunners i saw were running and capping flags and the guy who hid was playing defense. You know the thing people do when they support the attackers. What good is a defender if he is being stupid staying in the open. Railgun had a skill element in which If you missed a shot you missed an opportunity and now have to wait awhile until you can fire again. Now its, "Oh I missed." *Waits a few seconds* "Shoots before enemy has chance to get into cover" Completely ruins the skill of not wasting a shot.

This update was made for people who say, "Darn, my favorite weapon keeps getting rekt by "x" turret, pls nerf."Nobody asked for the hull re balance though, that was just stupid.

Well my personal opinion is a gun that's able to basically spin circles around you shouldn't exist. But since it does, It should 1. Have the shortest range in game 2. Have the lowest dps of all the CLOSE RANGE turrets That would make it," BALANCED" while still having it able to freeze you like an ice cube lmao.

Exactly what I said a few pages ago. If you expect to beat a short range weapon to be easy to kill after its gotten close to you there is something wrong with your head. Short range weapons have to work hard to get close to you, and once they get close, they deserve the kill. Simple as that. When I used shaft on one of my alts, Isida wasn't even a threat to me unless guess what, it was drugging. Then I had to either run or let the Isida get close, (where its suppose to be strong) and kill me. When I used firebird on a different alt, I felt as though railgun, shaft, and thunder were OP. WHY? those turrets destroy my firebird long range before I can even burn them for one second. If I get close with my firebird I deserve the kill. If I spawn next to a Thunder or a medium to long range turret, I deserve the kill because I have him right where I want him. (close to me)

Well to tell the truth there is one strategy that I constantly see in Polygon CP and also other game modes... 1,2,3,4, and sometimes 5. Those buttons make the player a pro who can kill entire teams. watapro

Don't forget suicide dive into the pit right after...

What would a poll do? Every time there is a poll they are almost certain to exactly the opposite of what players want or fix the issue while creating a new one.

Unfortunately this is what I fear. Alterations making turrets basically like they were before re balance, effectively erasing the re balance if you are a buyer.

Tanki strategy: Me: rail hornet. drives looking for a double armor so I can activate double damage after I get double armor. *sees enemy* charges shot before leaving cover *one shots enemy* Enemies reaction: fk he was drugging. My reaction if he survived: fk he has double armor on. Well I guess the update changed that but its essentially the same lmao.

Umm are people trolling or something?

^ People don't understand what OP is tbh. OP is something that is extremely better than everything in almost every situation. I have yet to see a freeze be relevant on monte carlo so it can't be that OP. Freeze is only op if 1.It attacks you from behind, every gun is op if it attacks you from behind so that isn't really a thing to chalk up as an advantage solely for freeze. 2.It spins around you. Like I said before if you let a close range turret get close to you they deserve the kill, what, do you expect to beat a close range turret after its gotten close to you? FFS RIDDLER_8 you're absolutely right about freeze being 100% perfect.

To be honest idk how they expect anyone except people with bottomless pockets to leave years of hard work just to play something that's exactly the same but with updated graphics. If issues like this appear in this version, imagine tanki x.

Apparently isida was the best hull pre rebalance. :)

Isida's was perfectly balanced pre rebalance though. The self healing was OP when you introduced DD to the picture. Isida was easy to kill just long range it. If you let isida get close to you or it spawned near you tough luck you're dead unless you are a short ranged turret. I have never played an mmo that had a healer that couldn't heal itself just as much as it can their teammates. The turret wasn't op. Long range>Isida, Short range = Isida, medium range > isida. double damage and double armor makes isida more capable of catching you and killing you, and with double damage it got almost all its health back. tl:dr Isida wasn't OP, drugs have the potential to make it the best turret in game, and if you use that logic all guns are op.

How is this, "update" not enough for a refund is beyond me... the only thing that didn't change in the game is the maps. They said this wasn't a big enough change for a refund, FFS hulls in the same class have the same health making the heaviest one useless. Turrets characteristics are completely changed,(new damage, new turning speed, new reload, etc...) and that's not enough for a refund? Have fun losing players I guess.

Woah that would make people who have access to mines almost unstoppable... I've been in games in where the only way you're capturing the enemy flag is if you kill the person making mines, and for them to stay after you die. TOO MUCH! The idea of giving people back mines that were used and not ran over is good, but I think they are trying to be realistic with mines. Imagine in real life after you dropped a mine and realized it was in a place no one would go and tried to pick it up to place it somewhere else... A mine box falling from the sky? Seems like a decent idea. Your idea on it, seems like a bad one. Instead of putting the mines in your actual supplies, (which would cause,"Mine Hunters") perhaps make the player have an unlimited amount of mines for a set period of time, (Like at most 5 seconds) and to have no cool down until the timer is up. Overall mines are fine atm tbh.

Well I've noticed something. This is to push alterations, which will make tanki players spend more money. On a business standpoint its genius for the money cows who are willing to eat whatever you put in front of their face. But for those who don't have the luxury of having bottomless pockets this spells doom. Turrets: There is a difference between balance and making it so that everything plays exactly the same way . Railgun: increasing reload speed of railgun to reduce damage per shot. While that sounds good on paper, isn't railgun suppose to be the long recharge heavy hitter. Thats the reason why people bought it and to change it indirectly you made players waste crystals. imo railguns reload speed at m3+ levels ins't really that long ffs, making it shorter will turn it into thunder without splash damage. Smoky: so basically you guys are turning smoky into the re-rebalance smoky? sure seems like it to me. Critical damage is almost non existent now, impact is now laughable. Its the real recruit weapon now... Might as well use thunder. Twins: WOW! UNBELIEVABLE! You listen to people saying that self heal is overpowered but not the consistent dps + impact force that twins have? Wow, I dont even know what to say to this but its clear that the dev's like twins. Its legit top 3 best turret in the game. I know. "No turret is the best turret, Its the player using the turret.'' Yeah but when you have constant people saying things like. "noob twins" it means either they got beat by someone better than them or that turret just might be an issue. Twins may lose at long range but unless your in low ranks, you wont see any twins-wasp running around. Firebird: imo it was a nerf but not a huge one. 2.5 seconds to 5 seconds for burn damage is good on paper again but firebird has arguably the strongest dps in game. It doens't exactly have to rely on DoT as its main source of dmg. The fuel issue is more abundant because if firebird users want there 2.5 sec back they will need alteration I think.(IDK i personally hate firebird which is why any nerf to them isn't a big deal) Thunder: I always thought thunder was OP but now they cemented it with this update that thunder will be the best midfielder turret no contest. The one thing keeping thunder from being OP was its reload, which you increase... and to make matters worst you increase its impact force... Well thunder confirmed new smoky. Rico: Dont even know what to say about this gun its almost non existent on the battlefield. Its basically turned into a suckier twins that can bounce on walls :) Vulcan: Why! Why I ask you! increase its damage? FFS it has close range turret damage and like smoky and thunder's range. and it can shoot faster. ffs its like the dev's and the players play a different game if this is balanced... Hammer: HAHAHAHA hammerkings rip. That is all Isida: well people who liked being vampires, time to have your dreams crushed. your self healing is now 10%... and considering isida is a short ranged turret its most likely gonna meet firebirds and freezes a lot... well easy kill. as for anyone who likes to camp on Brest and heal shafts you also get rekt :) reduced healing and an increase in ammunition. WOW i love the way this is promoting isidas to stick to one person or suffer the consequences. This turret is good if you like healing I guess but it wont even be able to do that well. Freeze: No complaints from me. Being frozen instantly means it lives up to its name. Max damage further away though may be a little much though. Shaft: I really don't understand why this is the only game that has a sniper that can't ohko everything. I mean ffs the sniper motto is one shot one kill. I know ppl dont like being one shotted but guess what? That's what a sniper is suppose to do. ffs its not even a sniper anymore its basically a thunder with a scope. Well what I see is not balance but clearly making specific guns useless on purpose and making viable guns play the same way as each other. Well done guys.

Ty for help. Any recommendations? I get bored of rail hornet.

Yeah still the issue of using a dead turret though lol.

10k currently... so poor...

Ouch... Saying my favorite turret is dead... So which turret should I use?

I made a new account due to the fact that this acct is bad for its rank. I plan to use shaft on my new account because i like sniping. Which hull is best for shaft?