Maybe you were referring to me as well, but I certainly don 't think this game would exist without buyers! My point is that we need both! Don 't forget that non-buyers are potentially buyers. That 's the strength of a free game like Tanki. Easy and free to start and along the way many players find themselves longing for a better upgrade. So they buy it and there 's nothing wrong with that. We as players should not define the rank-limits of what we can buy. Many sergeants with enough money would even buy that new medium M3 kit if it was made available to them! That 's so wrong in so many ways I don 't even get started. The same counts if you lower the rank-limits that much, that a Brigadier already can get that OP medium M3 kit. It would definitely spoil the gameplay for the vast majority. No, it is Tanki Online who has to set the right rank-limits for these kits and they kept making them lower each time. With this mistake in my view as a result. I understand kits have to contain a rank-benefit so people want it, but really never that much! Hopefully this moment will be used to reverse or at least stop this continuously lowering of the rank-limits. It is wrong and devastating for the game. So if people want to spend money on the game that 's totally fine with me. I will also do that in due time. The Price limits are a factor, but they are by far less important than the Rank limits!

He 's longing for a reaction that guy. Ok, I will do my part. MrTactics and some others don 't care if the game gets spoiled by too early obtainable and very overpowered kits. As long as he, his wallet and super-garage have "fun" at the cost of other players, he 's going to be happy. The rest are all just moaners: just using his own words. Pretty short-sighted in my view, because introducing these kind of super-kits at such too soon ranks could well backfire. Many players will simply quit if they get that easily beaten every single time. If there still are enough newcomers this can go on for quite a while, but in the end: goodbye Tanki Online. And MrTactics, what 's the point of Ranking when you can have all this superb M3 equipment already at Brigadier. Why go on to Marshal and beyond? A part of Tanki 's success IS the ranking system and with it the ability to get better upgrades. Simple and effective economics at the risk to be going down the drain. Tanki Online (Alternativa) should better stay a slow and steady growing, but above all a stable company, which provides good jobs for their employees for many more years. If the company goes on to be only focused on the buyers, they will surely earn a lot in a short time. Just as short as in my view all these brilliant employees will still have their jobs and we our great game!

Ricochets all over the place, yet the turret gets hardly discussed. Maybe because it is so OP that many of us are being struck dumb? To try to get this thread going again I hereby open "The Bounce". What is "The Bounce"? The Bounce" is an ongoing story and partly a "game". You start it with the words: bounce, bounce, bounce and you end your part also with these three words. It has to go about the Ricochet ofcourse, and you also should try to engage in a bit of word play. Lets start: (might be the first and also the last "Bounce": lets find out! ) bounce, bounce, bounce... "After the last Ribalance, one of the most popular weapons has become the Ricochet. It used to be a very strong weapon in the past, but being a fresh noob I have no ricollection of that. For a long time the Ricochet was quite nerfed and became pretty rare, but after the Ribalance it made a strong ricovery! You will now also find a brand new one in my Garage Rico-shed. This very OP weapon now flocks the Battlefield in such numbers we might be getting close to what some already call the Ricocalypse (to be pronounced with a short o) ! As one Tanker wrote: this Ribalance and discount took care of a nice balance...in our Garage." :) ............. bounce, bounce, bounce...

quote "You've just acknowledged tanki must make money" I have given you the perfect strawman didn 't I. That 's what you do in this topic. Pick one quote and proof your "right" on that point. And very conveniently you simply ignore the subjects you don 't have a direct answer to. It 's said to you before and you just keep doing it. Don 't expect it to change either. Have it your way. Yes, Tanki is set up as a free game, and what I read it was a lot easier to get high-ranked in the past. Well, you have to be very good in the present Tanki to make enough crystals to get whatever you want (need). I would like to have Dragon paint now (micro upgraded as well to be effective). Don 't have the crystals I need, so next option could be buying? I suppose there are more players like me who doubt about buying or not buying at some point. I don 't see that as a defeat or bad. No, it 's allright in my own case if it stays in hand. And it would be good for the game I love. If I read about Tankers who invest huge amounts of real money to micro upgrade their garage I do wonder myself, at this stage at least: why would you do that? On the other hand it is their choice and as a customer you should also expect some result from such an expensive investment. If soon after your weapon of choice gets nerfed badly after an unexpected Rebalance, they you have the full right to be angry. Even Tanki knows that, that 's why this topic is here. Such a nerf might even be the reason for some to leave the game. That 's not good. Tanki will surely not be happy with that. They are customers! Even you have to acknowledge that, because you are constantly hammering on the fact that Tanki is a business. Do you even realize that in a business the customers are King? Otherwise you soon don 't have a business anymore. Basic rule of Economics. Customers don 't moan! You can make a fool of customers behind closed doors, but a wise company will never say something like that in public! And Tanki never did or will as far as I know, and I don 't even think that they call us "moaners" behind those closed doors! They have a different view on the matter because of their position in it, but I sure they understand the complaints. I also understand the difficulty of this subject for them, there is no easy solution. But being silent will certainy not help! If you want to make people really angry they should have reacted like I read in this topic: just be quiet and play! Tanki doesn 't do that all and that is a wise decision! Customers complain and if you want to alienate your customers you certainly must start with calling them "moaners". Another fine example in which I wonder if Tanki is so happy with your involvement in this matter? You might consider choosing different words than "moaners" in your next reply. Maybe they are searching for an answer, I wouldn 't know. They don 't need advice from us, like we are that smart and can give that: ideas and suggestions are what they need. In the end they have to come up with the solution, not us Tankers. And certainly they need complaints to make them aware of the things their customers are unhappy about! In my point of view it doesn 't matter if you are a buyer or a non-buyer. It is a free game so we start of with the same rights after all. And every Tanker is potentionally a buyer so a smart company like Tanki tries to make everyone always as happy as possible. That is also their intention, I have no doubt about that. Again an abundance of strawmen in this one. Make your choice.

^ I do get it. The next weapon to be nerfed is the Ricochet for sure and perhaps a weapon like Smoky will get a buff. Future quote: "we saw in the gaming results that the Ricochet is slighty too powerfull now, that 's why we decided to reduce the damage" In actual gameplay after this upcoming "Total Balance", "Newest Physics" or whatever it will be called this will mean Rico will only be played and still be successfull by guys who really know how to get the best out of this weapon. And make every plasma projectile count! At the moment even the biggest nubs (like myself) can achieve nice scores with it. At least with the Rico M1, don 't know about the M0, didn 't play with it. All the veterans I suppose know how it works. I read the history and on the Forum and think I understand how Tanki works till a certain extend. Real newcomers don 't, especially young kids who only want to play. They just get or buy what is the best at the moment. When they are tired and bored with the game they leave. As long as there are enough newcomers Tanki can do whatever it wants. "They don 't give a fudge about nonbuyers" is too harsh, but it 's not where the focus lies that 's for sure. They only should be carefull not to alienate the guys who are in this game for "Ages". Can 't tell if this is happening, but at least there is quite a group of them. When moods swing anything can happen, just a part of human nature. It may sound that I don 't like the game: the opposite is true. It is a very nice game, with constant development in the background. Tanki on Unity, mobile devices, tweaking the Game, Forum etc. Most of these changes are good and make the game better and better. Tanki is very much alive! This doesn 't mean you shouldn 't complain. The contrary: if they don 't get feedback, how will they know what the Tankers want? So keep this topic alive, which will be wanted or unwantedly be supported by Tankers like MrTactics, and perhaps we can achieve a new rethinking on these Balances. Devs are not robots but humans too. Tanki must make money, I am pretty aware of that, it is a business after all! Those people work hard for us and deserve a good salary. I certainly don 't have the answer how to make money in a different way, not my job either: but how it goes now with these "Balances" followed by discounts I feel is not the solution, and a dead end in the long run in my view. Be creative Tanki, like you are in the Game itself!

quote "This is ridiculous, this is a sincere question, do you understand the aim of a rebalance? To make everything equal." You are completely contradicting yourself aren 't you? quote "To make everything equal": so that 's why the Tanki Devs made the Rico so extremely OP? Why do you keep on defending Tanki no matter what? What is your purpose? Or do you just like to be in heated discussions? Can 't you just consider this as a topic where Tankers can blow off some steam? That 's how the Devs consider it I suppose, because no reaction from that side till now: and I don 't expect one either. The Company policy is most likely to not react at all. Probably the most effective way to deal with frustated Tankers also. You are actually not really helping them in that perspective as the self-acclaimed Tanki-knight. This topic stays very much alive with your kind of input: you realize that? Your just throwing petrol on a slumbering fire. Do you really think the Devs just made a mistake with the Rico? They made it accidently stronger as they had intended? Come on, these guys know almost exactly what happens if they change the parameters. To not think so, would be insulting towards them in my opinion. They are Pro 's no doubt! This is done on purpose, just like the following discount was done on purpose. It was truly a real "surprise" that the Rico was choosen by the communities as the weapon to be discounted with 50%. Next time I hope they make three paints to choose from, just like they did on the Tournaments. Which turret will be number one? Might have won this time! (I did with Noob Army...also an easy pick) The result: Ricochets all over the place! And only long-distance weapons that achieve to stay at a distance, have a fair chance against these rebalanced Ricochets. Welcome to the Rico-Wars! We now guarantee you quick and many respawns! This whole Rebalance has nothing to do with TRUE balancing. Yes, they are working with "the scales" on the game. And they are actually balancing some equipment in the good direction. Freeze is a good example. It 's still strong enough, but the freeze effect lasts a lot shorter which improves the game experience for all. (in my view) But a gun like my Smoky M1 has become useless now. I used to have many criticals with it, even more than I supposed to have if I looked at the statistics. Very nice weapon, that could compete. Now I have more criticals, but not that many more and the damage they do almost make my enemies smile. Especially when they have a Rico: they grin. Guess what I bought at the discount? Not my intention, but I did not have much choice isn 't it? If you can 't beat them, join them. At least if you want to earn crystals: most Tankers like I do. Balanced? Think again if the vast majority is already or soon will be Ricochet. I wish I could have bought some kind of stocks in Ricochet Paints because that would made me a very rich Tanker now. Last thing: keep on insulting decent responding persons like AbsoluteZero and I will definitely report you.

Please could you use a dictionary next time?

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