Correct, defenders stay put and range and hopefully you can take out and have your offense in the area to return. Worse scenario they get one and you are back in position to defend an onslaught.

This post is in part sarcasm. I see it all to often where as soon as the enemy grabs the flag everyone scrambles to him. That is the best way to let him get away. The defense spaz's their way to defeat. From what I can tell whether it's thunder, rail, shaft, ricochet etc all turrets can range the flag barer and do not have to be touching him. Do yourself and your team a favor and get him in site stop and shoot. Let the fast isilda's or fire turrets chase. I can't tell you how many times i was pushed out of the way by a shaft or rail while I ready to fire so they could chase. Not only does this let him get away it creates havoc and opens up a stream of flag captures due to lack of defense who has left to chase. For those of you who play hockey look at it in these terms, don't chase the puck and get yourself out of position, and tired :-). Anyhow, hope you take this as good advice and pass it on in your game.

First off I see many questions on how hard it is to do the challenges so the contest is stupid. If I read it right it states make a tutorial on how you feel is the best way to attempt to complete it. There are too many variables to complete these every time. Second, a question of my own. I have 3 accounts, can I make tutorials from any and have a choice of which I want upgraded if I win or get consolations? Thanks

You need to pay more attention to in game chat in a drug war. 80% complain about the druggers taking over the game. Look at any server and you can see all the lopsided scores and most of those games have just one team while the other quit due to druggers. I think you will see fuller and better balanced scores now. By the way, is the battle fund distribution been balanced so its not pretty much winner take all? That will also keep people in games. Thanks Tanki, awesome update.

Now, let me log in so I can buy some mines before update and get double :-)

So I am seeing mixed talk about smart cool downs. Some say 2 at a time others 1 then wait for cool down then other giving a short overlap. Which is it, or neither. If it is 2 at a time then this update won't affect druggers influence on the game too much. If it is 1 at a time then that introduces a whole new strategy and skill in to the game. Good for devs to finally listen to the majority and do what is best for the game which is introduce skill back in. +1 cookie for devs

What do you think is the biggest issue to fix. I assume you are a drugger? :-) well let me refine that. I agree there is a time to drug if you can if it means defending against druggers. but if all things were equal that would be okay and basically a wash to no drugs at all. So why even have drugs. Follow up, look through the games on each server. I'd say 80% are already done either by lopsided score or just one team due to score and all quit. That is because of one sided drugging. That is a lot of wasted gaming and usage of the servers.

Thank you Moreuz

I have been gaming a long time. Enough to know what fails and drug to win fails. And please stop with the " well drug back then" because it is not a valid argument. People have quit games because they can't drug back to match the opponent. However, people don't quit games if drugs aren't allowed. When Lotro online went pay to win it failed, Star Wars, failed, AD&D, failed. Now you're next argument, " I don't buy drugs, everyone gets them free as gifts so it's all equal. Wrong, this is a perfect case of the rich get richer, the higher the rank, the more drugs which makes no sense. And for the record, I have 2 accounts , this one gets 3-4 days a week worth of pro pass or double crystals, the other 4-5 days of double crystals. So maybe it's country based for free distribution. My two friends in the US also get squat for drugs. Next argument, " So you get pro passes use them if you don't like drug wars", unless you are near top rank pro passes are worthless. I don't want to join a freaking 2v2 or 4v4 sandbox game against generals which makes up about 90% of the games. Which brings us back to this. Why must we pay for a pro game but drugs are free? Greed?

No drug update? that is the biggest problem in the game!!!

I keep hearing it is too easy to get 10k crystals a day. Just how is that done buy a working class hero. I cannot play 5 hours a day.

Tanki dev's. Now is the time to decide. Unite or divide the tankers. Fix the drug issue one way or another, You surely must see that drugs are creating a negative atmosphere in the community. So limit the drug use as you have claimed you will do and/or make pro games free to make and join. While your at it , make a smoke screen shell :-)

I keep hearing there is a fix coming, since June. What's the fix, let all the drug haters quit so there are no more complaints?

Yes, what it defines is the overall atmosphere of the game. Drugs drugs drugs. And yes, a response to drugs is rage quit or drug back. I do not buy drugs but apparently most do. I have been in a 100 ctf game where the same guys, both teams included, constantly drugged the whole game. I get maybe 50 or so each a month though recently I got 100 speed pumps in one day. I cannot keep up with most druggers. For 4-5 days a week I get a pro pass ( worthless ) or double crystals. In regards to Pro pass why do druggers not want the pro games to be free? Because those guys are their cannon fodder. I respect that you drug in response to druggers, Nothing like seeing a drugger or two pop drugs and taking both out with a drugged penetrating rail shot.

They have an odd thing called tactics and communication to win. Yes if they are using drugs you have no choice I agree and don't blame anyone for using that. And yes I use drugs to defend the flag ( only against druggers ) and typically end up in the top 2-3 on my team but I cannot dictate our team use drugs to capture the flag. And your first statement defines it all. How can I win with no drugs!!! So I take it they drug in clan tournaments then since they do have winners I assume. So, yes I may have come across as harsh and I apologize for that but it gets frustrating seeing a good game wasted by a rush of druggers. When I first started playing I bought crystals to one, support the game and two to do my M1 M2 upgrades since there was no way I was winning enough crystals for that. Once I realized how druggers own the game I stopped buying in to this game until it is addressed. I know a few others in the same mind set. And as far as pro pass forget it, we all know that is useless for 95% of the players. So, they make Pro games free or they control drug usage.

If you think about most of your reasoning you make no sense at all. "Drugs make the difference in a large fund game"? Maybe I am wrong but if everyone took max drugs isn't it like no one took drugs? Doesn't my armor cancel out your power up? Doesn't my speed cancel out yours? So the game is just as fun to play with no drugs. You guys only like drugs because it makes you better than non-druggers and that makes you think you are good when in reality you lack confidence that you are so drug. Kind of like real life :-) Ever see a lower ranking guy with no drugs charging up the middle only to be one shot? You can bet he developed that habit on drugs. So every time you pop a drug just know inside you are saying you suck.

You guys nuts giving Russians you don't even know your phone number? Read the news lately?

The anti drug system needs to go in soon. It is ruining the game. We have a bunch of crack addicts running around thinking they are skilled players when all their skill is 1,2,3,4 shoot.

Hello, I fairly new to this game and have never been associated with a Tanki Clan but would be interested. I live in Georgia now though lived in Irvine, CA for 25 yrs before this. I typically play a Rail/Hornet/Viking but have an wasp and isilda as well. I need work on turret maneuvering but but make up for it in planning and anticipation. :-) Note: I smoke'em if I got em but I am not a drugger fan. Also, I own a Vent server.

One part he has right is once hooked the drugger longs for that feeling of supremacy. "OMG I am so good I can walk right in to their base and they can't touch me". That being said, any decent team coordination can easily defeat the random drugger especially with freeze which a smart drugger will take out on the way in. It's the team drugging that ruins the game. I have seen games to 15 flags go from 13-2 to 13-15 quickly with just 3 druggers joining. It makes you feel cheated of the time you put in to the game.

Correct, the fault is with the developers trying to make money not seeing the danger of losing core players. I don't begrudge them that but drug money isn't worth it :-). It's a short term high then you lose. Choose the path of core players buying crystals to support game and upgrading garage and advertising. And why not ( as mentioned many times before ) make the pro pass for drug wars not normal. If they have that much money and earn so many crystals from drug games let them buy the pass.

What makes you think buyers are just druggers, I donate $$ for crystals for 1. to show my appreciation for the game and 2. To upgrade my garage. What is making me and my friends considering not to buy is the druggers. A balanced game of skill is more strategic and fun then a burst of fake skills due to drugs. Any M0 can become an M4 with 150 crystals. BS. Those who can't skill, drug. I want to correct myself. I have seen plenty of very skilled tankers using drugs but the point was there is no need to make druggers "God Mode".

You are missing the point. I have the micro upgrades and most any rank can power up and take me out fast. The point is ones who like to rely on skill no drugs have to pay 5k crystals to join a 4 player game but drug games are free. I feel I am being forced to drug to compete which has nothing to do with skill other than balance the numbers. And why are druggers so adamant with no compromise about this topic. Are the straight players your cannon fodder and a source for more crystals and levels? Earn it, don't buy it.

I think one at a time would be an excellent move.

I mentioned this before, screw buying upgrades, buy drugs which are 3-4 times more effective than upgrades. Thus the major unbalance in the game. Druggers are much too powerful at any level.