I'd like to thank everyone taking part in this discussion for keeping a civil tone - I honestly didn't expect that, and it goes to show what's possible for in-game discussion... Off-the-cuff musing: I wonder if some of the frustratuon people feel or the pressure to create new accounts would cease if there was an option, free from crystal expenditure, to create and join drug-free and/or MU-free rooms. Then everybody wins. People would still buy to have the "best" equipment possible, the devs keep their income stream, and ALL players are happy and better matched with one another. What do you guys think, and do you think if enough people are behind this idea, the devs would apply such a patch?

Thunder/Hunter would be ridiculous! I'd mortgage my house for that combo m3.

again, i agree - drugs = bad, but that's not the point. it sounds like you are cool with rank appropriate buying of hulls/turrets. i have a thousand or so of each drug - i hate using them, but if the other team is a "drug team," you do what you have to do. all i can say in my defense is i don't ever draw first blood when it comes to drugging. would you ever consider buying turrets/hulls, say, one rank lower if you had the opportunity - obviously not something ludicrous like 2 ranks or more - but, say, one rank?

I'm not saying the buyers are the ONLY way this ship stays afloat - please don't think that's what I meant. What I meant is that there IS an ancillary benefit to the whole community with the revenue stream. Drugs are a whole other story, and I don't want the thread to get derailed on that topic, because I think that horse has been flogged to death. Why keep flogging it...? I'm talking about weapons, hulls, and MU's, specifically. All things being equal - meaning no drugs - why should there be a stigma if someone who has been playing for ages can NO DOUBT dominate against someone who took a credit card for a spin?

I agree, entirely, TG. If you want to spend the money, spend the money (let the haters hate), and as a result, we get devs dedicated to improving the game, and no ads or garbage like that.

I would suggest not spending her money then, but getting a job mowing lawns to buy all the pixels your little heart desires! Just make sure you develop the skill to use them...

I would call myself someone who has played Tanki long enough to have seen discussion in battles and in the TO forums regarding the stigma attached to buying crystals and buying hulls/turrets, etc. when sales come up. Speaking for myself, yes, I'm a buyer. I buy with pride. I can, and I do, and I have no disrespect for anyone who does. I'm lucky and privileged enough to be in a Clan that encourages dedication to betterment of skills along with doing whatever it takes to enable skill growth with what I've purchased. That being said, I understand the counterarguments other Clans and individuals make - they say you are "buying what skill cannot provide." I simply don't agree with it. The two concepts can go hand-in-hand, and I celebrate buyers! All of you Buyers out there - let's discuss what we've bought, what we're saving up for, and what we wish the devs would make available for purchase! @felony_1 ---------------------------------------- M3 Hornet/Rail Kit M3 Viking/Thunder Kit Full MU's to max on Light Kit 1/2 MU's on Isida and Thunder Full protection against rail w/ Prodigi.

thank god that "ghosting" box is a hoax. it would wreck strategic components of the game. i kind of wish the guy that was working on the "ghost box" spent his time working on hammer paint...

i think this is not only a great update, but very generous on the part of TO to let us have this. let's face it, MU'ing is a revenue stream for TO (much like drugs), but it is a real pain to have to wait so long for the MU to take effect, especially at the higher ranks. this is a great compromise that protects income for TO AND is beneficial to players. it's win/win for all involved. many thanks. ps - can we give the debate over drug updates a rest and just celebrate this one GREAT update?

I tend to agree with people who say that the goal is not to have total accuracy with the tanks in this game. The more accurate you make the tanks, the more people will complain that "a tank with this look could NEVER do this or that." I think the current, Robotech-ish look is much better. It is more artistic, and it goes with the futuristic turrets you have built. You would not want to put a plasma cannon on top of a Sherman tank!