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The Universal Truth About Tanki Online
DaMyAnIx replied to DaMyAnIx in The Universal Truth About Tanki Online Archive
The day before today I was so bored that I decided to come back to this game again, wondering if anything had changed for the better or worse. And well, it's the same old crapfest but with more saturation in the worst features. Having been a player since 2013, a lot has changed. What I realised is that TO has lost the fundamentals that made it enjoyable and fun. It has restricted its playerbase greatly, updates are mostly needless and useless, yes useless. The dev team "fixed" so many issues that made the game enjoyable in the first place. They backtracked on stuff that they previously did. Balancing is out of the window. Copying other games' features is present too. Playerbase rapidly decreasing. Oh well, what hasn't been fixed you might ask, well drugging. Not listening to players, making TO even more pay-to-succeed. The list goes on and on and I am a bit too lazy to continue listing :D The universal truth is that this game sucks. Even more than before. In defense of my claim: Players leaving. When I logged in during the peak of TO my friendlist had many active players on. The last time I logged in only a few were online. As of writing this, only 1 iswas online. There used to be over 100,000 players online before. This is during peak times, it still used to be at the over 50K benchmark or something. Nowadays it is merely reaching 20k. Of course that these numbers won't always be the same, it is normal for such games to lose people. Every dated multiplayer game goes through this. But games like Minecraft, WoT and GTA online still have a major playerbase of nearly 100,000 active players each (at least WoT that I know of). Whereas TO has lost like 50% or more of its active players. Summarised: shrinking active playerbase. So the next support evidence why TO is dying, why it is bad. The forum used to be way more active. Some topics I used to browse had frequent posts. Now the posts are dispersed over prolongued periods of time unless it is a popular topic or a controversial one. People are criticising the game even more than before. Just look at the most useful STEAM reviews :D Summarised: forum inactivity. Updates are getting more and more polarising which leads me to my next point... Developers are incompetent at making a proper multiplayer game or competent at making a p2w game. They add many new features that further change the core elements of the game. It used to be an entertaining game about shooting tanks and having some strategy. What is it now? All of these flashy elements are made to distract kids and attract more underage players. It had major problems like drugging, balancing issues and whatnot. Ever since its peak and introduction of the modules update in 2016 things have been going downhill. People complained, devs didn't listen. They removed kits which gave mX equipment at a lower rank because it was unfair. Then added these kits again after some time, hypocrisy! Hmm what else, the way battles worked was also changed drastically. Nobody complained about making their own battles. After an update, players could buy PRO battle passes and then make their own PRIVATE battles. But they could make regular battles without passes. Still not problematic. BUT THEN THEY REMOVED THE PLAYERS' RIGHT TO MAKE BATTLES ahahahaha. The Matchmaker update came along and it used to be so, so damn bad. A dude my rank playing with players 10 ranks above his :DDD Nice balance. IN THEORY, the pros are that less popular maps can now be put into rotation. Less chance of mults. But guess if that works in practice HA! What was so wrong about the old system that it needed changing? This is one of the features that made TO unique in my opinion. Why fix something when it ain't broken monkey devs? Exiting from this point into the other, the TRUTH is that the devs know what they are doing, I believe so at least. There is no way this is not deliberate. It is evident why they implement all of these changes. Their excuse is that it brings exciting new features in the game. Yes right, as long as they do not undermine the core characteristics. This is not the case due to reasons I pointed out above. It is okay to add new features, such as turrets, hulls and other stuff that are harmless. Animated paints, cool. Some cosmetic options, good. New game modes? Even better. Drones? Eh don't know. But these overdrives, drones, containers, premium shtick and etc. are directly borrowed from other russian releases like Crossout, WoT, Warthunder. Why is it always russian games that are so keen on such means of microtransactions??? The issue is that they made it way more friendly for the games and it doesn't really ruin the basics. Again, with TO now you can get previously rare paints, you have to buy passes to play however you want, batteries for your drone, you gotta stay competitive with drugs. Aaa yes drugs, another fundamental problem that has gotten worse. I've always had issues with their usage in the game. It isn't because I am a noob or anything. My stats prove that I am an above average player but it isn't this that matters. As a matter of fact, all of these stuff are overwhelming and do not improve the gameplay. Only saturate it. Overwhelming is probably the right word as a poster said in a topic. Everything in TO today is overwhelming. Alternativa did no good job at improving the existing issues, maybe this is the incompetency of the developers. Back in the days I used to have pretty nice scores while playing. Even better at lower rank matches, it was still acceptable. Drugs were also not that prominent, still annoying though. Another problem with supplies is that even with the rewards the usage to storage ratio is not positive. You use more than you store in the end. Supply rewards won't last you in a heated battle, even if you manage your usage. The enemy team may drug more than you, prompting you to use them constantly. They have become such an engraved part of the game that casual players or new ones can't reach the levels of the hardcore users and buyers. This is the pool that Alternativa is milking :D Developing my abovementioned points further, I can provide proof that things have gotten worse. Come on, I can suck at times but this is just abhorrent. By the way, the bad stats in the 1st pic are because I tried out the new turret. So look at everyone else's stats I think these 2 images are only a fraction of the current situation. They still provide some useful information. Again, I am not that great of a player but I can take care of myself. Or could, now it is unbearable. You have to waste tons of real currency in order to be good in the Juggernaut mode as well :) The current meta is just impossible to be enjoyable without buffs or dedicating a huge amount of your time to this game. A game that used to be so much better. It is a shame really. The truth is that the devs are milking this game dry off its socks. They know just how bad it is and are purposefully making things worse. The devs are also inept at making it better though. Our feedback isn't worht much. As long as the money flow runs everything is okay for them. It is still questionable just how profitable the updates are because the game used to be way more popular before. Out of my real life friends that played it (around 10) only me and another dude are left. And we aren't even regular players. The question is why change somethin so much? Money! Profit! There are still people that are willing to compensate for their lack of time with money and nothing wrong with that. I would too, but I don't want to waste money on this .... . But then there are noobies that can't turn turrets that still get good scores because they use drugs to compensate for their lack of skill. Lower ranks used to be fun but now the drugging plague has reached them as well. Since their introduction to the game, players are taught how to increase their skill with this simple trick. Have a guy without buffs in front of you? Kill him with 2x damage! Don't use your skill to outclass him. As for balancing, melee turrets such as firebird and freeze are damn OP. They needed buffs but this is just horrible. SOme other points: less maps to play on when in the MM too high prices for such a low quality game. Come on, some things cost as much as a premium tank in WoT. Tanki is way worse than WoT :) incompetent staff that can't do their job properly (see the Complaint Book topic) not dealing with the ,main problems of the game while still trying to get that paycheck ahahaha The game is still an enormous grindfest, you have to battle A LOT to get what you want to and do well There are probably many more stuff I forgot or am not aware of. I am leaving this to the rest of the people that are going to post here. What else could you criticize the dev team for? Here's some food for thought as well. Players like you and me are also responsible for the current situation. Although voicing our disdain against the meta and other injustices, what else do we do? Do we stop paying? I myself paid like 10 dollars in total, I supported this problem with a small sum. We still play this despite our dislike for stuff. Yes, some leave and props to them. This is the way to go. The devs are also at fault because they don't listen to the players. Another problem is that even if they did listen to their players, there are just so many vast and different opinions on one matter, let alone all of them :D We should have clear demands. Clear sanctions. Everyone is to blame for this. But the community is toxic and divided, people accuse each other of being noobs because they drug. "Its in the game bruh" and this is the problem. It should be way more balanced than it is. You are also the problem because you support such abominations. This is why players are rapidly leaving. The game is melting. Anyone with half a brain is able to see this and no amount of apologetic bootlicking can conceal this fact. We are to blame and the devs are to blame. But it is their utmost responsibility to develop the product with quality in mind. Casually explained, this is what Tanki is lacking, quality. It lost the features that made it great, the soul is gone. I do not know how to specify this text. Is it a rant? Maybe. But I did love the game at one point. It is just sad and I deplore the devs for bringing it to its current state. Removing the floor of Madness is a blasphemy. Most decisions are a blasphemy and Semyon was right to leave this trainwreck. I believe many players are in a similar situation. Urgent note to the moderators: If there is a problem with this post, I do not care. I am speaking my mind in a civilized manner as is. If this is removed, then it further showcases the censorship :D Now to the users: Feel free to criticize and discuss. I am certain that this is the truth about tanki. The evidence is everywhere around you. This is why many have stopped playing and new players are not that many. They are halted by the looming thread of drugging and constant grinding for nothing. They are hammered to say so and it scares them off to search for better games. Again, look at the STEAM ratings and other websites. People are vocal about the state of TO. The last thing but not least thing, why did I write this? I don't know. I am frustrated that a game that I adored turned into such trash. People tried to suggest valid improvements, nothin good came out. Should there be a change? Yes. Will there ever be one? No. Tanki Online is slowly dying due to the incompetence of the devs. They won't listen, they won't improve it. They do not care. Most players don't care as well. They just want to dominate by every mean possible and that is what the devs are exploiting. What I can apologize for is the way I wrote this thing. It could've been way better written but eh. So at the end of the day, agree or disagree, this is how things are. Sadly. -
Do you feel emotional/nostalgic when you remember good old days on Tanki?
DaMyAnIx replied to QuicKK in Archive
The last good thing I remember was when low ranks weren't constantly drugging. Now this too is gone :) The day the devs started acting dumb by making useless updates and constant changes without need, without addressing the real problems the game had, was the day Tanki started dying. -
What makes you Mad in Tanki? Things you hate/like in the game?
DaMyAnIx replied to Ditzy-Dip in Archive
The old MM system was way better, you could choose which team to join and on which game and map. Now this new crap is simply a joke nobody wanted nor needed and the greedy debil team that are the devs try to milk everything possible in this whackass ****fest game. Shame. -
Ctrl+V (@Mods To your notice! If something needs removal, then remove it. The following text may contain unfriendly content.) Oh well, I will start by saying that the game has become even worse. I remember the good old times when everybody was able to create a battle, now that option is erased. You have to purchase a PRO battle pass :) I can safely say that the devs can .... off. Hmm, what else? Stop constantly messing with everything in the damn game, for turtlebabduckle's sake. Wherever I decide to play this game after taking a break from it, something is always different. Firebird buffed, Isida nerfed, Dictator has almost the same stats as Viking. Something is always changed. To keep the game's balance you might say, well it gets pretty annoying to see how most of the equipment's stats aren't permanent. What's the point in creating 24 EU servers when you previously decided to make ones for different countries? Couldn't you just make the EU servers in the first place? Logic-none. What if I purchased a turret because I liked how much damage it dealt, then bam, it gets nerfed. Then buffed. Then nerfed again. Make up your minds devs. Drugging is at an all-time-high. Now that you can't create battles, you have to spend more time searching for one that suits you because guess what, these "rank brackets" suck buttocks. I constantly see battles with ranks from mine to Legends. What the heck? Why? I do not want to fight people that are 8 ranks higher than me. Nor do I want to search 30 minutes or so for a good battle. What was wrong with all users creating battles the way they saw fit? I guess $$$ speaks even more than rationality or whatever it is that the devs are smoking. I thought that this game couldn't get any worse, I guess it did.
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What makes you Mad in Tanki? Things you hate/like in the game?
DaMyAnIx replied to Ditzy-Dip in Archive
Oh well, I will start by saying that the game has become even worse. I remember the good old times when everybody was able to create a battle, now that option is erased. You have to purchase a PRO battle pass :) I can safely say that the devs can .... off. Hmm, what else? Stop constantly messing with everything in the damn game, for turtlebabduckle's sake. Wherever I decide to play this game after taking a break from it, something is always different. Firebird buffed, Isida nerfed, Dictator has almost the same stats as Viking. Something is always changed. To keep the game's balance you might say, well it gets pretty annoying to see how most of the equipment's stats aren't permanent. What's the point in creating 24 EU servers when you previously decided to make ones for different countries? Couldn't you just make the EU servers in the first place? Logic-none. What if I purchased a turret because I liked how much damage it dealt, then bam, it gets nerfed. Then buffed. Then nerfed again. Make up your minds devs. Drugging is at an all-time-high. Now that you can't create battles, you have to spend more time searching for one that suits you because guess what, these "rank brackets" suck buttocks. I constantly see battles with ranks from mine to Legends. What the heck? Why? I do not want to fight people that are 8 ranks higher than me. Nor do I want to search 30 minutes or so for a good battle. What was wrong with all users creating battles the way they saw fit? I guess $$$ speaks even more than rationality or whatever it is that the devs are smoking. I thought that this game couldn't get any worse, I guess it did. -
Well, Tanki don't seem to care about their playerbase lol, it is obvious. They didn't rollback this update or even fix it despite most plalyers disapproving of it.
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What makes you Mad in Tanki? Things you hate/like in the game?
DaMyAnIx replied to Ditzy-Dip in Archive
The only reason they are in the game is so TO can capitalize on players that suck without supplies and have money to spend. I'm not saying all druggers are noobs but most are. -
The July 11th Tankopocalypse Saga — Aftermath and all details
DaMyAnIx replied to theFiringHand in News Archive
I don't have a problem with rudeness, that was sarcasm :D Anyway, have a nice day/night dude. -
The July 11th Tankopocalypse Saga — Aftermath and all details
DaMyAnIx replied to theFiringHand in News Archive
Be careful of that edge man, it cuts deeply. I know that some of my creations aren't funny but come on now, some forms of humour are just dumb. -
The July 11th Tankopocalypse Saga — Aftermath and all details
DaMyAnIx replied to theFiringHand in News Archive
Seems like everybody that participated got crystals, I also participated with a lot of memes that were in my humble opinion better than most of the entries and my name isn't there, hmm maybe my memes were too real lol. -
I still wonder why didn't Tanki just separate the paints from the protections in the very beginning. As we see now Flash is capable of that. Instead they kept the protections with the paints for I don't know how many years, it's a lot though. And now they are coming out with this update and they managed to screw it up monumentally lmao. This reminds me of that interview with Bring Me The Horizon where they said they always wanted to do the music on their latest album and never heavier music. Then why make heavier music for the last 10 years? Same logic with TO.
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The wiser thing to do is put angry reactions on every post tanki makes on Facebook. Maybe then they will notice, let's start it mi amigos.
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Hmmm I have an idea! Maybe listen to the community and reverse the update because it is bad and it will damage this bad game even more. Instead make something more logical and useful and fix the game. Here is my SUPER MEGA solution. As a man (or boy) of logic, I must agree with the guy that said "Paints are just paints, paint your arm in blue and shoot yourself with a pistol. The paint won't stop it.". So why not just tie modules with paints while keeping paints the same price. For example, Zeus has the same protections, the only difference is that they are in modules. So let's say you are going to paint your car, the paint is cheap. So you can either buy only the paint or the accessories that come with it. Let's divide paints into basic and andvanced, basic paints can be green, red and etc., the advanced will be the more "bootyful" ones. The "basic" cost 1000 crystals and the "advanced" cost 5000. Even more logically, green and other simple paints can cost just 100 crystals. But if you want protections you can get them with such, so Zeus is 5K without its own, unique protection module and with it it costs 250K, seems reasonable to me. Same goes for other paints. TO can add a feature that is purchased with real money or is earned by missions. That feature is that you can add another module to your paint. So if you buy another protection module to your paint, you can replace the one that is unique to the paint. This can go two or more ways, sellable modules can be equipped to all paints or each paint has a selection of purchasable modules. People that use modules different from the one that comes with the paint will have some icon next to their name. EDIT: I forgot to mention that the paints will still unlock on the ranks that get them unlocked, there is no problem with that, once you reach the rank for Winter you can buy it for 1000 cry without prot or for 100+ K with prot. Now for the premium paint, this one is easy lmao. Why not make it like Eternity, the protection % rises with ranks. Since I am too lazy to think at what rank and how the prot. increases, I will only give an example. At the "noob" ranks the paint has 5-8% prot., at the "less noob ranks" starting from WO5 it can have like hmm, 13-16% prot. and from the "pro" ranks, marshall or whatever, the premium paint is in its final state of 18% prot. like the helper paint, since both parties help the game in some way. Another cool dude figured out something more useful than the R button, we all know its flaws, I don't need to repeat them. Just put the total % of protections against each turret somewhere next to the keys for drugs. In DM it displays the amount of all players except you and in other modes it displays that of the enemy team. Maybe if there is no player with protection against your turret instead of filling the bar just don't display anything. Users may toggle this feature on and off. The final thing to rethink is the reward paints, also easy. Just keep them the way they were, nothing is wrong with them and the players deserved them. Oh and keep the 10% thing on ВР/ХР, I haven't seen anybody complain about that. I really hope that TO reverse this update since it is so badly screwed up. And instead of working on pointless and useless updates that will only effect the gameplay in a negative way, work on removing or reducing the current issues (drugs, inbalance, phisycs, bugs and lag, and mults). I will speak in the devs' language, if you continue developing things that have negative impact, you will lose money. You see, people that buy also figured out your shady schemes and your inadequate ways of earning money. As for mults, AbsoluteZero has a good concept for a system that kicks out mults, but TO haven't implemented this for an unknown reason, I guess they want such behavior in their game lol. I condemn you all to give your feedback on my idea and maybe add some improvements. Other guys also have good ideas, check them out.
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If TO listened to people like AbsoluteZero the game would be in a much better state. I may not agree with him on some stuff but overall he is a smart and rational player. Go check out his ideas before flooding :D I agree that we have to protest but at least do it more subtly. AZ actually reasons his concepts and most of them are good, guess why TO don't implement them? Ding ding ding, ez money!