This is why all clan teams use railgun and dictator. (not those nubs with smoky hornet)

If hes dumb i wonder what that makes you. :huh:

Being able to one shot wasps. A true railgun shaft exclusive thing. rip railgun

Tanki will never add anything in one of the sticky topics. This is the only feedback you need.

Dont have a high account.

Check the timestamp, 19:24 so yes.

Alright then, theres your one effective use of shaft.

So can a freeze ambush, or a railgun flipping them.

Except turning your turret efficiently.

They can be good but theyre never the best.

Probably not going to get the prize because im too low rank tho.

Grilled and dipped in salsa.

Ever?

Of course i cant predict every situation, but if your going to be like that why even bother defending shaft?

For the second its equal. And for the first its 10/10+10/10.

Were talking about thunder being able to single handedly destroy a group of attackers. If the shaft gets help so does the thunder. And at your rank were dealing with m1 wasps, shafts and thunders still. (with the occasional m2 thunder) So now since there are other defenders, lets say a mammoth ricochet sitting on the flag with a few other helpers (an isida titan and a smoky viking that just spawned) firing back at the attack squad (a ricochet viking, railgun hornet, firebird wasp, an isida wasp and an isida hunter). The viking ricochet goes in first, absorbing all the damage while the isidas heal it. The firebird wasp begins to shoot both the isida and ricochet heavily damaging them both. the railgun fires at the mammoth ricochet (its near the back) killing it. The smoky now realizes whats happening and starts to shoot at the firebird wasp. This is when the thunder joins in, drugs a DP and fires a shot. Every tank there is badly damaged, the firebird wasp is killed. The entire attack squad was focused on the smoky, the isidas dont have enough time to manage the health of everyone. The thunder fires again, killing the isida wasp and again badly damaging everyone else in the attack squad. The smoky was firing at the ricochet viking since the firebird died and was able to damage it more before i killed him. The railgun shoots at the thunder but its not enough to kill it. The thunder fires a third time, destroying the ricochet viking and leaving the last isida by itself. The railgun goes in and tries to take the flag but another shot from the thunder leaves it almost dead, it tries to get away but in one last shot the thunder kills it and returns the flag.

My in game experience with thunder shows that it WILL one shot a wasp most of the time and not hornet. Hornet is a slower hull so its less of a threat than a wasp, and AGAIN thunder has splash damage so it will badly damage any isidas in the attack squad. Sure, they can heal themselves back but it consumes energy quickly and they have to manage EVERYONE in the group. Should there be multiple tanks in the squad (like with any successful flag capture) shafts TTK goes through the roof while thunders doesnt increase much.

1. Yes it can. 2. Heavy hulls dont mix well with attack forces because theyre so slow, you shouldnt worry about them. 3. Thunders reload is nowhere near shafts. Again, thunder has group damage which is invaluable to destroying groups of attackers.

All the thunder has to do is use a DP and it will one shot the wasps, a second shot will destroy the rest. Shaft can only destroy one tank at a time and it takes a while to reload.

I think you forgot this topic isnt about shaft.

So there are shafts that can shoot through walls, kill everyone on the map in seconds and arent affected by impact forces?

1. This is untrue as shaft cant get to their hiding place but a firebird/freeze may be able to get them by surprise. 2&4. Leave defending to mammoths and isidas, a shaft cant get everyone if they get to the flag. 3. Massive amounts of damage not enough to one shot a medium or heavy hull, a thunder is able to take out most of an average defense team in a few shots. 5. A freeze ambush will do the same. 6. A railgun can destroy the isida easily and damage the mammoth. 7. Just because it has range doesnt mean it will destroy everything in that range. A shafts aim crumbles against a railgun or smoky.

A shaft doesnt do anything to help the mines as the person who planted them usually hides, any defenders the shaft kills respawn and get back to their spot anyway. (and with a fresh set of supplies) Shaft has no area damage, when a thunder or firebird gets close to the enemy base they can wreak havoc on anyone there and take the flag.

If theres too many shafts whos going to take the flag? Sure, the shaft will help them but so will an isida or a thunder. Anything a shaft can do a mobile tank can do better.

And what if a medium hull or multiple people come? What happens then? A sniper will always be better replaced by an attacker.