i know how you feel I was on the 1/4 part of the players who help each other the other tanks were camping on the falg post and I had to climb them witha wasp to get the falg and capt toi help my teammates when I took the flag (we had 3 shafts) every one was shoting me and when I got to the bridge(sabotage) the 2 best shafts(m1-m2) shot my both corners and pushed me off the clift (there you can see we have a great balance of teamates) and whey just wanted me to lose the point so they get the flag...... I hate those guys they never help, I used the chat command of (/vote *******) but nothing happen and we lost 10(my first and only flag)/200(enemy team) I wasted 30 min with those st***** unhelpful guys and I couldn't do anything cause they were on my team.......But every thing else was great golden boxes on same spot awesome the map But I preffer the halloween map cause it would lokked more cooler as CTF mode but well..... is gone hope someone could ban all of those saboteurs(my dream is to be a chat mod so I could at least ban them for a day for doing that) ...... Bye Regards: FireVulture