I have seen tanks dong really stupid things in the game long before bots were introduced. He has made a lot of posts ? maybe he protests too much about Bots, maybe he is a bot ? I wonder how far are we from bots being on here complaining the humans are rubbish and losing them games.

My opinion is now that bots have reached a decent level of competence ? Tanki no longer needs its original meat bots (also known as free to play players)??. I think there was always a contempt for free to play and even small buyers but they don't need to hide it anymore, they have been replaced by bots. If you were genuinely to explain to someone why to play I can't think of a reason anymore, think it is gone beyond fixable. Strategy, skill, teamwork appear to be gone, long gone. Obviously it is entertaining some people and good luck to them, just not my cup of tea anymore.

I have an old account that I logged back into after a few years because of the account closure notice and started playing with it a little bit lately. It has a mediocre garage, tops out around 7,500 gear score. Because I hadn’t used it for so long I got the usual welcome back stuff, a battle pass and premium. Anyways, it has performed surprisingly well, a little too well in my opinion. I as the player am a constant, the GS9999 account is struggling in most battles, getting one shot killed and knocked around routinely, A Titan or Mammoth should not be getting one shot killed by anything, it’s ridiculous shooting a Wasp 10 times and nothing and he shoots your Mammoth once and you die. But interestingly the account with Battle Pass and premium with a GS 7,500 has not been having that problem. I used to spend a little money now and then on the game so technically I’m not a F2p player but last couple of years I have been a F2P player. But it seems my Garage / Gear Score means nothing if the opposing guy is a current spender. Free to play players just being replaced by bots so you are not even trying to hide your contempt for f2p players anymore. I get it, you need buyers to have a nice experience and feel special but I think you have crossed a line from them having an advantage to actually cheating on their behalf. What’s the difference? Integrity.

@bankas11 I have a decent garage, I don't have all the augments but everything else. I have 9999 in GS and I am getting one shot killed by rail guns and rockets that I know I am dead as soon as it looks at me and I shoot people like a hundred times and they don't die so just speaking for myself here a 9999gs garage is not going to stop you getting bulldozed over in matches. I'm not even sure what it is that enables some teams to just walk all over other teams but it is not just GS score or skills either. There is something else going on in some matches, possible some sort of team nerf or something. There was a time you could say I will defend, forget everything else, i am going to defend like crazy here and you could make a difference, now they just breeze past, bounce over mines, take a hundred shots and fly off with your flag, my point to you is that if you think getting to GS9999 will change anything, I can tell you it won't.

This thread was more enjoyable than a lot of the games I have played on here recently, good job to all who contributed.

I'd say none of the above, the powers that be have been messing around with the game balance for a long time now fixing the things that aren't broke and ignoring the things that are. I'm sure there's a clinical definition for that kind of behaviour but I am not bothered to look it up. How do you balance anything when rank is meaningless and as for the gear, why would a heavy hull be getting 1 shot killed? It undermines the whole point of having a selection of hulls. They can't balance the game because they have made a mess of it. Honestly I think their idea of balanced is you win 2 games and you lose 2 games.

Google did a good job. K/D was great when the goal was to kill your enemies , DM or TDM but really with these other games it is penalising people for actually playing the game the way it is intended and handing them a poor K/D ratio for sitting in the open for siege point, control point or just basically running a gauntlet in asl. Maybe in those games where K/D is not the ultimate decider in who wins the game deaths should not be counted to encourage people to play, you still get your points. Should a kill be counted the same when the guy is trying to run past you in rugby as opposed to DM where he is trying to kill you back? So your Win/Loss system could be good in ASL, CTF, CP, Rugby and Siege as the aim is to win the match rather then simply kill plus it would bring back more legitimacy to having a high K/D ratio.

@Bowser448 Should you quit? If you are asking the question then the obvious answer is yes!! If it’s not fun and it isn’t something that will get you a girl or money then stop it unless it is some sort of charity work !! Tanki is ok, I think people who have been here longer tend to judge it more harshly based on what they think Tanki could have been. My initial reaction was to say Tanki is not a good game anymore but on reflection I think that is a little unfair, perhaps to newer people just finding the game it probably has a lot to offer. It has been going further away from where I would have liked it to go and this account will be the last one I make is probably the fairest way of putting my opinion on the game. Some of the language, “Tanki career” or the “investment”, seriously, Generalissimo is just an indicator that we could have become proficient at almost anything else and that “investment” can be turned off tomorrow without any warning or reason, it’s in the EULA. Not a good investment. That Turret you were maxing out is no longer what it was just because Tanki felt like it or your beast of a Hull is now getting one shot killed because someone in Tanki banged their toe and is angry at the world. So Generalissimo or maximum garage should be nothing more than a consequence of having fun playing the game and not something to be aimed for because there is nothing special waiting for you when you get there, trust me , if anything I think it is more frustrating. It takes 100 hours (give or take, depending on the discipline and your abilities) to go from knowing nothing to knowing more than 95% of the population —enough to make you competent (not an expert), so get some real skills or abilities under your belt. Get back on Tanki when you have time to kill (not invest, just to kill). I play on and off, sometimes more than others and I can’t say I have seen any hacks in years but the way the game is now with so many augments it is hard to keep track of what is going on, what you are being hit with or why your shots aren’t having the expected effect which could both explain your suspicions of hacking but also mask actual hacking, different but the same in a way, you still feel cheated. Personally I don’t do friends on Tanki, don’t have any, nothing against the folks who play on here but I just like shooting and leaving, otherwise I would friend you. I don’t really know how it is possible to be bullied on Tanki, I presume you have them on your friends list because I couldn’t name a single player that has been on my team or an opposing team let alone be able to bully them. Low gear score or low ranks in a team isn’t the players fault, it is Tanki’s fault so let any harsh consequence go over your head. (Unless you use Scorpion then I hope you cry a little, not a lot , just a little ) No one can bully you unless you let them, bullys and want to be bullys everywhere so work on your resilience rather then hoping people become nicer. But good luck on whatever you decide.

This is a big one, I actually started replying that maybe instead of GS score for users we should be getting an EXP score and then I though , oh yeah, that's what a rank is supposed to do ? It crazy they managed to screw up something like ranks ie : experience "earned" I have been thinking maybe something like a half time in battles, have a 1 minute interval maybe give teams a chance to discuss tactics, might be beneficial for newer guys to get an idea of what's needed or let someone say I need someone to help somewhere because i'm getting wrecked on this side of map or whatever, might help bring back team element to the game. Different languages I know but is it that hard to translate nowadays? (It could be I genuinely don't know but might even let people communicate with others of own language, something better than nothing)

@ghost-guns Interesting that you mentioned flawed business model because I was thinking the same thing. But then I thought about it a bit more and think they actually do want people to quit. I don’t have that much knowledge about online gaming but I assume the newbies are more motivated to purchase and get better and build up their gear. Legends more than likely nearly have everything at this stage so spending less but there is a cost to having them on the server which over time probably has a negative return keeping them around. So winning 7 – 0 or losing 7-0 will take the enjoyment out of it and get you to leave, probably why there is no map variety, used to be so many maps. Madness & Noise were cool maps – Noise especially missed. My two cents on why Tanki is where it is right now, Tanki X. Ignored Tanki Online players and their concerns, didn’t care about issues people were having until after Tanki X bombed but by then it was too late , all those huge numbers that used to play had already got fed up and left. It feels like Tanki Online has been on life support ever since, it lost its soul after that. It is when it became a Casino as opposed to a Sport. You used to get a Team vibe back then but now it is a paladin flying at you flashing green like something out of ghostbusters robbing your flag.

Personally I think it is going down hill, enjoyment wise the last couple of changes have been irritating at best. I used to play this and lag was a big problem, tanki fixed lag and it hasn't been an issue for a long time than someone had the bright idea to introduce this stun thing from rail, smokey and striker, the stun from hunter never bothered me but this stun thing with each shot is just glorified lag lag lag, ridiculous stuff. Miner drone that no longer actually keeps your mines after you die, tanki changes the parameters all the time to keep things fresh, which is understandable but you completely made this drone useless increasing it to 30 seconds after respawn, whole point is to keep your mines after you die, main reason you would use it is if you were playing on an under powered team against over powered team (ie your going to die quickly) just bunker in and defend lay down mines. useless now. You nerfed my titan dome and it didn't bother me, whatever, but the miner nerf is just ridiculous, it no longer does what it says on the tin. and you can lay 100 mines too lmao if you using miner and have the opportunity to lay 100 mines without being killed on the respawn than you are using the wrong drone for that battle. I was wondering when will i get floating mines for these hopper hulls you got now but it doesn't matter because miner is frigging useless now. Personally i just think there is way too much variables going on now, maybe all this stuff works if you have a clan and you all have assigned tasks and counters or whatever but in random play for a bit of random fun there is too much crap going on for any real coordination to be feasible. Might be good for clans. Also in battles it is either annihilating the other team or getting dominated by the other team, either way not much fun. If the other team is all mk5 or mk 6 i have no problem with my garage being nerfed for the battle and limiting my gear to mk 5 or mk 6 or let me choose to change my gear, if i have an m0 and i increase it to m1 really the m0 should still be there. Anyways current opinion is I don't know what they are trying to do with the game but I am not impressed with the above changes.

I totally missed that memo, never knew, thought it was just a thermal radar. I used to get annoyed at hornets picking up Nuclear Energy drops in assault and siege, I was thinking let the Titan or Dictator or anybody else pick it up. We don't need thermal radar right now, it's cool but not a priority ? Anyways good discussion, lot of interesting opinions, thank you for clearing that up for me. *** Dusts down Hornet in Garage ***

I was playing today with Titan MK7-20, Vulcan MK7-20, and protection module Shark MK7-15 against a player with Hornet, Vulcan and Shark combo, we both had the same alterations enabled. He sliced through me every time, different ranges and different elevations, I don't think my tank could have exploded any quicker with no protection module. I have noticed this a few times during battles with different turrets where for some reason my protection seems to be zero. It's just today where I could see clearly, all things being equal there is no way a Titan should be losing to a Hornet. What am I missing, is this a glitch, hack or some sort of twisted game balancing going on?