There's no doubt in anyone's mind including the developers by now that the current BP isn't something that will work. Yet we're still here and there's no response. I've personally not purchased this BP just like the last one and I won't until this issue is addressed. Sometimes you gotta compromise. But in this case the compromise is to put in at least 2 hours and that's not a commitment I'm going to make to a game lead by delusional people thinking I'll spend a tenth of my day on the game. You have to be lost to think it's ok to spend this amount of time on a game. No response from the English community manager of Tanki either which is a shame.

@Marcus As you are an English community manager, I think it's ideal for you to bring the opinions from this thread to developers and find a way to solve this real issue. Everyone on this thread has said that the BP in it's current state at 4k stars every 14 days is too much. If you want numbers, it's a minimum of 2 hours per day to complete these challenges to get to level 50 by the 14th day. This is not including daily/weekly missions that are missed, or people who are not able to play for a day entirely. There has been opinions from very grindy players and high scoring players in MM games who are clearly saying that this BP is very hard to achieve without putting in a good amount of hours per day. We shouldn't be forced to put this amount of hours per day to play the game. The whole point of a battle pass in all games is to cater for the majority of players and make them feel engaged regardless of their skill level. The battle pass is the heart and soul of the game you could say. It's what attracts players to the game every day and even if someone doesn't feel like playing too much, they would at least log in to the game and take part in a short daily/ weekly mission and let that contribute towards their BP progress. If a BP comes out that's impossible to achieve for a casual player, then there is no point in taking part in the first place. This is not a F2P vs buyer discussion. Players who are taking part in both the silver and gold-tier battle pass confirm that without having to spend 2 hours or more in to the game, the BP can't be completed. Most players in the game are casuals. As stated by Tanki in the past, very few people in the game pay for the game. I personally feel insulted having to be one of the few who do support the game while paying 3 x more for the privilege. My feelings aside, you can browse the 4 pages of this thread to get a feel for how this BP has negatively impacted players and that it's not the direction the game should go towards. Please do forward our thoughts to developers or the man in charge to get things sorted. This isn't just me, it's all players. To resolve this issue, either reduce the stars down to 3k without changing or increase the amount of stars we get from daily/weekly missions, and from MM games. Even if someone got to level 50 in BP just from dailies and weeklies, it is increasing the player engagement at a healthy level. With the BP at it's current state, players are forcing hours of their in to the game and most likely will give up. It's unhealthy and unnecessary. As a English community manager, please do look in to the concerns of players and help our opinions reach the top of the chain to provide a better gaming experience.

It's 1 hr 45 mins ish assuming you get highest score in every game in all games for the entire time your playing on the game for 14 days straight to complete BP. Most of the developers dont work 2 hours a day on this game. They refer to it as 'Tanki Online Project' as in they don't even see it as a game just do the bare minimum to make it feel like one all while milking out the money from players around the world. All games extract money of their players in one way or another but having this BP being impossible to achieve isn't benefitting the game and affecting the players who wanted to take part in the BP. I was someone who never missed a single BP until now. I'm not working for Tanki, I dont get paid or get any benefit from taking part in BP except purely for fun. But being FORCED to play 2 hours + a day isn't fun. Taking 1500 tankoins or 15 Euros for me to gamble away at this BP isn't fun either. I started looking at other more fun games to play and there are many. Call of Duty Mobile, Runescape and a few others I've tried out. If there are unrealistic expectations asked of me every day from a game, I say no.

Without F2P players playing the game no buyer would touch it. I'd argue this game is not that skill based at all. IMO it's just trial and error when it comes to most game modes but I can talk about that somewhere else as this isn't the right place for it. Especially now with BP giving the better augments at some point, F2P are in for a lot of hurt :/ Agreed, I think those drawbacks could have been addressed if the developers actually made an effort. Instead they jumped ship on to their old game and started increasing MTX on here to increase their profits. Totally agree. F2P players feel like dummies when I play MM. I guess the aim of the game is to make them feel motivated to play by micro upgrading their items and gain crystals from mobile ads ect but make them weak enough so that a heavy drone user can wipe them out. And if they lose a game they'll just blame the game for giving them an unlucky match or strong players and hope the next one will have noobier players than them. This won't hold for long. The 'buyer vs F2P' concept also makes F2P players feel 'superior' or more 'skilful' because they aren't using heavy supplies or drones to get a competitive edge. That mentality would die out as they see there's always buyers in the game and it's really nothing to be proud of. Plenty of other proper F2P games where revenue is only generated through cosmetics for ppl to try it if they wanted. If BP is obtainable without insane amounts of effort it would make people stay imo. Even the free BP is an incentive for players to log in every day but not for 2 hours + everyday. You just can't get away with expecting players to play a lower end game like this for that long.

Didn't know it was like this before but why change it back to something that didn't work in the past. like i said before, not most BP's will be rubbish.. Even EMP Gauss, it's been out for a long time, buyers would have already had it by now. You still need to be a buyer to get the EMP of last week. Can't even begin to explain how bad rubberised round is, it shouldn't even be available in ultra containers, I would'nt even have it come from regular containers, its so impractical that I would be ok in being in the shop and it still wouldn't be as popular as the other augments. But hey, give up 1500 tankoins for pleasure. I don't think this makes sense even from a business perspective. Unless they were hoping there would be enough people paying for the BP to compensate for people who think 500 is ok but 1500 isn't. In other words, they were expecting less people to buy the BP as most people would not justify the price increase, but that would be ok since there would be enough people paying 1500 tankoins and buying stars that it wouldn't be an issue. I don't know the stats, the devs do, but not appealing to the masses when it comes to a battle pass is not something that's ideal. I can only imagine that some investor thought there wasn't enough stars being bought in the shop and without realising the consequence of the increase of those stars, he wanted the sales to rise. Either that or what I said above. All in all, it's affecting most players and it's not good. That was with special missions, I was going to ask you to tell me how you'd get on but I know that its going to take over 2 hours a day for anyone to get a chance to complete BP.

Did you spend 2 hours+ playing tanki on average a day? You gave me specific dates and roughly how many hours but not the average per day. Could you tell me that? I still think you need to spend 2 hr+ to get it. Also good luck getting the BP now without any special missions on the horizon. I think the few people who barely got it last BP will definitely not be able to complete BP unless they spend a decent amount of time on Google calendar figuring out how to divide their time. There are many problems with the BP. High cost of 1500 tankoins F2P only getting one day of premium as BP reward but if someone has 0 premium days they need 2 x the amount of stars to get to level 43. That means spending over 5 hours a day playing tanki to get it? since you need over 2 hours with premium where you get double the stars You don't get much supplies even with the gold tier BP considering how much your paying. Regular containers are irrelevant and useless imo as you get free supplies from daily containers, daily/weekly missions. The only thing you want are from ultra containers and those are the rare augments but still some of those dont suit everyone's playstyle. And I mentioned in the previous page that we would get useless augments too as part of the BP and I was right. Rubberised rounds are available from BP and it seems like they are just giving us the old less less useful ones. But the biggest issue is that it takes way too long to get to level 50 and you have to spend 2 hours + a day to get there. Even if you tolerate the low reward, the crap augments, the long hours everyday that's needed, you still wont finish the BP. It almost feels like it's designed not to be completed, which it is so people end up buying stars.

This was by grinding for 3+ hours like you mentioned in page 1 or two? They are :/

''There are a lot of reasons for that, the main one is that PC gaming market is too competitive and overloaded and it is not possible to make the game popular not only in Russia but abroad as well. As a result, we made a difficult decision – concentrate our efforts on other areas. In general, we would like to mention that the game has come a long way and stayed alive for 3 years during which we have released a lot of cool features.'' The above is what I pasted from their official response. All developers in the gaming industry adapt. You need to a lot more than most industries to excel or even survive. Paints had protections a few years ago and they realised 'skins' were popular so they wanted to see if they could make good money off getting people to buy cosmetics. Then battle passes became popular so they adapted in to copying other games and making their own BP. iirc, call of duty removed a lot of the content in their upcoming call of duty game when they noticed the popularity in battle royale based games. Imo, regardless of what happened with unity they could have changed. By admitting there was too much competition was to admit they either weren't willing to make a nicer game. You don't just give up after one hurdle. They also mentioned that they are going to 'concentrate our effort in other areas'. Guess part of that was to massively increase microtransactions in the current game. There's even talks of micro upgrades of supplies? More MTX. If their own game isn't up to par with the best games, why is tanki charging so much up to 3x higher than the best games for people to play. Main concern is that BP is too difficult to complete. Hopefully something is done about it.

I'd like to think that it's a grind for f2p players as well and the rewards aren't as good. The extra containers and supplies are mainly coming from the 1500 bp and not the free one. Regardless of how good the f2p rewards are it would still take a long time to get to the higher levels of BP. It's not so much about f2p vs buyers vs skill but more about the amount of hours it takes to get the BP which you, I and everyone else has agreed is too much. 2 hours + a day as I have mentioned before is too much both people who invest in the game and those who don't. Again, shows how out of touch the developers are that even the most high-scoring players are having difficult getting to level 50. I did not bother with it at all since I knew I wouldn't get it. Yes, 100% I've looked more in to the pricing of stars and 300 stars which is less than 4 levels is 1690 tankoins. This is disgusting because buying the 1700 tankoin bundle to buy the 300 stars is the EXACT SAME COST as the battle pass itself... BP costs 15 Euros.... buying stars for 4 levels costs 15 Euros. And there was a vlog not long ago saying they have made stars more affordable. If this is affordable I can't imagine how high they must have been before this. Your paying so much money for under-skilled developers who are incapable of creating a good business model but also a decent game. Tanki X was closed because the developers admitted that there was a lot of competition in the industry when it came to online games. That is openly admitting that they have weak, low level developers working in Tanki and also shows they aren't willing to spend the big bucks on getting skilful people in their team to make a better game. Devs shouldnt even be getting a pat on the back let alone getting money from me through stars for purposely making a BP, which is supposed to be fairly easy with decent effort, impossible to finish.

The reason for this thread is to figure out if BP is obtainable for most people and we know that it isn't. From what I've gathered no casual player or someone who spends less than 2 hours a day can get to level 50 and completing the battle pass. I do want to see contradicting opinions to mine while im interested in this topic to see if there is any way the BP can be completed without having to invest a huge chunk of your day every day to get there. Everyone here who's posted has had to spend a large amount of time in the game to get it, including you. I don't encourage nonsensical debates but I do want people to offer their opinions and hopefully something can be done about it.

Name me one other game or a few others that have as little content updates as Tanki and costs more? Aside from an automated battle pass with random rewards (and mostly useless augments), there is only one hull or turret being released and the only thing that is changing are tweaks to turrets, hulls and modules to profit more. For example, introducing critical damage on all turrets. It's nothing new or innovative just a way to nerf or buff current existing items in the game. I do agree with you about devs are trying to make more money but there's only so much you can milk from a decaying cow. It is also the last BP I will take part in unless it's made more convenient. I do hope they see our opinions and value them, taking them in to account. As your someone who plays somewhat regularly and goes pretty hard at it when it comes to mm, would you agree that for a normal player who wants to play casually or slightly more than casually that it would be harder for them to get to level 50 in BP at it's current state. A lot of people have had a huge boost because of the special missions during TO BD but achieving BP should be consistent and not rely on factors such as special missions and unexpected events as such. Also, BP was achievable 6-7 days before its end date but many experienced high-scoring players have had to put a decent amount of work in to get to level 50. I would say that challenges are a good thing. I dont mind time gated content such as BP daily and weekly missions but the effort level required to complete them are not considered at all. Like I said before not a lot of people have the willingness to spend more than 2 hours a day on playing Tanki. The simple thought of having to do so would prevent people to even trying to take part imo. Can you tell me how many hours you spent per day or on average to get to where you are right now? Would you agree that it's difficult to achieve for most players? I feel like because of the long double funds duration many people have played slightly more than they should, convincing devs that maybe it is a good approach. But from my experience after double theres less people and longer waiting times to get in to battles ect. Having said that, you did say you played more than usual which does show that you do need to put a fair amount of hours every day to get to level 50 BP. It does say a lot when someone who has played a lot says they are surprised that they are going to make it to the end of the battle pass. I knew I would not complete before I reached 2k stars. I see people using the same paint they have for a while, the new BP animated paints are only worn for a few days then people switch to what they normally have or something else. That's what I see in battles. I too am not going to buy it again. I hate to be one to deter others from participating in BP as it's not my intention but I know from speaking to a few people that it's a waste of time right now. Sure your getting more supplies than before but your also compensating for that by paying 1500 tankoins instead of 500. This hurts F2P players most but also people who invest in the game like myself who don't see a reason in taking part in challenges when it's just a trap to get you to buy stars. Did you delete the messages on the first page of this thread? From what I remember you said you are set to completing it because you were on your lower level account easily destroying lower level players who probably can't even turn their turrets. Would you agree that this BP is not obtainable for most players? You said you spent 1.5 hours a day playing tanki which is a lot considering you were playing against lower levels and at legend rank or close it's harder to get to the highest score and win games.

I personally don't think someone who gets free crystals through the game should be giving other people reading this the idea that buying stars is a good thing. I would argue that the increase of star purchases in the shop would lead to a decrease in player engagement in two ways: 1. Players who want the BP no matter what will just buy stars when they are nearing the end of the BP period. There is hardly anyone who buys stars which is why Tanki is making BP harder to complete. The reason for having BP is to increase player engagement, just like all other games. But by having the ability to purchase stars your decreasing the player engagement because a player can just buy stars. So what's the point in having a BP as it's just a mouse and cheese trap. 2. Players who will happen buy stars will eventually stop buying them as they will realise it's not good value for money (the worst value for money in the game) and eventually stop playing BP entirely. Eventually stop taking part in daily/ weekly missions. Can't comment on stuff like crisis and how OP it is because I am hoping devs see this thread and are determined to set things right and reduce BP down to 3k stars to cater for the masses or give higher amount of stars per weekly and daily missions so that getting to level 50 requires not too much more effort than doing dailies and spending a few hours in total during the 14 day period that the BP lasts.

Nothing to shout about but getting top 10 in previous leader boards shows how much of a commitment you need to make in order to get a huge amount of XP or stars.. Just because I am capable of reaching top 10 in previous leaderboards when it comes to XP and crystals doesn't mean I think everyone should grind hard to achieve the BP. The BP definitely should not be able to be completed by just the top 100 players. The nature of a battle pass is for all players to participate in it, regardless of their level and skill. I'm looking out for players who aren't capable of getting lots of XP every week like I have done in the past. Just because I can get 4000 stars IF I grinded a good couple of hours per day does not mean other players should do the same because it's not how a battle pass should work. It's up to me if I decide to play 6+ hours a day if I want to or just go ahead and complete missions and log out. Sadly, the point your missing is that no one should be forced to grind 2 hours a day or more to get to level 50 BP. Also what expectations am I trying to live up to? I've said time and time again that for the average player the current state of BP makes it so that it's impossible to complete. You've already agreed that this BP takes grinding in to account so of course it's not obtainable for people who dont want to grind. And when I use the term grind, its a broad term but in this case it's grinding for more than 2 hours a day. No one has proved that it takes less than this amount of time and I would be humbled if someone could show me that its possible. But from what I've gathered I know that it isn't

A lot of hours which shows that you need to invest a lot of hours in to the game to get to the end of BP. We know that it is technically possible but not for most casual people. I mean... I dont think most casual players even use the forums so its harder to get an insight off a normal player or someone who plays casually. Not only are the rewards not worth it at 30 Euro's a month, but its also impossible to achieve. The whole point of playing the game is that you spend less on stars. The way its currently made is that you grind a lot of hours.... almost get to the end of BP but dont... and Tanki scoops in convincing you through the message board to buy stars. It is something to be taken seriously imo. Battle passes in all games are to cater for the masses. Stuff like special modules like the 20-25% protection modules are for winners of esports games are a niche and shouldnt be for everyone. But battle passes are to increase player engagement and creating a battle pass that is not appropriate for the game is unjust. I do wish to take part in BP and I'm sure there are many people out there who don't like this increase in difficulty. I have all augments except new shaft one and I'd still like to participate in BP for the containers and skin containers not in the current state. It's at a point where I wont bother with next weeks BP at all unless you get more stars from completing challenges and missions or the number of stars needed are reduced. Dont torture yourself to get 100 measly Tankoins. It will take 15 weeks before you can get enough for a full BP so your getting less than 4 BP a year at that rate. That's 4.3 hours at the bare minimum to get to BP at your current state. Tell me if I'm wrong. 4.3 hours assuming you get to be at the top of every game and win it. You won't win every game and the decent waiting times and joining games where your on the losing team means it'd take more like 6 hours. Are you seriously suggesting that people should buy stars? I don't think people should fall in to that trap as I think that's the reason why 4k stars were introduced in the first place. To get people to feel forced to buy stars. Just because stars are in the shop doesn't mean players should buy them. If your going to participate in a BP and spend 1500 tankoins, and spend additional tankoins on top of that to reach the end, a player is better off buying regular or ultra containers directly from the shop instead. If your going to gamble on whether you get BP or not, your better off gambling on ultra containers instead. But BP should never have to be a gamble, it should be a garuantee provided you spend a decent amount of effort on it. Not 2 hours + every day. Also I noticed your a forum moderator and you get free crystals for doing what you do? For someone like you, buying stars isn't needed unless your specifically going for rare augments only and idk if your better off spending 15 euros every 14 days on it or just buying containers outright If there was no special missions you would be around 400 stars behind so you'd be at around 3420. As

I have over 430 days of premium days and still find it hard to complete BP so prem is a must if you want to complete daily missions quicker too such as getting 1600 cry in ctf ect. What is the average amount of time per week you spent playing tanki? I dont know if 6 hours was for Saturday and Sunday or just one day. And would you agree that you can't complete BP unless you spend a minimum of 2 hours a day grinding Tanki? That means no parkour battles or XP/BP just MM

Why did you start 6 days late? and 1000 stars to grind within that amount of time means you must have spent at least 3 hours per day. Are you trying to say you spent 3 hours per day playing tanki? 3 hours per day winning every game and being at the top of the leaderboard? Even if you factor in the 10 kills per game it would take atleast 4 hours. Sometimes I feel like regardless of how good you are if your playing solo its a 50/50 whether you win or lose because of how good the enemy team is or if they are bad but using drones make up for it Also if you did not get the stars from TO BD you would not have completed the BP by its end date. What is going to happen the next bp when there will be no special missions? I used to complete daily challenges with 10 days to go sometimes but that was of my choosing. As a gamer, I decide however much time I'd like to spend on a game or if I want to play other games. The need to force me to grab a seat and sit down for 2 hours or more per day for a BP doesn't seem fair.

Why did you mention your main account then? or the one you say you ranked pretty quickly in? That aside, its troubling if the only way to get BP close to being completed is by doing it on a lower level account. And even at that point I feel like 1.5 hours is a lot per day. Considering that you could get all your dailies and weeklies done + easily complete BP in as little as 10 mins per day. I'm sure it would take you longer than 1.5 hours once your second account reaches legend rank and comes across the big bully tanks D:

If it took you 1.5 hours a day to get that many stars on a second account which is a lower rank, then it must have taken you longer on your main account which I assume is Legend or close? If your saying you ranked up pretty quickly with premium on your main account then that means it took less than 1.5 hours a day on your higher account which isnt as easy as playing on lower level accounts? Even with premium I find it hard to comprehend that it took you under 1.5 hours with premium to achieve BP, let alone achieving it 'pretty quickly' How many hours did you spend on your main account and can you tell me what else you did to get to 4k stars? and How many days did you complete it in? Not trying to have a go I just wanna know how the few people who have got to the end of BP got there.

You mention that you skip a few daily missions which is only human and that seems to be something the developers can't understand. There's no reason to force people to play Tanki every day. You get your 5 a day healthy eating and some people pray 5 times a day. Now here comes Tanki wanting players to play their game religiously minimum 2 hours a day. Your at level 45 after the huge amount of stars you got from TO BD special missions. For those 2-3 levels per day you got, that's including you grinding hard or go home like you said. As someone who has been in the top 10 in weekly leaderboards often I know that with the current state of BP its extremely difficult to acheive. You might achieve this one by grinding a good couple of hours a day and having extra stars coming from TO BD special missions, but it isn't something someone can do regularly for every BP. Also in case you dont know the stars are a rip off intentionally so people who are lets say 4-5 levels away from getting to level 50 on the last day are forced to buy the stars to get the skin container. How many hours a day did you spend getting to level 50 so quickly? I think you must have spent at least 2 hours a day. If your telling me you didnt, can you explain how you got it? I also have completed the special missions as well has doing all my weekly and daily missions. I still worked out that I can not complete the BP. I could of course get it if I grind a good couple of hours a day, but that should not be the case for anyone. I also have EMP Gauss. I fear that people like myself and others wont even buy the BP knowing that its going to be a gamble whether they have time or not to grind a tenth of the day on the game. 2168 stars including special missions from TO BD. Without that boost you still need to grind over 1.8 hours of tanki at the very least to get it. I'm sure you can agree that playing 2-3 games per day or playing casually won't get you to level 50 and grinding too many hours consistently every day will? No chance is the best term to describe the possibility of completing the BP for a normal player. Even if your games are 4 mins or even half the lenght of a normal battle, that is not factoring in the possibility of you losing, or someone who is yet to complete special missions and are going hard at it using heavy supply drones and the long waiting times to enter battles too. Also does not factor in that matchmaking system will enter you in to a game where the score is 0-3 in ctf and theres 2 mins left till the game ends. Or A large map like Berlin or Lost Temple where your competing against loads of players to get to the top. Would take way longer than 3 hours if you factor all that in but I usually don't because it gets confusing for most people to understand. So I just say a bare minimum of 2 hrs per day. Working a little bit harder is one thing, but waking up to think of a game plan on what you can spend little on during the day to invest more in to Tanki is something completely different. I would not describe grinding excessive amounts of time for an underwhelming set of battle pass rewards as interesting. It's stressful and deters people from buying a BP in the first place because it's so hard to complete to begin with. Even if you get EMP Gauss right now, A lot of battle pass augments will include underwhelming ones like the ultra container only smoky augments which aren't as good. Your only getting a few extra containers and supplies. You can do without those measly rewards and save your self almost 400 euros a year or 30 euros a month. Regardless of the rewards tho, BP is something that is supposed to make you engage more with the game instead of just seeing a few crisis player on enemy team and quitting for a while then coming back. It's an incentive to keep you playing the game. If the challenges are impossible to complete then it's not going to convince players to take part in BP and therefore reduce the amount of regular players. It's not about no lifing imo. I myself have spent over 6 hours a day at times grinding tanki.... because when im free or feel like it I WANT TO. But when I don't want to play Tanki and want something more fast paced like Call Of Duty mobile, then nothing is going to force me grind a game im not interested in when I dont want to play it. Not surprised, it's not going to be obtainable which I am sorry to say. Unless you spend over 2 hours a day, which I have said multiple times, it's just not worth even buying BP in the first place. Is 1.5 hours a day accurate? That would be to say that at the very least you have won every game whilst being at the top score to get where you are. Even then I've not done the math and feel like it would have taken you longer. I say this because it is under my 2 hours a day basis which I got from figuring out how many stars u get from weekly and daily missions and how much stars u have left to grind after that. It's only worth it for the skin container for me as I want to unlock all the skins. But even then its silly because Hopper XT, Crusader XT and Ares XT are not in skin containers? So even people who open skin containers after unlocking all of them are not going to get those skins and are instead going to get a small amount of tankoins now. Just more reasons not to participate in BP which is a shame because I have never missed a BP until now from when I first started. gzz@!@~#'1@!!@! xd

This does not compare with what I come up with so feel free to let me know what you think. 2 x weekly missions is 900 stars 14 daily missions is 2100 so both make up 3000 stars you need 1000 stars left to get to 4k so that's 166 mm games at 6 stars per game assuming you get highest score 1000 / 6 stars = 166 mm games required , and around 24 hours in total or 1.7 hours per day. Taking in to account that you wont always win every game and having bots on ur team and not being in first place will mean itll take over 2 hours a day at least. if I am wrong then do tell me. Even at 2 hours a day it's a lot just to complete the battle pass. Players are getting negatively affected in two ways; paying 3x more than before for something thats impossible for ordinary players to complete and also forced to buy stars to get to the end of bp. Does the average tanki player spend two hours a day playing tanki? I dont think so. I'm assuming you must have played more than two hours a day to get that. My point is that BP isnt possible to complete for anyone who isnt willing or has the time to put in more than two hours a day. The special missions from TO birthday has definately helped but most weekends dont have special missions.

How many hours did you play? it would give a good idea as to how long it would take and how much effort is required to complete it. Can you tell me your math? From what I've concluded its impossible to complete unless your putting in atleast 2 hours a day and that's assuming you win every game and get 6 stars whilst being at the top of the leaderboard. How many stars are you at right now?

How many hours a day have you put in? From what I gathered, it takes around 2 hours per day + completing 2 week's dailies and weeklies cashed in to get 4k stars. No BP should have to that grindy imo. idm the cost as your getting ultra container augments included in the bp now which you sometimes dont get in over 300 ultra containers. But I do agree that its an absolute grind-fest and takes way too long even for grinder players than me to achieve.

With the new bp requiring 4k stars, It'd be interesting to see who has completed the battle pass. Before the new 4k stars bp it could easily be achieved in 5-6 days of grinding and completing dailies and weeklies but now I am someone who has never missed a bp and play often yet am still over 1500 stars away from completing it which is the first time since I started buying bp. I personally wont be taking part in dailies and weeklies with the bp being so difficult to achieve. The rewards from weekly containers and daily missions are minute and not worth the effort to begin with. The only saving grace was receiving stars which counted towards bp which was just an additional incentive to do them. Are you also having difficulty in completing bp or are you flying by?

Battle Pass at 4k stars every 14 days is too much. Before this update, it was easy to get skin container by playing few hours and completing daily and weekly missions. Now with 4k players need to play 2 hours or more every day. 2 hours a day assuming you get top score on the leaderboard every matchmaking game. Yes, we do get more supplies and rare ultra container augments from battle pass now, but were already footing that bill by paying 1500 tankoins which is 3 x more than it was before. Much more graphical and popular games with way more frequent content like Call of Duty Mobile and Genshin Impact does. BP in Euros is almost 400 Euros a year for BP or 30 Euros a month for 2 battle passes. You can't have it both ways. You cant expect players to play and engage by through BP but then make it much harder to achieve so that people end up buying stars. Casual players can not complete battle pass right now unless they grind over 2 hours a day every day which just isn't possible and forcing that on your average tanki player isnt fair.

I think there are huge disadvantages of using dictator that being able to get points from it is quite okay. It’s a very large hull so much so that tanks using shaft can hit damage it by locking on to the tip of its weapon whilst its behind a wall relatively easily. It’s also slower compared to the medium hulls and it’s not easy for a dictator/isida/mechanic user to keep up with other hulls in ctf scenarios. Another thing is that by gaining points for its overdrive it’s promoting being team player. If you enter match making battles you’ll notice a lot of players aren’t a team player. They will use magnum or shaft or just camp or treat ctf like a tdm and run through a health kit box while the guy behind you is after it and you don’t need it. I use dictator Isida often and it isn’t the most fun at times trying to support the team but no one else is making a team effort so I decide to. IMO it’s also considered score farming when one team rushes 3-4 flags, captures them and then just defend for 5 minutes. That helps them build a huge score and result in a massive amount of crystals while the other team just waste their time and enemy team are just building up their rewards. Something like this can’t be tweaked because in a way all games are designed to be score farming. When your using mechanic your using up batteries and also not using offensive drones like booster or crisis which are even bigger score farmers in the right situation. All in all it’s not a big deal.