[POLL] who thinks isidas suck?

[ZMH00 1]

Player ZMH00 has been warned for ignorance of warnings

[r_Queenz0 0]

nothing new, i love hwo he deletes post after he knows he's been quieted down... now ban us adn show your superiority!!

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

._. ^ She talks too much~

 

On-Topic: Isida is NOT for noobs :P

[r_Queenz0 0]

see, there you go again, starting problems, i have a reason to talk after you can't finish what you start, keep your senseless posts of my topics next time and i won't say anything

 

On topic, isidas are the worst weapon

[ZMH00 1]

._. ^ She talks too much~

 

On-Topic: Isida is NOT for noobs :P

On-Toic: I still remember what you said " All isida are ******s " when i used isida m3 and vk m2 :hunf:

[Alkline 16]

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[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

see' date=' there you go again, starting problems, i have a reason to talk after you can't finish what you start, keep your senseless posts of my topics next time and i won't say anything[/quote']

 

I'm pretty sure I put all the sense in the world in my first post in this topic. No matter what happens you will hate the Isida for one reason or the other.

 

Firstly being that it will always steal your fund,

Secondly being that if it doesn't steal your fund it'll be called a mult.

 

There is no discussion with ignorant people. You lost the argument at "Wall of text, ignored"

[Alkline 16]

Can't you two lover birds kiss and make up ~ :wink:

[r_Queenz0 0]

wow, this topic is based on opinions, everyone is entitled to them, i posted my opinion, and everyone has their right to post theirs without personal damage.... like you have done

 

I said "WHO (key word) thinks (another key word) isidas suck?"

 

if i didn't want people to post their opinions, i would have never made a second option for people to choose that they like isida in the first place

 

Once again, i hate isidas

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Can't you two lover birds kiss and make up ~ :wink:

 

What does that have to do with the argument at hand? Kindly stay on topic.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

wow, this topic is based on opinions, everyone is entitled to them, i posted my opinion, and everyone has their right to post theirs without personal damage.... like you have done

 

I said "WHO (key word) thinks (another key word) isidas suck?"

 

if i didn't want people to post their opinions, i would have never made a second option for people to choose that they like isida in the first place

 

Once again, i hate isidas

 

No queenz, Here is the poll.

 

 

The first option is calling it a sewage, and the second option is calling yourself a coward. This thread was never, and never will have a neutral opinion. I stick to my Initial point, I do not think Isida' suck but I would more than love to know "why" exactly you think they suck. This game would be a lot worse without them.

[ZMH00 1]

There are a lot of complaints in russian section about isida point .MANY guys hate isida for getting a lot of points just for healing good rating palyers.A lot of guys says " isida leave" as soon as they join to battle.And....

 

Just few guys who use isida and who want to ignore this topic think Isida is awesome.These guys never ask isida to leave from their team ? :roll: I didn't hate isida before many noob isida stole my fund many times.I played 6 hours and they caught my point then passed my points within one and half hour.So should i say "Great thank for healing me/saving my life" ? :D

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

There are a lot of complaints in russian section about isida point .MANY guys hate isida for getting a lot of points just for healing good rating palyers.A lot of guys says " isida leave" as soon as they join to battle.And....

 

Just few guys who use isida and who want to ignore this topic think Isida is awesome.These guys never ask isida to leave from their team ? :roll: I didn't hate isida before many noob isida stole my fund many times.I played 6 hours and they caught my point then passed my points within one and half hour.So should i say "Great thank for healing me/saving my life" ? :D

 

All right, Kozayya. You have all M3 right? Nearly? You said that clearly in your clan page. What if you were that Isida who just wants to get a good tank/weapon? Take Coolone for example. You guys harassed him, insulted him and pretty much did everything to him? He's now in clan trainings against you guys. Just use your brain for a moment and think.

 

I believe you said the truth when you said "DD doesn't like isida because DD earns crystals" Those Isida' are earning crystals as well. Just by helping you. How many times did you return/capture a flag just because an Isida was healing you? That Isida saves you 15 crystals every few seconds given if you buy drugs from your earned crystals.

[soIdier1994 0]

I hate isidas!! They always heal me and get to first. I use rail and hornet and when I take over noob battles, they heal me and get to first even though I can win without them. My rating is 90k at warrant officer 3 while most isidas my rank are over 150k. Isidas only heal people with higher rankers or ratings to be first. And switch to isidas to get fund even though they have other tier 2 M3 weapons. They just want fund. :evil: :evil:

[ZMH00 1]

All right, Kozayya. You have all M3 right? Nearly? You said that clearly in your clan page. What if you were that Isida who just wants to get a good tank/weapon? Take Coolone for example. You guys harassed him, insulted him and pretty much did everything to him? He's now in clan trainings against you guys. Just use your brain for a moment and think.

 

I believe you said the truth when you said "DD doesn't like isida because DD earns crystals" Those Isida' are earning crystals as well. Just by helping you. How many times did you return/capture a flag just because an Isida was healing you? That Isida saves you 15 crystals every few seconds given if you buy drugs from your earned crystals.

There are a lot of good earners who don't use isida.Take phituankiet for example.He even has not isida yet.He got nearly all M3.So how he earned crystals with other weapons ? There are a lot of rank limit battles that play with weak tank and weapon.Spend time as other guys do.Spend drugs as other guys do.Joining strong drugger team,healing and stealing their fund is not ethical way.I call it cheap earning.Sometime these isida even make their team lose. :thumbdown:

[ZMH00 1]

I hate isidas!! They always heal me and get to first. I use rail and hornet and when I take over noob battles' date=' they heal me and get to first even though I can win without them. My rating is 90k at warrant officer 3 while most isidas my rank are over 150k. Isidas only heal people with higher rankers or ratings to be first. And switch to isidas to get fund even though they have other tier 2 M3 weapons. They just want fund. :evil: :evil: [/quote']

Teach noob isida how to earn crystals with rail .I agree your word that "switch to isida to get fund even they have other weapons.They just want fund."I already saw many guys like this.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

There are a lot of good earners who don't use isida.Take phituankiet for example.He even has not isida yet.He got nearly all M3.So how he earned crystals with other weapons ? There are a lot of rank limit battles that play with weak tank and weapon.Spend time as other guys do.Spend drugs as other guys do.Joining strong drugger team' date='healing and stealing their fund is not ethical way.I call it cheap earning.Sometime these isida even make their team lose. :thumbdown: [/quote']

 

I'm not saying that all Isida "players" are good, I'm saying that "Isida" is good.

 

I have nothing to say about the players, nothing at all. It varies. I know that I use Isida differently as compared to cablaz or Coolone, they have their own priorities, I have my own. The problem over here is "generalization" Some Isida players are bad does not mean that all Isida players are bad. I agree, M1 Isida M0 Hornet in a full on Marshal level Silence game is just asking for insults. But the problem comes when you blame an M3 Viking M3 Isida that is drugging to be stealing the fund. They honestly do not steal the funds. They earn the fund.

 

Final conclusion on my side: If someone Isida players are bad it does not mean that Isida is bad. Just the players.

Solution: Make games with rank limit.

 

I will sleep now, Thanks for your time. And remember, one bad guy does not mean everyone is bad.

[ZMH00 1]

Well,nice discussion.I also saw some good isida who wait point for others,who drop flag for others,who even restart their point for other.In general,I agree isida is good weapon.We even need to use isida in drug war.Drugged isida is dangerous weapon in drug war.It save other drugger's life.Just bad people make isida to be worst.Isida is good when player use it for help,not for stealing other fund... 8)

[r_BLASTOISE-T120 241]

lol' date='...wheres that cat eating popcorn pic in a time like this? :lol:[/quote'] :mrgreen:

[jordanrusson 3]

Here we go, thanks Blasty. :XD: I could do this on every topic with walky and queenz with seperate points :D.

[r_DieGO.mAraDonA0 4]

You guys harassed him' date=' insulted him and pretty much did everything to him? [/quote']

 

Kindly stay on topic please. No personal attacks. Consider this as a warning leading to you being branded as a hypocrite. :lol: :lol:

 

Anyway, even I "misused" isida to rank up quickly. The point here is that with Isida there is a scope of cheap and unfair play. Although, some people use it wisely to be an ethical healer and not healing the flipped over tanks to get useless xp and undeserved crystals. It is well known Isidas are used for unfair fund stealing in 90% cases. Me, being an extensive buyer, don't give a penny's sh!t to fund. However, what I do care about is that the main motivation for using Isida is to steal fund rather than be a good medic. Imagine if Isida didn't get 1.5 times the points, will it still be such a popular weapon? No effing way.

 

P.S: A wise man said; "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." :lol:

[SaIvation 46]

Imagine what "No-Supply" battles would be like without isida? There would no need for "No-Supply" battles then wouldn't there?

...since when are isidas liked in no-supplies?

[r_ELain_3S0 17]

Firebird (at lower levels) is just OP!!!! Twins and smokys knockback is OP, cheap weapon!!! Thunder can do splash damage and hit you without being seen, so coward!!! Ricochet can bounce its charge, OMG CHEAP!!!! Rail has infinite range, Shaft has OP damage, this suxxx!!!! Freeze can stop and circle killing you, ASDSGHSJKA!!!! Isida steals found!!!

 

You can make a topic about how every weapon sucks because is op in a certain situation. Like kool said, it's all up to the player. Anyway, next time you're capturing a flag you can tell your isida "gtfo and leave me dying alone", but not everyone has infinite healthpacks.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Kindly stay on topic please. No personal attacks. Consider this as a warning leading to you being branded as a hypocrite. :lol: :lol:

 

Anyway, even I "misused" isida to rank up quickly. The point here is that with Isida there is a scope of cheap and unfair play. Although, some people use it wisely to be an ethical healer and not healing the flipped over tanks to get useless xp and undeserved crystals. It is well known Isidas are used for unfair fund stealing in 90% cases. Me, being an extensive buyer, don't give a penny's sh!t to fund. However, what I do care about is that the main motivation for using Isida is to steal fund rather than be a good medic. Imagine if Isida didn't get 1.5 times the points, will it still be such a popular weapon? No effing way.

 

P.S: A wise man said; "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." :lol:

 

I understand your concerns with my post. But it was completely on Topic.

 

I know you used Isida to rank up quickly, so? What's wrong in that. The point is that Isida does not need to be removed from the game. Doing that would be stupid after all this time. Even I heal flipped tanks from time to time, what else would I do with a full charge in my own base at Kungur? In most of the games where I played, the top ranking Isida always helped win the game one way or the other. Even if it has been in a game since the start it always helps win the game.

I understand how you don't care about Isida' not getting points, but wasn't it you who said that Isida in wars is rubbish? Yes, we're talking about the capability of the weapon now instead of its flaws.

 

...since when are isidas liked in no-supplies?

 

Depends on the map, They're not liked in Tribute because of the close spawn positions, they are so close that Dying and Respawning is faster than getting healed by a Isida while waiting for it to charge.

[kingeoin14 30]

Isida on "1-2-3-4" is certainly overpowered, as I found out today. Here's what happened (Map = Sandal II)

 

I use M3 Thunder and M2 Mammoth. (No paint against Isidas, it was either Electra or M3 Thunder) this guy on the enemy team had M3 Isida and M2 Viking. He was drugging to get our flag. So I drugged to get it back. I hit him SEVEN times! He just kept healing himself! He made me blow up with my own splash damage.

 

Either drugs are overpowered (dumb question) or Isida is. True, they do 'steal' funds, but they keep King here alive..