shaft is overpowered

[YourMoma 16]

Shaft is not overpowered, you are just noob.

 

Case closed

 

 

Yeah, what he said! :thumbup:

[r_chaos120 1]

ill throw in my last cent. shaft is definitely not op at all. get better skills get a robotic arm and get an additional 1 IQ and see the results.

i own an m3 shaft and have a constant ratio of abt 5-10 :P even if i try my best someone just drugs and ricos/freezes me from BEHIND

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly 1]

 

And I'll tell you what is really overpowered... a drugging M3 Mammoth with M3 Freeze at close range. :D

 

the topic should now change to M3 Mammoth with M3 Freeze is overpowered :mrgreen:

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkkC5ABcxVU

 

Shaft is not over powered - The user is

 

Battle is a no supply Kungur game - And for the noobs, the unseen (yellow) paint is Champion.

[BCEM_BCTATb-OMON 4]

As an owner of an M2 Shaft, I will say that the Shaft is not overpowered at all unless you're blindly rushing into them over and over again (like on Silence, I snipe the same people popping up over and over again trying to get a shot at me).

 

It has an extremely slow turning rate which can annoy any Shaft user, and if you're familar with basic flanking and strafing skills, a Shaft is no worry at all.

 

If you can't beat them, join them! Just buy a shaft, learn its strengths and weaknesses, and you'll learn how to do with them.

 

Oh, and if you're at a high enough rank where other people's Shafts can kill you in a shot, then you probably have enough crystals to get Jade or some other paint with protection against Shafts. No excuses.

 

And I'll tell you what is really overpowered... a drugging M3 Mammoth with M3 Freeze at close range. :D

 

Wait till u get m3. Slow turning doesnt matter at longer ranges. Its not that easy to gain a shaft flank in some maps. After all they have a team. So u actually need a paint to be able to deal with them? "a DRUGGING m3 mammoth anf m3 freeze at CLOSE RANGE" deugs obviously make stuff op and its just as bad as mammy shaft m3 on drugs except that u dont cap, u wait for ppl to cap then u zap them.

[jomalley 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkkC5ABcxVU

 

Shaft is not over powered - The user is

 

Battle is a no supply Kungur game - And for the noobs, the unseen (yellow) paint is Champion.

wow defending the base like a boss

[r_iknat11 1]

I think the video speaks for itself. Koolwalky I'm not drinking the Koolade. Nice scope.

[r_CaptCannon0 1]

here's something that may change how you think about shaft being overpowered.

 

earlier i was playing capture the flag battle on serpuhov, 10 each. both sides with serious high rank players from Major to Marshal, except for me the only second leutanant :mrgreen:

my team was on the high side packed with 4 shafts(3 m3s and 1 m1) and 2ricosm3 1isidam3 2thunderm3 1railm3. the other team had some heavy guns as well..

we were leading by 4 to 0. 15min before the game ended, a brigadier joined in on their side he was packed with ricom3 vikingm3 on zeus paint. this rico dude changed the whole battle around!

he came in fully drugged captured flag after flag with shafts all shooting at him and somehow he managed to escape! ofcourse he was helped by some isidas and rails as well but he was the main player. in the end, they won the game by 11 flags to 5! all because of that one ricom3!

 

heres what i learnt from the game no matter how big the guns are on the opposing team if u got the skill no one can stop you and not even 3 m3 shafts!

 

so shaft maybe overpowered but it is the skill that will change everything 8)

 

Being all drugged up does not require skill at all. It's just an advantage where you have doubled everything from armor to firepower to speed. That's not skill at all. Sorry, but I disagree, but your point is well taken. A heavy tank with the right firepower, drugging and paint can be a turn around against any type of tank.

[r_CaptCannon0 1]

Jade is completely useless against shaft, and it's not worth its cost... I have a Jade and Viking m3, and shaft still take over half of my health with its zoom damage, so I'm an easy prey for whomever is nearby, or for his second shot... And if two or three shafts are present in the game - well, let's just say you might as well be naked, and fighting a whole rugby team by yourself.

 

So no, solution is not a paint of any kind, or at least none of the paints we have now on the market. What is needed is a paint that could shield at least 70-80% of zoom damage, or a more permanent solution - zoom damage has to be reduced.

Again you with your smart ideas? If you wouldn't had jade you would be killed with 1st kick.

So now I with shaft I should demamnd jade should be removed? Or thunders' splash efect should be removed? ... or... Or ricos hits may not bounce...?

If Shaft is not covered with another weapon (especially isida) is mostly completely helples if you have enough skills. But seems you don't have.

 

Second - as Micky3 wrote you

You are looking only at the damage per shot. It's just not that simple.

Get shaft and rule the game ... if you can.

 

PS! For shaft most of the tanks on the battlefield are invisible ...

To illumuinate you: - angle of shafts view (sniper mode - only that has that "kick") is about 10 degrees. You (all other weapons) have about 60.

You can move when you aim and shoot - shaft can't. More I won't help you. Grow up and get skills!

Good player never complain about shafts - they are able to kill them. M3 shaft is quite decent weapon, with M2 shaft is really difficult to survive if skilled players are in game, anything below M2 is burden, not a weapon.

 

As a Shaft owner, I agree with his comments. I've not seen many people even refer to the fact that the real role of the Shaft here is as a SNIPER in the view of many players, not a run and gun combatant. You can use it that way to an extent, but most people use it in a sniping capacity. The Shaft can be powerful, but it has major weaknesses. All the whining and complaining here is really beyond reason. Each type of turret and hull has its place. Your job as a player is not to whine and complain, but to use your head, be a smart player, use some strategy and for heaven's sake use some team play. I see way too many players who go at it as if the game is all about them by themselves and get blasted to smithereens or get in the way of other players and just over all destroy the game. If you would take a few moments to cooperate and coordinate a bit, you might find this game to be a lot more fun. As a Shaft owner, I do run into players that do not make it easy to use a Shaft. So I change weapons and come back into the game if things get that bad and I can still make up for any loss of crystals. The thing to remember is that this is supposed to be fun. If we spend our time whining and complaining about each others weapons, that's to no avail. Just an opinion.

[r_CaptCannon0 1]

^see its harder to take down a shaft

 

the weak ones are quite easy to take down. the ones with hornet/viking hull of m0/1

but it is harder for the high ranked shafts with m3 mammy on protected paints. m3 shaft can kill weak hulls in 2-3 tap shots(not full charge)

i once killed an m3 mammoth shaft by placing a mine right behind his tank and nudge his tank jst a bit. he turns around KABOOM! :twisted:

 

hahahaha, very inventive, ingenious! I really enjoyed that!

[eessydo 17]

Most shafts usually require more than one unit to attack it to take it down. The first unit being the fodder, the second (third, fourth) unit being the shaft killer.

 

Many teams on blue in silence rely on shaft to hold down an entire side. It only becomes an effective strategy when red allows it to happen because INDIVIDUALS are scared to get whacked by a shaft gun.

 

If you toss away the individual mentality and start being a team player, you will see how quickly you can break down shaft defensive structures and how many flags you can grab in the process.

 

In kools video, if two (preferably three) team mates attacked at the same time instead of waiting around, kool would have died and more than likely be sent to the other side of the map for a respawn, that defensive position would have broken down and they would have been susceptible to a flag grab.

 

SWAT teams don't attack one member at a time, they go in as a force and overwhelm the target. Because of shafts slow reload time and the problems associated with targeting in sniper mode when being shot at, it has some serious weaknesses that you can exploit as a group.

 

At some point, if you truly want to be a good player in this game, you need to toss away the me and I attitude and start thinking how you can benefit the team as a whole.

 

Your actions will be rewarded in crystals.

[r_Micky30 4]

...At some point, if you truly want to be a good player in this game, you need to toss away the me and I attitude and start thinking how you can benefit the team as a whole.

 

Your actions will be rewarded in crystals.

It was 100% true until this -- being a fodder isn't rewarded in any way :?

You can do it few times, but if it becomes a habit (being good teamplayer) your teammates get the reward and the glory, not you.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[jomalley 0]

you know u just remebered another overpower rather than the twins, the smoky xt if we could get a m0 or higher shaft to face off against the smoky xt possibly the xt would win if the person using it has very high experience using it or the m3 shafts scope mode would destroy it who knows wish i can see it happen for myself

who agrees with me on this????

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

I wasn't going to make this so I just joined the first game I found that had some Shafts in the enemy team :P

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=576zg5imGDk

[r_belege0 41]

I wasn't going to make this so I just joined the first game I found that had some Shafts in the enemy team :P

 

 

Kungur is an open map.

Do that in silence if you can.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Kungur is an open map.

Do that in silence if you can.

 

Been there, done that. Read the whole thread. I can do that in Silence but the map is considered a "noob's choice" in my books. The only time I actually play in Silence is if it is with my clan.

[eessydo 17]

It was 100% true until this -- being a fodder isn't rewarded in any way :?

You can do it few times, but if it becomes a habit (being good teamplayer) your teammates get the reward and the glory, not you.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Depends on what you view as glory. Could they get a few more crystals than you, sure, it is possible.

 

All I know is that if I am facing down an M3 Zeus with an M3 or M2 shaft gun with my rico, I am more than happy to get them to fire at me to allow my team mates with thunder to take him out.

 

Once the break down occurs, and the jail break is on, you have just as much a chance to come away with the flag as anyone else.

 

Finding a way through is the important piece and if you happen to not have the equipment that counters the problem, better to give your team mates a shot at solving the problem than just having everyone sit around with their thumbs up their _________.

 

Your other option is to lose and get nothing. I'll always take something over nothing.

[r_Micky30 4]

It was 100% true until this -- being a fodder isn't rewarded in any way :?

You can do it few times, but if it becomes a habit (being good teamplayer) your teammates get the reward and the glory, not you.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Depends on what you view as glory. Could they get a few more crystals than you, sure, it is possible.

...

Hey, I'm not arguing against teamplay :)

Just you mentioned the reward ... what reward did you have in mind?

 

The more you die for team (taking shafts shot isn't the only way) the less crystals you get from the fund.

And by glory I meant, that after game some guy claims to be better player because he has higher score -- 've seen those :)

[r_CaptCannon0 1]

I wasn't going to make this so I just joined the first game I found that had some Shafts in the enemy team :P

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=576zg5imGDk

 

LOL!! I love watching your videos!! You do such a great job on the battle field and I love your run and gun tactics! Well done and very instructive!

[yonsneg 0]

I wasn't going to make this so I just joined the first game I found that had some Shafts in the enemy team :P

 

there were some wannabe shafts with reflex of dead horse... That one didn't even shoot on you if I saw right. They let you walk too much.

[yonsneg 0]

Most shafts usually require ...

 

At some point, if you truly want to be a good player in this game, you need to toss away the me and I attitude and start thinking how you can benefit the team as a whole.

 

Your actions will be rewarded in crystals.

Do you really need to tell everything? We have enough smart players to cope with... :( Live us some dummies for cannon-food :P

[yonsneg 0]

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with my M3 Thunder ...

I'm really pleased to hear, that there is at least one M3 thunder I don't have be afraid of :wink:

Otherwise all these M3 thunders are real pain in ass, I'm not pro enough to determine quickly where they are shooting from.

You right. But has nothing to do with pro. When you are in scope-mode you only notice that you've been hit, if shooter is not in your view. In second hit you can determinate angle where does it come from (if you are good)... and third shot you are dead.

[yonsneg 0]

yes becoz mammy shaft is the most expensive combo' date=' sheer cost of m3 shaft and pretty much only makes it available to buyers. But shaft is encouraging camping and that makes games dull and boring. Shaft isnt invincible, it just takes more effort to take down becos of its one hit KO which requires a sacriface and some teamwork and more skill[/quote']One buys weapons, other drugs.... You've found right answer on your writting - If play is dull, it is because of selfishness of players.

[yonsneg 0]

I can only believe that your alleged success is due to the fact that you play with noobs. Maybe it's because nobody notices a creepy little Isida Hornet and they have more valuable targets. He's probably concentrating on something that is shooting at him.

If you talking to me... This little creepy isida is usually on the top of the list and usually seems all opponents have desperate wish to kill me. But it's the way how to sneak behind their backs. Btw, iknat1... what is more important target than carrier with stolen flag? :P

[BCEM_BCTATb-OMON 4]

shaft doesnt just make it boring for the enemy team, playing shaft is boring too, just a stupid wait game and a test of patience