Game Mechanics Problem

[Paxorf-C 0]

Stats from my last battle:

Map: Polygon

Game Type: DM

Kill limit: 999

Battle Fund: 1238

Reward for winner: 827

Percent of fund to winner: 67%

D/L ratio for winner: 17.5

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As you may have guessed, this was a battle dominated by one drugger. He just sat up on a ledge killing everyone, and it was nearly impossible to take him down. Everyone else playing had an incredibly difficult time getting kills, and so many of us banded together to beat the one jackass. But even with half of the field united against this one dude, he still dominated. Needless to say, everyone but the drugger was really pissed off.

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So my simple question is: Why does Tanki favor a select few (druggers) at the expense of the majority (normal players)?

The obvious reason is to collect money, but there are many ways games can get revenue without breaking the game mechanics. Even other free to play games, like TF2, World of Tanks, and virtually every game at sites like miniclip.com manage to raise money without ruining their games. Why can't Tanki do this?

Edited October 14, 2012 by Paxorf-C

[BillD2O 4]

I agree with you.

 

Prepare to be attacked and insulted by the resident trolls.

[cheap_plastic_flower 154]

Stats from my last battle:

Map: Polygon

Game Type: DM

Kill limit: 999

Battle Fund: 1238

Reward for winner: 827

Percent of fund to winner: 67%

D/L ratio for winner: 17.5

 

 

I think I played in that one for a while, Paxorf. I didn't mean to freeze you. It was an accident. You always got between me and the other guy. LOL.

 

I drugged for a while, got some points, and got out. I always have access to plenty of supplies; but it has reached the point where drugging is the RULE rather than the EXCEPTION. One is always "drugging up", rather than enjoying the game. The Drug Wars have gotten as boring as the rest of Tanki.

 

Bill is correct. Prepare for the trolls, the misinformation, and the comments about buying a No Supplies Battle Pass. They would be great if there were any "real" battles in the list. Tanki should make at least two battles on each server reserved for Free No Supplies Battles.

 

Here is the really scary part, Paxorf. Once you get into the higher ranks; Tanki gives you enough "free" supplies most nights to stayed drugged for an entire game. LOL. Their logic escapes me.

 

Good luck. Rank up quick and, unfortunatley, join in the Drug Wars with the rest of us.

 

Here is an old pic. Check out my Isidia numbers. The D/L is about as low as it can get. Then check my score!!! It was a short battle for me. I just came to have a good time. I could care less about rank, points, and D/L's. I owe this good time to DRUGS. Ahahahahaha.

 

 

[Paxorf-C 0]

I think I played in that one for a while, Paxorf. I didn't mean to freeze you. It was an accident. You always got between me and the other guy. LOL.

 

I drugged for a while, got some points, and got out. I always have access to plenty of supplies; but it has reached the point where drugging is the RULE rather than the EXCEPTION. One is always "drugging up", rather than enjoying the game. The Drug Wars have gotten as boring as the rest of Tanki.

 

Bill is correct. Prepare for the trolls, the misinformation, and the comments about buying a No Supplies Battle Pass. They would be great if there were any "real" battles in the list. Tanki should make at least two battles on each server reserved for Free No Supplies Battles.

 

Here is the really scary part, Paxorf. Once you get into the higher ranks; Tanki gives you enough "free" supplies most nights to stayed drugged for an entire game. LOL. Their logic escapes me.

 

Good luck. Rank up quick and, unfortunatley, join in the Drug Wars with the rest of us.

 

Here is an old pic. Check out my Isidia numbers. The D/L is about as low as it can get. Then check my score!!! It was a short battle for me. I just came to have a good time. I could care less about rank, points, and D/L's. I owe this good time to DRUGS. Ahahahahaha.

Yeah I guess I'll have to join in the drugging. Good news is I've been saving up my drugs, and now I have 200+ of each. :D

Though actually the battle in question was on my current noob account (staff seargant), so I didn't have any stored up drugs to fight this guy with. At higher ranks non-buyers can compete somewhat, but at lower ranks there's absolutely nothing you can do but accept defeat. Pity too because most people are naturally going to quit Tanki at lower ranks, and having drugger problems then will cause many more players to quit. Another reason why I question the logic of the developers.

[wertweuri 76]

No supplies (NS) is your key against any such druggers. ^_^

[Paxorf-C 0]

No supplies (NS) is your key against any such druggers. ^_^

But there are barely any of those, and they're all dominated by high ranked players. And there are absolutely NONE for very low ranks (below WO1).

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Make friends and play NS battles with them.

[Paxorf-C 0]

Make friends and play NS battles with them.

So the developers have to rely on the players to fix their own problem? Seems like a pretty bad solution. Especially since there's no infrastructure to communicate with friends via Tanki.

[SilentShadow 104]

Drugging is one of the unique aspects of Tanki, however if you find yourself unable to combat the drug lords, then you should head to the smaller servers where people are much less likely to drug.

 

Personally I favour the servers in the 10s to 20s, since it is a bit more peaceful there most of the time.

 

Otherwise, you can fight fire with fire...save up drugs from your daily bonus (but never buy drugs, it is a waste of crystals, unless you are buying crystals as well)

Once you have perhaps 100 of each drug, then you are ready to battle, and maybe you yourself could become one of the drug lords that many people fear.

 

Either way, you MUST save drugs, otherwise you will be destroyed in higher ranks!

Believe me, I am a Brigadier, and almost all matches I join include drugging to win, on all sides.

Take this warning without a grain of salt, and good luck to you.

[BillD2O 4]

Once you get into the higher ranks; Tanki gives you enough "free" supplies most nights to stayed drugged for an entire game. LOL. Their logic escapes me.

 

Either my rank's not high enough (Major), or I'm in different drug wars, because what I get as the daily gift won't last for a battle.

 

I've seen druggers on the opposing team, down dozens of flags four minutes before the nightly server restart, happily drugging away with no chance to win. The highest reward on that team was 15 crystals... Another player told me about a drugger in a DM that he attacked, with two seconds left in the battle, and of course the drugger drugged up... Its just completely out of control, to the point the game should be renamed 2-3-4 Online.

 

The game itself is brilliant. When you find that gem of a battle that's not full of druggers, its one of the best games I've played. Sadly, Tanki isn't a game where you can test your skills. The player that spends the most money on supplies wins, end of discussion. If the other team outdrugs my team, I lose. If my team outdrugs the other team, I still lose. My drugged teammates gain score at a much higher rate, and my reward is less.

 

I see posters mention buying a NSBP every time this topic comes up. Have I earned enough crystals to purchase one? Yes, many times over, but that's not the point. Creating the supply problem, which puts players who can't afford a NSBP at a massive disadvantage, then having the gall to offer the NSBP as the solution (for a price) is just unbelievable. The fact that there are almost no NS battles on the servers is probably because a lot of players feel the same way I do about it. I won't pay, even if I can afford it, for the privilege of playing free from a problem created by the developers. Let people who want to drug, and I'm sure many do, play together. Let the rest of us play free from supplies, for free if at all possible. I like the idea mentioned earlier, of a few free no supply games on each server. Making no supply battles free for 2-4 weeks, as a test, would be another option. Its too bad neither will happen; the developers seem happy with the situation they've created.

[GeneralVeers 697]

Guys, the game itself is a drug. when I first checked it out, I was hooked by the sixth kill.

I personally don't drug unless I have to.(like to break through a line.)

I will drug just before I take the flag, but I don't always make it out. Druggers are a fact of the game. they bug the crap out of me.

but most times I'll stay till I'm fed up, then look for another game.

 

And By the way, Who the f*** stays in a game for 999 kills and sees it through to the end? :rolleyes:

 

just throwin' that out there -_-

Edited October 15, 2012 by GeneralVeers

[Paxorf-C 0]

Personally I favour the servers in the 10s to 20s, since it is a bit more peaceful there most of the time.

That's good to know. Most of the time I'm on server 2, perhaps I'll change.

And By the way, Who the f*** stays in a game for 999 kills and sees it through to the end? :rolleyes:

 

Well I joined part of the way through. Though there were less fortunate souls who had earned a few hundred kills before the drugger came, only to see their reward drop to almost nothing.

[Paxorf-C 0]

Hmm I wonder if anything will actually come of this thread. Probably not, since the developers don't often take ideas from players (that feedback page is soooooooo dead). Oh yeah, and they're russian.

[SilentShadow 104]

That's good to know. Most of the time I'm on server 2, perhaps I'll change.

 

If you hate drugging, then you definitely should change, because servers 1 and 2 are home to the largest druggers in the game!

[Alklines 1,751]

Play some No Supplies battles, bummer that most games are played by high ranks.

[cheap_plastic_flower 154]

If you hate drugging, then you definitely should change, because servers 1 and 2 are home to the largest druggers in the game!

 

I agree SilentShadow. I have gradually moved from 2 to 4. Even the No Drug Polygon on Server 2 is now an ongoing Drug War. Server 4 usually has a good crowd and a large variety of battles. They also have lots of open slots in them. And I may be wrong, but the LAG doesn't appear to be as bad. I love the new update, but I never had problems with lag until the last one. I hope they get it fixed soon. Since you mentioned servers between 10 and 20; I do recall that they have a large crowd on the weekends. I think I will try it.

 

I still think that Tanki should set aside and entire server or at least two battles, whatever type, as FREE No Drug Zones. It is apparent to everyone that the NSBP is a failure. I have never used the free pass, nor have I ever entered a NSB. The few I have seen are just ... BLAH.

 

999 minutes !! I agree with GeneralVeers. My finger tips begin to get numb after thirty minutes. Join the game. Have some fun. Leave. Let the Druggers have it.

Edited October 16, 2012 by cheap_plastic_flower

[tankcalm 324]

Servers 10-20 aren't competitive as servers 1-2. play there is usually boring, with or without drugs. This is on average, of course.