twins is TOO STRONG

[splitterpoint 10,986]

You know what the problem is splitterpoint, before the rebalance you were mighty with M3/M3 at Lieutenant. Now you're just as good equipped as any other player your rank. I play with Generalissimos and I still enjoy myself, because I have M2/M2 and a good paint now, and I had the same before.

 

No, it's because there are so many rustle users... and not so much thunder users; while I'm still a thunder.

[CooperO 7,956]

I still see lots of Thunder users.

 

domxxe, I'm using Mammoth, Hornet, Freeze, Isida, Thunder and Railgun M2 and Rustle.

[Jayjey419 41]

You cant move your tank towards a twin weapon.. you either back out or hide, or get killed.. with double power it's like wth... it's so the one that's most OP:/

[splitterpoint 10,986]

You cant move your tank towards a twin weapon.. you either back out or hide, or get killed.. with double power it's like wth... it's so the one that's most OP:/

 

+72000

 

Either remove twins completely from this game or nerf it down by 700%

Same with isida.

 

Ohh and make Rustle more expensive and avaible at commander.

Emerald should be avaible at generallisimo.

[r_by880 6]

you dolts stop turning this into an isida and thunder discussion

[Dihos 2]

I guess this is a pay2win game now, with the high prices. Before, it was easy to get M3, so it wasn't pay2win... What gives, Tanki?

[I.D0M 601]

I guess this is a pay2win game now, with the high prices. Before, it was easy to get M3, so it wasn't pay2win... What gives, Tanki?

So earlier you got an m3 weapon and then what? Get the rest of 700 000xp till marshal without any upgrades for your weapon? Now the game became better but weapons like twins/isida have to be slightly modified

[KiwiZaphod 53]

Okay so far we have (across a few threads)

• twins is to strong
  
• smokey critical hit is too powerful
  
• freeze is too strong
  
• rico is too weak, takes too long to recharge
  
• thunder is no good anymore
  
• isida is too strong
  
• shaft is underpowered and no good anymore
  

Three things from this:

1) not many have tried the new firebird yet - wait for the thread!

2) lots of people are trying new things, and they are winning (and not whining!)

3) If you know how to use it, then it is "business as usual" for the Railgunners....

[KiwiZaphod 53]

I guess this is a pay2win game now, with the high prices. Before, it was easy to get M3, so it wasn't pay2win... What gives, Tanki?

Wasn't "pay to win"? Funny how a lot of the threads are complaining about the "money they wasted" on Tanki then, and all the old threads we had about "druggers ruining the game"

Based on what I have seen in the last few weeks:

• Rank-unlocked weapons/hulls/paints no longer give you dominance; skill with a given combination weapon counts a lot more now
  
• Buying rank quickly gets you into battles where non-buyers can take full advantage of your lack of skill
  
• M3 prices means that buyers have to spend thousands of dollars for advantages that drugs/skill can overcome
  

[I.D0M 601]

Okay so far we have (across a few threads)

• twins is to strong
  
• smokey critical hit is too powerful
  
• freeze is too strong
  
• rico is too weak, takes too long to recharge
  
• thunder is no good anymore
  
• isida is too strong
  
• shaft is underpowered and no good anymore
  

Three things from this:

1) not many have tried the new firebird yet - wait for the thread!

2) lots of people are trying new things, and they are winning (and not whining!)

3) If you know how to use it, then it is "business as usual" for the Railgunners....

Smoky critical hit is not overpowered since it is rare. Freeze is not overpowered and ricochet is perfect when used with tactics and skills. I got a 71/29 score while being an attacker without drugs in silence.

[KiwiZaphod 53]

Smoky critical hit is not overpowered since it is rare. Freeze is not overpowered and ricochet is perfect when used with tactics and skills. I got a 71/29 score while being an attacker without drugs in silence.

Fully agreed!! I was just laughing at how some many people are struggling post-rebalance rather than learning how to play the game under the new rules.

Good skills and understanding the +/- points of each weapon, hull and paint is still important.

As I commented on a different thread, you can easily tell (here and in battle) who *fought* their way up to a high rank, and who *bought* their way up.

[Dihos 2]

Are you people stupid admit it. Old Tanki was the best. Then came this rebalance and now we see low ranks with Shafts, Thunder, Freeze, and and Ricochet!!! These people do not have any experience in using the weapons its like handing over the latest tech to a novice!!! And basically since all weapons are GOING to be equal, the buyers just screwed themselves. Too bad you people can't figurebit out. Now if you excuse me I am going to play some Battlefield 3, which is worth every penny and actually DOES MEANINGFUL UPDATES AND PATCHES.

[I.D0M 601]

Are you people stupid admit it. Old Tanki was the best. Then came this rebalance and now we see low ranks with Shafts, Thunder, Freeze, and and Ricochet!!! These people do not have any experience in using the weapons its like handing over the latest tech to a novice!!! And basically since all weapons are GOING to be equal, the buyers just screwed themselves. Too bad you people can't figurebit out. Now if you excuse me I am going to play some Battlefield 3, which is worth every penny and actually DOES MEANINGFUL UPDATES AND PATCHES.

If you would have some brain, you would understand the rebalance. But for now just shut up and quit the forum like you quit the game

[Dihos 2]

No use trying to defend the rebalance. Accept the facts kid

[Beerme 106]

Ricochet is a lot worse now. If used well it is good but a bad isida is better than a good ricochet..

Twins should be nerfed a bit and i think isida is not op because of the range. Any freeze can beat it and a firebird can counter one as the burning damage counters the heal. I personally would like if Rico's recharge speed is increased as then it can beat an isida relatively easily due to the knockback.

A ricochet when used with skill and tactics is very good but still is not too good. Shaft has been decimated but to be honest the rebalance is not bad. Also regarding the wide use of thunder, thunder prot paints are a necessity.

It is still awesome :D so enjoy tanki. If you do not like the new changes well deal with it.

Edited January 2, 2013 by Beerme

[Dihos 2]

Darn I'll never deal with it

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Rico was overpowered before the rebalance... this is karma you're experiencing now. :mellow:

And ohh my; how much the shaft got nerfed... I love it!

 

Wish there were no twins and Rustle and emerald users so I can peacefully play with thunder.

[KiwiZaphod 53]

Are you people stupid admit it. Old Tanki was the best. Then came this rebalance and now we see low ranks with Shafts, Thunder, Freeze, and and Ricochet!!! These people do not have any experience in using the weapons its like handing over the latest tech to a novice!!! And basically since all weapons are GOING to be equal, the buyers just screwed themselves. Too bad you people can't figurebit out. Now if you excuse me I am going to play some Battlefield 3, which is worth every penny and actually DOES MEANINGFUL UPDATES AND PATCHES.

It turns out that just calling people "stupid" when they don't agree with you is a particualrly weak form of argument and seldom gets anyone to agree with your point of view.

Still, carrying on with the same old tactics and complaining when they no longer work effectively does seem to be a bit of a theme in these post-rebalance threads :)

So for the record, a few "facts" (or perhaps opinions) for you:

• I'm not stupid, I just disagree with what you have to say
  
• I enjoy the challenge of developing new tactics to beat "hopeless situations" which is why I play Tanki.
  
• I like the fact that skill is now more important than "buying rank" (directly, via cheating, or via drugging)
  
• Part of "equalling out" the weapons/hulls is to make it *easier* to add new hulls/weapons without balance problems
  
• I'm enjoying appling my skills and knoweldge to adapting to the new game play
  
• If you are struggling to understand the new Tanki, perhaps starting afresh with a new account may help.
  

[r_by880 6]

Hey Dihos, they do hand the latest tech to the novices. Join the Army.

[Dihos 2]

It turns out that just calling people "stupid" when they don't agree with you is a particualrly weak form of argument and seldom gets anyone to agree with your point of view.

Still, carrying on with the same old tactics and complaining when they no longer work effectively does seem to be a bit of a theme in these post-rebalance threads :)

So for the record, a few "facts" (or perhaps opinions) for you:

• I'm not stupid, I just disagree with what you have to say
  
• I enjoy the challenge of developing new tactics to beat "hopeless situations" which is why I play Tanki.
  
• I like the fact that skill is now more important than "buying rank" (directly, via cheating, or via drugging)
  
• Part of "equalling out" the weapons/hulls is to make it *easier* to add new hulls/weapons without balance problems
  
• I'm enjoying appling my skills and knoweldge to adapting to the new game play
  
• If you are struggling to understand the new Tanki, perhaps starting afresh with a new account may help.
  

[r_by880 6]

Hmmmm where have i seen that before...

[Dihos 2]

Just borrowing good ol' kilaz's pic. Problem?

[CooperO 7,956]

Kiwi, I like your thinking.

 

And Dihos, when you could use those guns for the first time, YOU had no experience in using them. Now the players can just use them a bit earlier, but you get experience by using a certain gun a lot, not by being a higher rank.

Then came this rebalance and now we see low ranks with Shafts, Thunder, Freeze, and and Ricochet!!! These people do not have any experience in using the weapons its like handing over the latest tech to a novice!!!

[Farhan05 2]

Isidas now can get xp both for healing and killing. That is too much overpowered

yep u r right. if tanki change isida only into healing then it should be better. it scores easily thousands with 1 or 2 destroyed(only if it is stay at it's base) somtimes it stay at it's base and keep on healing and scoring. this is too damn overpowered :angry: ad while destroying it also recharge and really hard to destroyed with freeze but possible with m1 freeze to m0 isida , m1 isida with wasp or hornet. (i m telling this be caz i freeze user :D )

but tanki should do somthing with this overpowered isisda

[r_by880 6]

Me and my team we had all Freezes and Thunders and Shaft. On the enemy team they had the same. It was pretty even and going nowhere fast. Then, one m2 Twins joined. That was it. We lost 10 flags to 1.