Tanki update 123 discussion is now officially censored

[r_sys491520 0]

It amazes me to see how many companies have failed just by doing the same mistake over and over - not listening to their users. Would you give money to such company? I wouldn't. Fee free to voice your opinion (at least until this topic is once again banned). Just because of this attitude and because of the level of rudeness here I am not coming back. I may be only one user less but I'm sure you will get a fair share of people leaving.

[doteko11 0]

I totally agree with you. They tell us to discuss but when they see negative replies only they get scared and lock each topic

[Scribo 167]

Agreed. +1

[SuperNick95 5,312]

The company is happy to talk to the players whenever they want and to assist them in everything they need. That's why we have discussion topics too.

Unfortunately in this case the topic was abused by players

1 - Who were all asking the same questions without reading the replies previously given

2 - Who were creating other accounts (we can see player's IP) to say pointless and not constructive replies such as "We don't want update it's bad" without giving any reason to support their opinion.

 

Of course the topic was closed -> It went from discussion to flood, and this was not accepted.

 

Although, closing this topic was not enough to stop the flooders and as you can see they all are making new topics with the same questions and sometimes even to insult. It seems that no one really wondered why the discussion topic was closed and that everyone is jumping to the bad conclusions.

Now, if you want to discuss what I just said, I will leave this opened, but I warn you - As soon as I see that we are falling once again in the situation explained before, I will close this and all the further topics discussing the company's actions.

Edited February 14, 2013 by SuperNick95

[splitterpoint 10,986]

I will close this and all the further topics discussing the company's actions.

 

You should close them straight away, and make one for discussing it.

[SuperNick95 5,312]

 

 

You should close them straight away, and make one for discussing it.

In fact no topics about this should be left opened, but I didn't close this one just to clarify things and make sure that you all understood what I said.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Yeah, well; I think they will get used to it, and stop the flood over time.

I don't like the update either, but complaining is useless... the rebalance didn't got canceled; when people complained and made topics about it.

Edited February 14, 2013 by splitterpoint

[r_Astlavista0 0]

Yeah, well; I think they will get used to it, and stop the flood over time.

I don't like the update either, but complaining is useless... the rebalance didn't got canceled; when people complained and made topics about it.

NO it not going to stop it may have calmed on english forum but not on russian people cannot live with it because it not possible to play for free.

[Guest]

NO it not going to stop it may have calmed on english forum but not on russian people cannot live with it because it not possible to play for free.

In fact, if you go see russian topics, they complain like here, but not that much players since a good amount of them can understand what is done for the good and the future of a huge game along with a huge Community!

 

They complain, but keep on playing since they like their game and like their Community.. They can understand that updates might stay un-accepted for a while but after some time they will be accepted since they will show the purpose for what they were done at first..

Edited February 14, 2013 by Guest

[wishness 10]

They promised us 10x crystal relate, yes they multiplied every thing except in battle fund. As recent battle I played in which was ctf with 100 flags, my team won this battle. I had 2000+ points only receiving 980 crystal from 1800 battle fund, that's literally 180 battle fund in old system, for 1 1/2 hrs game! Oh well, that's fair. I accepted this update was being made, but kinda of disappointed and wasted my increasing experience point relate to crystal salary ratio.

[FederalBureauFBI 2,881]

Before the rebalance, the game economics were engineered to allow a last rank standard player (1 000 000 exp = Marshal) to have amassed enough crystals (through crystal bonus drops, battle fund and daily gifts) to buy an M3 weapon and an M3 hull without spending real money. This is still the case, since we have 3 more ranks, instead of working out the game economics formula using a standard marshal, we have used a last rank standard player (1 440 000 exp = Generalissimo). This explains the difference in the "experience vs battle fund" growth difference after the update 123.

[CaptainSensible 0]

I hope that people can express themselves provided they do so in a polite, reasonable manner. Sometimes we do repeat ourselves but it is a measure of the strength of feeling.

[gocac 17]

The company is happy to talk to the players whenever they want and to assist them in everything they need. That's why we have discussion topics too.

Unfortunately in this case the topic was abused by players

1 - Who were all asking the same questions without reading the replies previously given

2 - Who were creating other accounts (we can see player's IP) to say pointless and not constructive replies such as "We don't want update it's bad" without giving any reason to support their opinion.

 

Of course the topic was closed -> It went from discussion to flood, and this was not accepted.

 

Although, closing this topic was not enough to stop the flooders and as you can see they all are making new topics with the same questions and sometimes even to insult. It seems that no one really wondered why the discussion topic was closed and that everyone is jumping to the bad conclusions.

Now, if you want to discuss what I just said, I will leave this opened, but I warn you - As soon as I see that we are falling once again in the situation explained before, I will close this and all the further topics discussing the company's actions.

this is not true. go and have a look what players asked them to remove 123 and you will see that most of them are high ranked players protesting the sum of the crystals.

[Skobby 6]

Before the rebalance, the game economics were engineered to allow a last rank standard player (1 000 000 exp = Marshal) to have amassed enough crystals (through crystal bonus drops, battle fund and daily gifts) to buy an M3 weapon and an M3 hull without spending real money. This is still the case, since we have 3 more ranks, instead of working out the game economics formula using a standard marshal, we have used a last rank standard player (1 440 000 exp = Generalissimo). This explains the difference in the "experience vs battle fund" growth difference after the update 123.

But people want more crystals so they can have more than 1 weapon or hull, rarely would you come across a player who only has 1 weapon and 1 hull.

[wishness 10]

this is not true. go and have a look what players asked them to remove 123 and you will see that most of them are high ranked players protesting the sum of the crystals.

The only way to protest for more battle fund, is by large number of total players stop playing tanki for at least a week. Same for sports, jobs etc.

[cookiemonster321 37]

Just be quiet!!! Ok? No one cares!! In the time it has taken you to complain you could have gotten 100 crystals or 1000 (like the new system)

The fact that you want more battle fund tells me you are lazy and dont want to work for it!

Edited February 14, 2013 by cookiemonster321

[gocac 17]

Just be quiet!!! Ok? No one cares!! In the time it has taken you to complain you could have gotten 100 crystals or 1000 (like the new system)

The fact that you want more battle fund tells me you are lazy and dont want to work for it!

(insult here)?! what is the point of this game? i will not go across the map for a boy of 1 or 10 crystals. we want to work for it. if you don't like the topic, leave it. after an hour battle you will recieve 200 crystals and that is 1 health box and 1 nitro. good luck with that.

[wishness 10]

Just be quiet!!! Ok? No one cares!! In the time it has taken you to complain you could have gotten 100 crystals or 1000 (like the new system)

The fact that you want more battle fund tells me you are lazy and dont want to work for it!

More battle fund? Obviously yes! Work hard for it? Obviously yes. Look at this, old system: 3hrs battle with lieutenant rank would produce around 2000 battle funds that would be 20,000 with X10 system!! Now: it only gives you crappy +/- 4000 BF crystal which is 400 BF in old system!

From now on, I'm only collecting bonuses without participating battle till they fix it, which I should pretty much have enough drugs by then.

[r_Otto_I0 0]

I will close this and all the further topics discussing the company's actions.

And again I was lied to by someone with forum Avatar who kept saying that Consultants cannot close topics and do not do Moderation work.

 

In fact, if you go see russian topics, they complain like here, but not that much players since a good amount of them can understand what is done for the good and the future of a huge game along with a huge Community!

 

They complain, but keep on playing since they like their game and like their Community.. They can understand that updates might stay un-accepted for a while but after some time they will be accepted since they will show the purpose for what they were done at first..

 

The Russian Topic has over 3300 replies (before it was locked) and you tell me those arent complains and they just keep going? This is NOT for the good of the game this is clearly a rip off.

Also calling something a bug which is even planned as feature is just to rip us off more!

 

Before the rebalance, the game economics were engineered to allow a last rank standard player (1 000 000 exp = Marshal) to have amassed enough crystals (through crystal bonus drops, battle fund and daily gifts) to buy an M3 weapon and an M3 hull without spending real money. This is still the case, since we have 3 more ranks, instead of working out the game economics formula using a standard marshal, we have used a last rank standard player (1 440 000 exp = Generalissimo). This explains the difference in the "experience vs battle fund" growth difference after the update 123.

Just repeat the propaganda which tries to explain: Now you just need to play 50% longer to get the same as before, be happy about that or make us happy and pay pay pay!

Edited February 15, 2013 by r_Otto_I0

[Dihos 2]

Hate the rebalance? Quit like I did.

[r_sys491520 0]

Just be quiet!!! Ok? No one cares!! In the time it has taken you to complain you could have gotten 100 crystals or 1000 (like the new system)

The fact that you want more battle fund tells me you are lazy and dont want to work for it!

would it be fun for you if you had to play 2 hours to get 2 crystals with current prices? of course not. that is the point - it is not fun anymore, that's why i won't play it anymore, not because of some update. it should be challenging but not to the extreme. last version was challenging enough, the problem is that they seem to take us for idiots and think that we won't notice the x5 or x2.5 fund when prices are x10. someone mentioned insulting... well, this is insulting intelligence of players :)

the fact is that online free-to-play games have really miserable conversion rates and very few of players actually purchase things. by making it harder to play, they are not going to make more money, they are only going to drive players away to something else. once they are gone, they will hardly come back.

another point is - these new topics don't open for no reason... abuse or not - get the point what they are trying to say - they are not happy. if you lock them away you are just closing your eyes to the obvious - most of us don't like update 123. the point of my poll was to display that publicly how much of us really likes it (unbiased opinion not the developers' biased and blind-sighted perspective). now that you've locked the topic, of course we can't see that ourselves... this is not transparent to players, this is not democracy, this is dictatorship.

more to the point - if i invest some money in the game, i expect it to be like it was. of course, developers can modify it - but if they overdo this, everyone will be unhappy... and especially those that paid for some crystals. if i buy crystals now i certainly wouldn't like to see that my cystals are less worth with next update. i can understand developers point of view... but to me my own point of view is more important (as well as it is to anyone else that is not developer that is). people care about their needs, not developer needs... that's how it is, deal with it, it is basics of any sales.

if you don't understand the above, i can hardly make it more clear, and this is all in good intention not meant to insult anyone.

Edited February 15, 2013 by r_sys491520

[CombatTreator 0]

i feel the same

[Notchfan 616]

@ sys49152 very well said, one of the best posts in the forums. *clap clap*

[Lhamster 4,081]

Of course the topic was closed -> It went from discussion to flood, and this was not accepted.

Also, read:

 

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If you don't agree to that, you must leave.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Lhamster

[r_Otto_I0 0]

So it has come that consultants (who lie a lot to us as I pointed out before) start to just quote the Rules and Eula...

This clearly means they have no arguments left and know that we get ripped of here...