Review [Issue 9] Update 123 - What's all the fuss about?

[Lhamster 4,081]

In the past couple of weeks, there has been a lot of complaints at the change in the economics system, better known as Update 123. Let me explain the update first.

With the addition of new ranks, and the ranks at which you can buy M3 tanks changing, there was need for the game economics to change. The developers decided to do this change at the same time as changing the distribution of the fund at the end of the battle, to make it more democratic, and not based on an exponential formula. So both updates were grouped together under Update 123 and called 'the change in economics'. The prices and drops were multiplied by 10, along with the crystals received in the daily bonus. The amount of crystals you had at the time of the update were also multiplied by 10 and the price of crystals decreased by 10 times. The battle fund however, only went up by 7 times. This figure comes from the calculation:



which comes to 0.714 (3sf). This means that the rate at which you earn crystals decreases enough that instead of earning an M3/M3 tank at Marshal, or 1 million xp, you now earn an M3/M3 at 1.4 million xp, or Generalissimo. The reason for increasing everything by 10 was to make it easier to distribute the crystals with the new democratic formula. This means that those who don't consistently win battles will get more crystals and the game will be more enjoyable for them. It is easier to divide 30 crystals between 5 players than 3 crystals, so more people will get some crystals.

As annoying as the update may seem, I hope you can now see there are legitimate reasons behind it.

Now, I wish to address some of the complaints I have seen.

The developers said everything is multiplied by 10, but the fund is only multiplied by 7. We weren't told about this!
This is true, and while it is frustrating, the developers are perfectly within their rights to do this. In the EULA, a legal agreement, that by using any of the sites on the tankionline.com domain, you agree to, states:
 

1.8. Owner doesn't give any guarantees concerning unerring, uninterrupted, contiguous work of Game, conformity of Game to the requirements and the expectations of User.

4.2. Administration is entitled to remove or change, any information, content, materials placed on Site and other Owner or other legal owners resources of without warning of any User.

I think the quotes speak for themselves.

With the democratic distribution system, I am actually only earning 5x the crystals!
The gifts in the daily bonus, and the crystal drops are 10x, so it is only part of your earnings which is x7. While you may be earning 5x the crystals when you win, you are also earning more crystals when you come 2^nd or 3^rd, so it will even itself out over time to 7x.

Those that complain when they already have M3/M3.
Firstly I will address those who are generalissimo, the highest rank. You should have an M3/M3 set, or maybe more than one, and you have reached the highest rank in the game. Surely now you should simply be playing for fun, not caring about the amount of crystals you win or xp, as you have reached the highest achievement in the game with regards to both. That's cetainly what I'm doing.
To those who have M3/M3 and are not the highest rank, congratulations, you have reached the achievement of M3/M3 before you are supposed to. Surely you should now be playing for fun and xp? The amount of xp you get hasn't changed, so you still earn it at the same rate, so there is nothing for you to complain about there.
Yes, it is nice to have more than one M3 set, but you can't play a battle with more than one, and you can pretty much use one combo in most battles, which I have actually been doing since the rebalance.

The decrease in fund rate, coupled with the higher prices, means I'll only get an M3 when I'm one of the highest ranks!
Yes, and that is the point, you cannot even buy an M3 now until the higher ranks! The fact that they are unlocked at higher ranks means you have more time to earn the crystals for them and everyone else is the same! Before the rebalance, you were out gunned if you didn't have an M3 set by about Major, and the economics were designed for you to get an M3 set by Marshal! Some of the best hulls are not even unlocked until Generalissimo, the last rank! So, you have time to get your weapon, and then reach the last rank and get your hull! So while you might earn less each battle, you have a lot more battles to play until you can buy something.

I hope now you understand why Update 123 was implemented. We are all entitled to opinions, so even if you dislike Update 123, you can state this, however, the way to go about this is in a mature, civilised fashion, not with spam, profanity, or generally having a tantrum.

~Lham~

Please note: I have not actually stated my opinion on Update 123 anywhere in the article. Any insulting or hateful posts will be reported and removed.

 

Edited July 31, 2017 by Hexed

[jokjinari 160]

Good article. You made good points, but I still don't like that M3 weapons start coming out at Brigadier, so buyers will dominate until the rank of Generalissimo and I may never get there because I don't play enough. Still, I can't complain.

 

I read the EULA for the first time today and found it quite hard to understand and even though I am a native English speaker, I had to reread things a few times before I could get them. I don't know how non-native English speakers are able to understand it at all.

[Lhamster 4,081]

Yeah, its not written in normal english, but legal speak, so it has no loopholes.

[Zero-nl 36]

I hope this isn't seen as a complaint.

With the rebalance, prices went up, just as the rank generalissimo was added, why would you earn less crystals than, it was in balance already, i'll show you:

Did the risen prices already compensate the new ranks? I mean, first, you could have an Tier 2 M3-M3 combo for 41.390 crystals (Viking M3-Freeze M3)

Now, if you want that same combo, having 400.000 xp more 'time' to earn it, you have to pay 57.150 (x10, so that makes 571.500) which is: 57.150/41.390=1,3807....., which comes to= 1,4.

The maximum XP was gone up with 1,4 (1.000.000 to 1.400.000) so that makes the decreasing of the crystals, in my opinion, useless.

Other combo's, I left the x10 stuff to make it easier to see.

Viking-Ricochet= From 50650 to 68290. Makes 68290/50650=1,348272458=1,35 (nearly 1,4)

Hornet-Isida= From 25.100 to 50.755. Makes 50775/25100= 2.022111554= 2,02 (so that already is +0,6 more crystals, and the speed of getting crystals is decreased to 0,7 :huh: )

Mammoth-Thunder= From 32340 to 66.030. Makes 66030/32340=2,04174397= 2,04

The new prices made up for the 400.000 XP extra to earn. Now you've destroyed the balance by decreasing crystal income with 7. This is the truth, and numbers can't lie, that's what they

told me. Now, look at those numbers, they would already be more expensive without Update 123. So again: explain why, because it was unnessecary.

[inplatform 82]

Good article! i agree what you said.

[Lankbouv 6,347]

Now i've read this article, i see your point, i think we should all enjoy playing the game !!!

[Lhamster 4,081]

I hope this isn't seen as a complaint.

With the rebalance, prices went up, just as the rank generalissimo was added, why would you earn less crystals than, it was in balance already, i'll show you:

Did the risen prices already compensate the new ranks? I mean, first, you could have an Tier 2 M3-M3 combo for 41.390 crystals (Viking M3-Freeze M3)

Now, if you want that same combo, having 400.000 xp more 'time' to earn it, you have to pay 57.150 (x10, so that makes 571.500) which is: 57.150/41.390=1,3807....., which comes to= 1,4.

The maximum XP was gone up with 1,4 (1.000.000 to 1.400.000) so that makes the decreasing of the crystals, in my opinion, useless.

Other combo's, I left the x10 stuff to make it easier to see.

Viking-Ricochet= From 50650 to 68290. Makes 68290/50650=1,348272458=1,35 (nearly 1,4)

Hornet-Isida= From 25.100 to 50.755. Makes 50775/25100= 2.022111554= 2,02 (so that already is +0,6 more crystals, and the speed of getting crystals is decreased to 0,7 :huh: )

Mammoth-Thunder= From 32340 to 66.030. Makes 66030/32340=2,04174397= 2,04

The new prices made up for the 400.000 XP extra to earn. Now you've destroyed the balance by decreasing crystal income with 7. This is the truth, and numbers can't lie, that's what they

told me. Now, look at those numbers, they would already be more expensive without Update 123. So again: explain why, because it was unnessecary.

Interesting point, obviously IDK how the devs calculated all this stuff, but I'm sure they must of taken this into account somewhere.

[Alklines 1,751]

drops were multiplied by 10

 

Lie! :angry:

Edited March 1, 2013 by Alklines

[Lhamster 4,081]

Lie! :angry:

Nah, true fact. I am refering to the value of the drop, not the rate at which it falls.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Player MonkeyMagic has been banned for a MONTH. Reason: Insulting assistants to the Administration, Rule 2.1, 2.2, 2.4

Edited March 3, 2013 by Lhamster

[Raphael2 3,263]

Good explanations.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

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Edited March 2, 2013 by MonkeyMagic

[Beerme 106]

good explanation but still doesnt change the fact that the update isn't actually very good

[SilentShadow 104]

I would like to know, if possible, does the new economic system take into account upgrades before the Generalissimo?

 

Such as, M3 Thunder, Isida, Hornet.

 

And all of the M1, M2 upgrades (even though most focus is on M3, they will be unavailable for a long time to most players)

 

And if so, how does it take them into account?

[Lhamster 4,081]

I think those weapons and tanks are unlocked before Generalissimo, but you are meant to buy them nearer to Generalissimo. Those M3s that can be bought before Marshal are at the cheaper end too.

[r_lionmesi0 0]

good :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :tank: :fire_r: :fire_l:

[Notchfan 616]

Then please answer, why aren't we told about that battle fund were multiplied by 7 not 10 but instead we were told that "all parameters regarding crystals were multiplied by 10"? Is there something they don't want us to know? I'm quite suspicious of that.

[Lhamster 4,081]

I don't know why they didn't tell us, but as I explained, they are within their rights to do that. I know its annoying!

[The-Player3 6]

The rebalance and update 123 were pointless, couldn't they just keep the prices but increase the rank limit before rebalance? Maybe nerf shaft a bit though.

[Notchfan 616]

I don't know why they didn't tell us, but as I explained, they are within their rights to do that. I know its annoying!

Of course, they own the game and thus can manipulate it whatever they want. But they cannot manipulate their customers actions. Therefore no matter what they do except making free2players competitive among a fraction of buyers within a reasonable amount of extra effort, the game will be struggling for existence and eventually come to its demise.

 

Because without the majority of free2play players, what are you going to shoot at?

[RockandRide 12]

Player RockandRide has been banned for a week. Reason: Insulting assistants to the Administration. Points 2.1,2.2,2.4

Edited March 3, 2013 by SuperNick95

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[betterthenyou1 0]

I liked the new graphic update, i liked the rebalance but i hate the economics. They multiplied the whole hell by 10. Funds were not really multiplied by 10. A normal guy like me for its impossible to earn so many crystals. You know that players like me get 200 crystals max. even i get to the top. Prices are too high that its hard to afford things. You see i won 200 crystals that that only makes me buy only 4 drugs. Earlier if i even won just 50 crystals i would've got 10 of them. I can only earn mere 500 crystals (max) per day. I don't want to change the economies but just make the battle fund 15x or above. That would bring at least some players back to tanki.

[ahmx 5]

Good article Lham! ;)

[r_sinister.do0 0]

:angry: i hate it :angry: