too many advantages for freeze and isida.

[evil.kinevil 64]

Here are things that freeze can do that other tanks can't

• shoot through dead tank and kill you when you can't shoot
  
• outrange isida
  
• ridiculous freeze effect
  

Isida advantages

• auto aim
  
• ridiculous strong
  
• gain back health
  
• heal other players
  

Now what "special effects" do the other weapons have?

Critical hit, which barely happens, 8 % at m3

firebird, defrosts freeze and doesn't do much damage after that

railgun- goes through tanks, and second tank only takes half damage, and you'll probably die while reloading

thunder- splash damage: kills you more than other tanks, can just be rammed and you will self-destruct

ricochet- got nerfed really bad after rebalance, can't hold as much plasma and is hard to hit someone

twins- strong,but will still be killed by freeze in between tanks

shaft- extremely slow turret turn, and once a freeze is behind you, you are done.

Edited May 8, 2013 by evil.kinevil

[UNDESIRABLE 147]

Excuse me, I am an isida player and the fact that freezes (Unless they are noob) will always kill me is awful :(

I agree that freeze is OP and the the freeze effect is too strong.

The smoky criticial, in my opinion, happens more than 8%.

The firebird has a ridiculuously stron burn affect.

Railgun is quite good and fun to play with. (Will upgrade my m0 rail to m3 tomorrow :D )

 

Thunder is worse than smoky in small battles but better when there is a crowd.

Rico..... yep, nerfed... everyone can agree with that... but I'm not complaining :P

Twins is ok.

Edited May 8, 2013 by UNDESIRABLE

[evil.kinevil 64]

but you dont need to fight, you can just heal. that is why it is op

[jet-fighter-319793 1]

isidas have shortest range

takes 1 second before killing or healing starts

only 15 seconds m0 in a bar take 25 to recharge

cant hit multiple ppl

can only shoot turret

 

 

do you complain when they heal you

 

unless very stupid no you dont

 

dont like us get paint against us

more cons than pros

[r_Slash1524_20 23]

why don't you say this-

Riochit advantages-

-reflects through the walls, so can hit you even if they can't see you. freezes and isidas can't do that.

-has a powerful shot, so can do parkour easily.freezes and isidas can't do that.

-has a long range. freezes and isidas don't have that.

[evil.kinevil 64]

why don't you say this-

Riochit advantages-

-reflects through the walls, so can hit you even if they can't see you. freezes and isidas can't do that.

-has a powerful shot, so can do parkour easily.freezes and isidas can't do that.

-has a long range. freezes and isidas don't have that.

but then they just go to small maps

[evil.kinevil 64]

but then they just go to small maps

and most people use fast tanks with isida and freeze so they get to you fast and kill you.

[Playep 355]

So,You're Just Saying Those*OP* Guns' Pros And Not Accepting The Cons. :o

Here are things that freeze can do that other tanks can't

• shoot through dead tank and kill you when you can't shoot
  
• outrange isida
  
• ridiculous freeze effect
  

Isida advantages

• auto aim
  
• ridiculous strong
  
• gain back health
  
• heal other players
  

Now what "special effects" do the other weapons have?

Critical hit, which barely happens, 8 % at m3

firebird, defrosts freeze and doesn't do much damage after that

railgun- goes through tanks, and second tank only takes half damage, and you'll probably die while reloading

thunder- splash damage: kills you more than other tanks, can just be rammed and you will self-destruct

ricochet- got nerfed really bad after rebalance, can't hold as much plasma and is hard to hit someone

twins- strong,but will still be killed by freeze in between tanks

shaft- extremely slow turret turn, and once a freeze is behind you, you are done.

[Corruption13 15]

Here are things that freeze can do that other tanks can't

• shoot through dead tank and kill you when you can't shoot
  
• outrange isida
  
• ridiculous freeze effect
  

Isida advantages

• auto aim
  
• ridiculous strong
  
• gain back health
  
• heal other players
  

Now what "special effects" do the other weapons have?

Critical hit, which barely happens, 8 % at m3

firebird, defrosts freeze and doesn't do much damage after that

 

 

I agree with OP, on the first 2 points.. But I don't in the latter half... I mean, fire-bird is powerful, maybe not too much in the m0-1 era, but the other M's are so powerful, it is awesome, and smoky, you can get a whole lot of kills, its awesome, the crits are not too rare, maybe at times, they are, but that's only when your having a bad day..

 

Freeze and isida, in my opionion is too boring to play, not much strategy is required, where smoky and firebird can only be mastered by a pro.. [i own both :)]

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Freeze doesn't belong in the game.

[LiquidGold 1,370]

Here are things that freeze can do that other tanks can't

• shoot through dead tank and kill you when you can't shoot
  

 

Now what "special effects" do the other weapons have?

Critical hit, which barely happens, 8 % at m3

firebird, defrosts freeze and doesn't do much damage after that

 

firebird can also shoot though other dead tanks .... error 1

i can still be 1 shot killed when i am fully drugged by smokey..... error 2

suggestion if you can not beat them join them

[Voyager-2 18]

All the weapons are good on its own.No need to complain.If its too overpowered then leave.

Edited May 9, 2013 by Voyager-2

[MTAOTHE 19]

 

 

I agree with OP, on the first 2 points.. But I don't in the latter half... I mean, fire-bird is powerful, maybe not too much in the m0-1 era, but the other M's are so powerful, it is awesome, and smoky, you can get a whole lot of kills, its awesome, the crits are not too rare, maybe at times, they are, but that's only when your having a bad day..

 

Freeze and isida, in my opionion is too boring to play, not much strategy is required, where smoky and firebird can only be mastered by a pro.. [i own both :)]

you also need skills on islda and freezer u think it is easy to freze people and just circle around them? There is ussually a thunder or rail who is going to kill you so it is hard you need to decide which target are you going to attack. And islada is also hard to master if you are attacker not just boring camper heller. And if you are islda attacking other team base they will first kill you.

 

To control any gun you need skills

[Voyager-2 18]

you also need skills on islda and freezer u think it is easy to freze people and just circle around them? There is ussually a thunder or rail who is going to kill you so it is hard you need to decide which target are you going to attack. And islada is also hard to master if you are attacker not just boring camper heller. And if you are islda attacking other team base they will first kill you.

 

To control any gun you need skills

Yes! That's what i like to hear! But twins,no need skill when you had unlimited reload :P

[MTAOTHE 19]

I am not sure about twins(do not have them) but I easly kill them with rail but they are really hard to kill with short range guns in moon silence so I try to stay awry from them

[Voyager-2 18]

I am not sure about twins(do not have them) but I easly kill them with rail but they are really hard to kill with short range guns in moon silence so I try to stay awry from them

Yeah they are annoying on that map lol :P

[r_SwagBoy110 421]

• ridiculous freeze effect
  

That my friend, is why I just bought it and upgraded it to M2.

I will enjoy annoying people. :)

[Voyager-2 18]

That my friend, is why I just bought it and upgraded it to M2.

I will enjoy annoying people. :)

I hate you....

[MTAOTHE 19]

 

That my friend, is why I just bought it and upgraded it to M2.

I will enjoy annoying people. :)

hahaha swag you are like me always enyod peopls I do it with freezer or islda

[Shadow_Error_X 50]

Freeze doesn't belong in the game.

 

-_- What are you saying? If Freeze at some point becomes less great than it already is, or becomes removed. I will quit, seriously. That would not be cool.

[r_SmokyPro0 10]

firebird, defrosts freeze

 

lol

[birdhunter321 4]

Here are things that freeze can do that other tanks can't

• shoot through dead tank and kill you when you can't shoot
  
• outrange isida
  
• ridiculous freeze effect
  

Isida advantages

• auto aim
  
• ridiculous strong
  
• gain back health
  
• heal other players
  

Now what "special effects" do the other weapons have?

Critical hit, which barely happens, 8 % at m3

firebird, defrosts freeze and doesn't do much damage after that

railgun- goes through tanks, and second tank only takes half damage, and you'll probably die while reloading

thunder- splash damage: kills you more than other tanks, can just be rammed and you will self-destruct

ricochet- got nerfed really bad after rebalance, can't hold as much plasma and is hard to hit someone

twins- strong,but will still be killed by freeze in between tanks

shaft- extremely slow turret turn, and once a freeze is behind you, you are done.

The firebird is actually a very good weapon with the burning effect.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

But Freeze is 81039 times better than Firebird, and cheaper... and more annoying.

[r_kikkare0 28]

If Freezer is so bad and too good and everything as you said, then there should in every game be top 3 players something like that: top 1: freezer, top 2: freezer top 3 someone who is drugging. But now there is rarely good freezers in the game, most of time they are at the bottom of that top player list. You just remember them so well, because its the only weapon that can make you slower.

[Mr.SV.ENS 738]

I bought smoky m2 today, and noticed that critical hit happens way more then they say in garage :D sometimes in Polygon DM I do 3 crits in 5 shots, that's just awesome :D