Freeze was nerfed! Finally.

[skitee 555]

No one here has to give an apology since the change was not made on the Freeze itself, as Semyon said, but on the Freeze effect. We tested it out and the changes, again as said by Semyon, were very small so we couldn't notice. Next time avoid having this kind of behaviour, try to think before acting that way since, as said by FBI, we are not robots.

All I was asking for was you to admit you got it wrong. Seems you can't even do that.

 

I did think about what I said, I'm not blaming you for getting it wrong, that's understandable. But now that it's clear that you are, just admit like FBI did. That's all I wanted. :)

[semyonkirov 29,038]

 

exactly what I was thinking, about everything. :blink:

freeze was my favorite weapon till now. on the first day we thought it doesn't freeze at all. (we even tested it)

seriously, maybe it's a minor bug but makes huge difference.

and if so, twins should be checked as well, light tanks can't move forward when twins is shooting at them.

The fact that bug on Freeze wasn't discovered for a long time, makes me wonder; if any other weapons have hidden bugs.

I don't think they have, though I'll pay more attention to them on the battlefield from now on.

Well devs, time to check out twins!

 

Actually this thing was only with Freeze. However, after friends system and micro-upgrades, one of the next tasks for us will be to check the overall balance of other guns and hulls. So certain stats of some items may be slighlty changed.

[I.Devastation 2,053]

Actually this thing was only with Freeze. However, after friends system and micro-upgrades, one of the next tasks for us will be to check the overall balance of other guns and hulls. So certain stats of some items may be slighlty changed.

Yes! I hope Smoky gets stronger :D

[Shar0n 1,345]

Actually this thing was only with Freeze. However, after friends system and micro-upgrades, one of the next tasks for us will be to check the overall balance of other guns and hulls. So certain stats of some items may be slighlty changed.

sounds alright.

ahm.. rico and shaft. :P

[Crusader 198]

I'll clarify everything for you guys. After receiving lots of complaints about Freeze our game designers decided to check everything.

In the process of correcting errors in the game code we found a minor bug that was making the freezing effect stronger and faster than it was meant to be.

The bug has been corrected and now Freeze works as it should and as it was designed after the rebalance.

The changes are very small but there are some, yes.

Hm... Is it still worth to buy it?

[Raphael2 3,263]

Nah it isn't

[cheap_plastic_flower 154]

I'll clarify everything for you guys. After receiving lots of complaints about Freeze our game designers decided to check everything.

In the process of correcting errors in the game code we found a minor bug that was making the freezing effect stronger and faster than it was meant to be.

 

I don't doubt your integrity or that of the Developers, Mr. Kirov. But ... I do have a problem with any kind of "unannounced changes". This Freeze adjustment/minor bug repair/nerf has resulted in the game becoming UNBALANCED yet again. I purchased Freeze and Wasp because it was a very effective combo for NSB battles. It was very useful on maps like Kungur and deadly on maps like Red Alert. That is changed now. By "nerfing" the Freeze you have decreased the effectiveness of the Wasp. What will be done now ? BUFF the Wasp ? Will an INCREASE in the power of the Freeze to its original condition come back to the the user in the form of MICRO UPGRADES ? Will Freeze be "nerfed out of existence" like the Rico ? This situation is going to get really confusing.

 

I am almost certain most of the complaints about Freeze being OVERPOWERED come from the LOWER RANKS. Like most high ranking NSB Fanatics I consider anyone below the rank of Field Marshall to be PEASANTS which are useful only for target practice. In the future I think that the needs of HIGH RANKING QUALITY PLAYERS and BUYERS, such as myself, should be taken into consideration before those of the ANTI FREEZE MOB. Pun intended.

 

Respectfully yours,

Cheap Plastic Flower

Edited June 19, 2013 by cheap_plastic_flower

[semyonkirov 29,038]

I perfectly understand you and we are sorry that we haven't found out it before. However, now Freeze works as it was supposed to work, this is what it should be.

Freeze wasn't nerfed it was fixed, there was a bug and it was detected and corrected. Actually now it takes 4.5 % (or about that) more time to fully freeze an enemy tank. So it's not as dramatic as you describe.

 

In future freeze won't be nerfed unless it's necessary, as I previously said there will be extra changes in balance to make all the guns equaly capable. This is where we need your feedback and experience to make everything perfectly balanced.

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

well nerfing is in the marketing book in the chapter ''How to sell microupgrades''

[semyonkirov 29,038]

well nerfing is in the marketing book in the chapter ''How to sell microupgrades''

It's not related. The Freeze bug was found accidentally when programmers were improving the anti-cheat system.

[2soon2 3]

:huh:

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

OMG..this can't be true..now even firebird is more usefull..omg..what's the use of freeze now..to cool drinks?..omg..my m2 is rubbish now..I accidently found this topic,I tried to get to some administrator to ask how can I check is it everything right with my freeze..now it stinks..and please,this is not small change..I played wtih freeze since master sargent or something like that rank..and I can feel it inside game..omg :(

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

I hope that all of you who hate freeze are now satisfied..it turned to GARBAGE weapon,now maybe the weakest weapon in garage..all of you who only play with cowardly guns like shaft and rail will sleep satisfied tonight..cause you can't use face to face weapon..proablly will kill you to stear with tank and breath on same time..thx devs..now you really killed the game..2 seconds before effect kick is?..pathetic

[Mr.SV.ENS 738]

LOL you pretend like your life is over... The freeze-effect is still really annoying actually I didn't noticed any difference so please don't be that upset -_-

[Lhamster 4,081]

I consider anyone below the rank of Field Marshall to be PEASANTS which are useful only for target practice.

:lol: Almost tempted to say I agree *looks at FBI and Barba*

Edited June 19, 2013 by Lhamster

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

well my Inferno paint was money well spent ..down the drain

 

and don't let me get started on the anti cheat sistem you don't know whether you are on Heathrow Airport an F1 race track or playing Tanki but instead of fixing this cock ups let's nerf freeze better

Edited June 19, 2013 by Angel.0f.Death

[r_Firingsniper0 1,215]

I hope that all of you who hate freeze are now satisfied..it turned to GARBAGE weapon,now maybe the weakest weapon in garage..all of you who only play with cowardly guns like shaft and rail will sleep satisfied tonight..cause you can't use face to face weapon..proablly will kill you to stear with tank and breath on same time..thx devs..now you really killed the game..2 seconds before effect kick is?..pathetic

Oh man shut up seriously, it's still very annoying, + ricochet is the worst weapon, freeze is still annoying, don't worry.

well my Inferno paint was money well spent ..down the drain

You need to rank up at least 30 ranks before Inferno is available -_-

[luster77 1]

I have bee playing with freeze for two years. This story is very, very sad. The very essence of the freeze, and fun, is dancing in front of turret of a mighty tank( like mammoth) with small hornet or wasp. Now, the delay of freeze effect will make a lot of difference. That Initial contact to enemy made the freeze what it WAS, the best close combat weapon.This is now not M3 that I have in the garage, but M2.6. Outrageous. Unexpected, not announced - A BUG. Your Defensive system: we will balance all the weapons. I don't care. The only thing that is good is that you "accidentally" found it before microupgrades. Balancing the game under pressure of people as Cheap Plastic Flower described, will get you in the never-ending story. We will see in the future, but for now, TO devs are failed, breaking under player complaints.

Edited June 19, 2013 by luster77

[Bowzie 64]

Okay, let me guys tell you all a little story. Back in the days before the rebalence, I played Tanki with my m3 freeze, m3 viking, and inferno. I was 2nd lieutenant (2 diamonds) Back then te7he freeze effect wore off almost instantly, and it took awhile to initiate. I still loved the gun; it took strategy instead of luck and just pressing the space bar. After rebalence all this changed - the effect was almost instant and it lasted forever. For me this was a dream come true, of course. I knew this day would come eventually, however, and I was prepared. Now, it has come and to tell you guys the truth, I am not disappointed one bit! I truly expected them to make the effect wear off more quickly then it does. They have done something truly fantastic, now inferno paint doesn't just protect damage-wise, but also effect-wise! This is brilliant, and realistic. You guys must remember the effect varies depending on the paint, as it should. No protection paints freeze fairly quickly, while protective ones can take more of a beating. Now I am aware there will be micro-upgrades and possibly these will upgrade the effect, but all joking aside I love my freeze no matter how it is, and always will.

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

Oh man shut up seriously, it's still very annoying, + ricochet is the worst weapon, freeze is still annoying, don't worry.

 

You need to rank up at least 30 ranks before Inferno is available -_-

 

"Alex, I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for $200"

Edited June 19, 2013 by Angel.0f.Death

[devijant 11]

I perfectly understand you and we are sorry that we haven't found out it before. However, now Freeze works as it was supposed to work, this is what it should be.

Freeze wasn't nerfed it was fixed, there was a bug and it was detected and corrected. Actually now it takes 4.5 % (or about that) more time to fully freeze an enemy tank. So it's not as dramatic as you describe.

 

what kind of bug? and so what it was bug? you advertise freeze as it is, we tested and lowed, finally bought and now you tell some stories about bug? wow, again you doing what you want to the detriment of users.

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

Oh man shut up seriously, it's still very annoying, + ricochet is the worst weapon, freeze is still annoying, don't worry.

 

You need to rank up at least 30 ranks before Inferno is available -_-

I really do beleive that freeze is annoying to you,you are proablly thunder/rail/shaft kind of player..and please kid,let thet be the last time that you are telling someone to shut up..proablly,you can only play face-to-face fight when running from freeze/isida/firebird..get some skills..

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

I have bee playing with freeze for two years. This story is very, very sad. The very essence of the freeze, and fun, is dancing in front of turret of a mighty tank( like mammoth) with small hornet or wasp. Now, the delay of freeze effect will make a lot of difference. That Initial contact to enemy made the freeze what it WAS, the best close combat weapon.This is now not M3 that I have in the garage, but M2.6. Outrageous. Unexpected, not announced - A BUG. Your Defensive system: we will balance all the weapons. I don't care. The only thing that is good is that you "accidentally" found it before microupgrades. Balancing the game under pressure of people as Cheap Plastic Flower described, will get you in the never-ending story. We will see in the future, but for now, TO devs are failed, breaking under player complaints.

+1 maybe if they look at more weapons,twins proablly suffer from the same "mysterious" bug :D

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

LOL you pretend like your life is over... The freeze-effect is still really annoying actually I didn't noticed any difference so please don't be that upset -_-

lol..get one and see for yourself..you didn't notice?..you are blind or kidding..now it's impossible to stop mammoth m2/m3 with the color which have high resistance to freeze,and big time problem against viking/hunter/dictator on same modification..it's just how it is..anyone who plays with freeze for a long time like I do will tell you the same..

[luster77 1]

Okay, let me guys tell you all a little story. Back in the days before the rebalence, I played Tanki with my m3 freeze, m3 viking, and inferno. I was 2nd lieutenant (2 diamonds) Back then te7he freeze effect wore off almost instantly, and it took awhile to initiate. I still loved the gun; it took strategy instead of luck and just pressing the space bar. After rebalence all this changed - the effect was almost instant and it lasted forever. For me this was a dream come true, of course. I knew this day would come eventually, however, and I was prepared. Now, it has come and to tell you guys the truth, I am not disappointed one bit! I truly expected them to make the effect wear off more quickly then it does. They have done something truly fantastic, now inferno paint doesn't just protect damage-wise, but also effect-wise! This is brilliant, and realistic. You guys must remember the effect varies depending on the paint, as it should. No protection paints freeze fairly quickly, while protective ones can take more of a beating. Now I am aware there will be micro-upgrades and possibly these will upgrade the effect, but all joking aside I love my freeze no matter how it is, and always will.

 

Friend, you forget the fact that before rebalance, you had only shaft, riko, rail and thunder as an competitive opponent. Now situation has changed. Twins will now be unstoppable. Maybe even smoky. Even isida will now have a chance to get in range, and take freeze out even with smaller hull. This game started to become noob paradise after rebalance, and now it is even encouraged by devs. The dust will cover freeze modifications in garage. Even if you are right, the way they have changed freeze is not acceptable.