Why made smoky so overpowered?

[r_Green-Lantern0 17]

smoky has critical hits, its more in "%" as it has been told in garage (according to the players). smoky also does more damage than thunder itself because of its shot/min rate (without critical hits) is greater than thunder, also it has more kickback than thunder which causes anyother gun to misfire (specially wasp cant stand against smoky). but above all, there are more protection paints in cheap rate for all the guns except smoky. even a WO5 can get "roger" paint which has 30% twin protection. Cheap paint "dirty" has 26% shaft, "cleder" and "rustle" has decent thunder protection of 32%, and etc. but what about smoky? only a little good protection paint for lower ranks is crappy "carbon". it looks good in tank but has only 20% protection of smoky, and other 5% of shaft and twins are no useful. and, we get only decent smoky protection from brigadier rank which is "savanna", but it also cost very high. and another is "needle", which is impossible to buy below field marshal rank.

 

My point is, we need more protection paint from lower rank (may be starting from major) which will have at least 30% smoky protection along with at least one other decent protection (like twins 20%).  

[HeroPlayer 797]

Noo, look good. There are smoky paints but... they are mostly paints with protection for guns you dont want protection from. Am I right?

[r_Green-Lantern0 17]

Noo, look good. There are smoky paints but... they are mostly paints with protection for guns you dont want protection from. Am I right?

you are wrong. i want protection paint above "30%" from rank major, in moderate price as "cleder"   

[HeroPlayer 797]

Smoky unlocks at high ranks, so the good smoky paints do.

[legenddestroyer 824]

Smoky unlocks at high ranks, so the good smoky paints do.

+1

[KiwiZaphod 53]

If Smokey is so overpowered you could just not tell anyone and buy a Smokey for yourself.  Then you would be king of the battlefield!   More importantly, only Smokey users would ever win battles, and the rest of us would run in fear.  :D  

[whodat34 58]

i think smoky is over priced

[ronen93 46]

Believe me, paints like "carbon" and "Hohloma" that has +20% protection used by a player are hard to kill even with Smokey m2. Also obviously good smokey protection are only unlocked at higher rank as m2 smokey only being unlocked at Colonel rank.

[r_Railgun_Sniper0 0]

If Smokey is so overpowered you could just not tell anyone and buy a Smokey for yourself.  Then you would be king of the battlefield!   More importantly, only Smokey users would ever win battles, and the rest of us would run in fear.  :D  

Nope. With thunder, one shot a hornet. Smokies can't do that. You need to shoot 3 times.

[RiseOfCucumber 651]

The critical hit is the Ultimate Skill for Smoky , same like other weapon they all have their own Ultimate Skill . Now all the weapon have their own Ultimate Skill not like the old one . 

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Smoky is good at the open field, Thunder at cluttered mid-field, and Railgun for trench.

Before condisidering Smoky is overpowered, look at the maps you're in, or the position you're fighting.

 

I'm pretty sure you'll find 'overpowered Smoky's' at specific places of the map.

I have it M2, and I'm having a hard time beating Railguns if they continue to shoot and hide (Trench), or Being splash damaged even when I hide behind the walls of Iran (Cluttered mid-field)

[KiwiZaphod 53]

Nope. With thunder, one shot a hornet. Smokies can't do that. You need to shoot 3 times.

Not an M2 Hornet, its more like 3 shots ;)   But the point I was making is that all these "XX is Overpowered" threads it is strange that if that turret is sooooooo overpowered, that the original poster hasn't simply started to use the "superweapon" in question. 

 

I suspect in practice they have levelled, and gone from being a big fish in a small pond to finding themselves swimming with sharks again - we've all been there - and suddenly the weapon they were using to dominate isn't so good anymore - especially as Smokey levels up way before Thunder. 

[A-Radiation 1]

actully smoky m2 and smoky m3 are 1 damage difference e.g   m2 smoky takes off 28-35 and m3 takes of 29-36 SO UR CHATTING BS

[ronen93 46]

actully smoky m2 and smoky m3 are 1 damage difference e.g   m2 smoky takes off 28-35 and m3 takes of 29-36 SO UR CHATTING BS

Don't forget that fire rate of M3 is faster than m2 which makes a difference. And also the frequency of m3 critical hit seems more common than m2.

[KiwiZaphod 53]

Don't forget that fire rate of M3 is faster than m2 which makes a difference. And also the frequency of m3 critical hit seems more common than m2.

The critical hits are key to Smokey's success;  its not about "damage per second" but the probability that you will kill the enemy before they kill you - a few points of damage and an increased critical hit percentage shifts the odds a lot.

[r_Green-Lantern0 17]

smoky is overpowered because it is good in all maps, small medium or large. because its normal damage is same as thunder + can kill any tank with critical hit before his opponent gets the chance to do any damage to him. however, im not complaining about this. i wanted to say... there are no paint greater than 22% for lower ranks, but yet other guns protection has 30%. smoky unlocks in high rank, but lower rankers still play with higher ranks.     

 

Believe me, paints like "carbon" and "Hohloma" that has +20% protection used by a player are hard to kill even with Smokey m2.

believe me, paints like "cleder" and "rustle" that has 32% protection used by a player are hard to kill even with Thunder m3

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

not another ''this gun is overpowered'' thread just stop it with these nonsense topics now every gun that kills somebody is overpowered just get some skills going and not whine like a baby

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

 

 

believe me, paints like "cleder" and "rustle" that has 32% protection used by a player are hard to kill even with Thunder m3

How you know about that? You can't even have a thunder M1 and I doubt if you play with thunder.

[ronen93 46]

smoky is overpowered because it is good in all maps, small medium or large. because its normal damage is same as thunder + can kill any tank with critical hit before his opponent gets the chance to do any damage to him. however, im not complaining about this. i wanted to say... there are no paint greater than 22% for lower ranks, but yet other guns protection has 30%. smoky unlocks in high rank, but lower rankers still play with higher ranks.     

 

believe me, paints like "cleder" and "rustle" that has 32% protection used by a player are hard to kill even with Thunder m3

No, it doesn't have same damage as thunder per shot nor same damage per seconds. Don't you read the specs of each weapon properly?? You said this because obviously you never tried any of the higher upgrade weapons or have much experience in TO game to understand why things aren't available at certain ranks.

 

Obviously you haven't used thunder m2 or m3, it is overpower as it can destroy hornet m2 with cedar paint in 3 to 4 shots! Normally you can kill m2 hornet, with green paint, within 2 to 3 shots depending on distance. And do you see much smokey M0 and M1 at your rank? No? or Yes?

Oh, it is very unlikely that you might face m2/m3 smokey from your rank, unless you join high rank battle.

[ruchi2000 8]

Smokey isn't overpowered. It's just the critical shots, it's really hard to get as they have low % on getting them. That's the only reason that smokey is good. I'm really bad at smokey, it all depends in how you use them. Every gun has their own abilities.

 

And yes smokey paints are unlocked in high ranks but maybe you should try the thunder, no critical shots but it does high damage pretty good. It can also kill the hull wasp in 2 shots and sometimes hornet in 2 shots or 3. 

 

-Ruchi2000

[HeroPlayer 797]

You need to have luck when using smoky.

[r_Gold-Box-100000 80]

I'm completly agree with you .

[r_Green-Lantern0 17]

No, it doesn't have same damage as thunder per shot nor same damage per seconds. Don't you read the specs of each weapon properly?? You said this because obviously you never tried any of the higher upgrade weapons or have much experience in TO game to understand why things aren't available at certain ranks.

 

Obviously you haven't used thunder m2 or m3, it is overpower as it can destroy hornet m2 with cedar paint in 3 to 4 shots! Normally you can kill m2 hornet, with green paint, within 2 to 3 shots depending on distance. And do you see much smokey M0 and M1 at your rank? No? or Yes?

Oh, it is very unlikely that you might face m2/m3 smokey from your rank, unless you join high rank battle.

smoky has almost same damage as thunder (without critical hits), read in the garage. smoky has higher shot/min rate. while thunder does 1 shot = smoky does 3 shots in same time. thunder does 3 shots = smoky does 10 shots at same time ( also increases a chance of critical hit). 

 

i have higher rank profile which has thunder m3 and smoky m2. thunder is useless over distance and against m3 mammoth   

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

smoky has almost same damage as thunder (without critical hits), read in the garage. smoky has higher shot/min rate. while thunder does 1 shot = smoky does 3 shots in same time. thunder does 3 shots = smoky does 10 shots at same time ( also increases a chance of critical hit). 

 

i have higher rank profile which has thunder m3 and smoky m2. thunder is useless over distance and against m3 mammoth   

Oh, shouldn't you post with it then? If it is banned, what is the name of it?

[AngeIs.And.Demons 1,988]

Smoky is good at the open field, Thunder at cluttered mid-field, and Railgun for trench.

Before condisidering Smoky is overpowered, look at the maps you're in, or the position you're fighting.

 

I'm pretty sure you'll find 'overpowered Smoky's' at specific places of the map.

I have it M2, and I'm having a hard time beating Railguns if they continue to shoot and hide (Trench), or Being splash damaged even when I hide behind the walls of Iran (Cluttered mid-field)

Yeah. Smokey has never been OP