Why made smoky so overpowered?

[Asta_lavista_baby123 67]

And the video alsow gave evidence that a wasp kicked your big bad "look at me i'm a killer" mammy to kingdom come

Lol angel.of.poo plz rank up get smokey m1 and then you will see.Now go away.

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

For me, it's strange. When I had m0 smoky, I kept getting criticals all the time while the % was 5. Now, that I have upgraded to m1, I rarely get crits. Why is this?

[GoldRock 6,165]

For me, it's strange. When I had m0 smoky, I kept getting criticals all the time while the % was 5. Now, that I have upgraded to m1, I rarely get crits. Why is this?

That's just unlucky - probably having a bad day.

[FaaiqBilal2 16]

I got 4 crits with M0 smoky :3 in a row

Edited July 22, 2013 by FaaiqBilal2

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

5 crits in row its very common for smokey sometimes even 6 

[Zakintosh 39]

I did a search but It return just my topic about possible bug with smoky.

So why you closed it ??

Why

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177836

 

Please open it again. That is a legal topic.

 

Smoky has a bug.

 

For those that can´t understand the video. Look that smoky just starts its attacks, then we see critical  and then tank destroyed. Check my HP

 

How is possible it happen everytime ??

 

Cause:  chance critical is higher than 8%

 

This video is just a little example.

Who plays tanki online  knows that  we have a problem with critical of smoky

Youtube:

Tanki online: Smoky critical is BUG. It´s NOT only 8%

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJW-7IpI7TM

 

 

 

                                                  For developers:

First : fix % chance critical. It is not only 8%

Second: Look another thing that is happening:

[Put initial real percentage is 8% ]

 

If in a box , you have 12 balls (11 white color and 1 red color)

White ball (normal shot of smoky ) and  red ball (critical shot of smoky)

 

The chance that you have of taking the red ball  is  8.33%  (100 / 12 ).

But when you get a white ball, your chance of be sucessfull is increased to 9.09% (100 /11 )

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10% (100 / 10)

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20% (100 / 5)

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33.3% (100 / 3)

 

Everytime that you shot with smoky, you have more chance of make a critical hit.

When the right thing should be 8%.  All process should restart with 12 balls.

If it is what the developers did to be. Then ,add  it in description.

Anyway  the initial percentage is more high.

We know it.

Just play a bit  and pay attention.

 

                                                                                                   Don´t need be a genius to see that it is not 8%

some battles you have almost never a critical hit and some battles you have a lot.

one battle is not enough to prove.

 

(i play alot with smoky)

[GoldRock 6,165]

5 crits in row its very common for smokey sometimes even 6

Are you sure about that? Because that sounds exaggerated to me...

[ronen93 46]

Are you sure about that? Because that sounds exaggerated to me...

He's wrong about 6 critical hits in a row being that common; as in my experience, it is rare. But today I had fantastic time with smokey m2, in one of a battle, I had 5 critical hits in a row! Also, with my smokey, critical hits was frequent today compared over the past few days.

[GoldRock 6,165]

He's wrong about 6 critical hits in a row being that common; as in my experience, it is rare. But today I had fantastic time with smokey m2, in one of a battle, I had 5 critical hits in a row! Also, with my smokey, critical hits was frequent today compared over the past few days.

Fair enough; that's more believable ^_^

[ANARCHY_99 7]

Are you sure about that? Because that sounds exaggerated to me...

it is very exagerated equal to science fiction  :) not even with double power there is no chance in hell for those numbers but hey lets leave cablei dreaming those thousand crits per second 

[GoldRock 6,165]

it is very exagerated equal to science fiction :) not even with double power there is no chance in hell for those numbers but hey lets leave cablei dreaming those thousand crits per second

Yep, good idea :lol:

 

CABLEI, don't say your video is evidence that crits are too common because it's not... You've just edited out the parts without crits. Proper evidence would be an unedited length of footage.

Edited July 22, 2013 by GoldRock

[Angel.0f.Death 7]

i guess cableis next topic would be ''why made wasp so overpowered as it kicks mammys ass'' 

Edited July 22, 2013 by Angel.0f.Death

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

^ :D

[r_TUNNAR0 0]

Ronen93   

are you serious ? no differ between Tm2 and Tm3 and all other m2 guns are better then thunder m3 smoky,isida,freeze,  TWINS with unlimited energy rail m2 beats thunder m3 and so on.Thunder is the weakest

[mkmkk999 7]

its not op its pretty balanced..

[mkmkk999 7]

Ronen93   

are you serious ? no differ between Tm2 and Tm3 and all other m2 guns are better then thunder m3 smoky,isida,freeze,  TWINS with unlimited energy rail m2 beats thunder m3 and so on.Thunder is the weakest

THUNDER IS WAY OP AT M2 AND M1

[r_The-Player20 313]

Critical occurs more often, percentage is too high.

[DAKILLER32 10]

this is nothing to do with topic

 

i was this rank but now i am this rank this happened on 10.8.13. and soon i will be my bro is  and my friend is .what are you?(have to put symbol like me,to do so you go on the wiki and click ranks and click rank icon where it shows what you unlock then right click on icon and click copy image then go here and right click and click copy.tell me rank of yours please

and trough icon) i will be in about 3 years.after i will be then one more rank...

Edited August 10, 2013 by DAKILLER32

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

If you think it's Overpowered now, then just wait until MU's come. Increase the Critical chance. Lol!

[KiwiZaphod 53]

One things is for sure reading this thread - there's a lot of people who don't understand probability distributions.

 

Q1: If the null hypothesis is that Smokey has an 8% critical hit chance, what are the odds of 5 critical hits in a row?

A:  8% x 8% x 8% x 8% x 8% = 8%^5 = 0.00032768%    Very small : a bit higher odds that tossing 11 coins and getting all heads (50%^11)

 

Q2: Given player fire five shots on target in an average minute, what might be the chances of this happening over a day, a week, and a month?

A: Lets say there are on average 16,000 people in battles, and 10% of them using Smokey => that's 1,600 people. 

    - all of those people have, in a given minute a 0.00032768% chance of getting 5 criticals 

    - so the expected number of time this will happen to someone in that minute is  100% - (chance it doesn't happen) = 100% - ((100-0.00032768%)^1600) = 100-99.477 = 0.522%

    - So in 24 hours, we have 24x60 minutes = 1440 minutes.  The chance of this event not happening at all 99.477%^1440 =  0.05%

    - we are talking about 1600 x 1440 "player minutes" here through - that's 2.3 million player-minutes a day! 

    - The expected (mean) number of times it will happen in a day is 0.000327% x 1600 x 1440 = 7.3

 

So - while the chance of it happening is pretty small, there's a lot of groups of five Smokey shots fired in a day.

Small probability x lots of events means a reasonable chance its going to happen - to someone, but maybe not to you. 

 

Now this isn't accurate modelling, but its a good "order of magnitude" calculation. 

Its like lotto tickets - just because *you* don't win, doesn't mean that someone doesn't get millions. 

Edited August 10, 2013 by KiwiZaphod

[Rocael 102]

Nope. With thunder, one shot a hornet. Smokies can't do that. You need to shoot 3 times.

One shoot, If you have thunder m3 and the hornet is m0, or m1

[ognjen556 231]

I hate smokes making my rail m1 miss

 

But when I use shoot,hide teqnique it's no

Problem ;D

[TheLonelyEpic 212]

I like "cleder" paint too.  :wub: How about the rest of you?  :P

[Chronux 12]

My opinion, is that when micro-upgrades come, then 50% protection should be only for the paints that have one gun protection. Those which have 3 gun protections should have 30% each paint, to make it fairer as max and so tanks could actually be destroyed, cause the protection, double armour and first aid is what makes the game less destroying. It's people around with no fuel, with drugs, protection paints and there's no end to killing, which is why golds fall mostly for the M2 ranks. This is why I never wanna be Generalissimo; because all of those dummies will use mammoths. Then you can literally call the game Mammoths Online, can;t yah?! Stupid rebalance :@

[Remaine 4,687]

It's not overpowered.