Let's Discuss Thunder!

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

know it -.-

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

yes .. full reload, full damage, nearly full range as it affects the amount of its damage as well .. only impact force not all steps 

a little part of me just died

[Mr.Ron 106]

I and maybe all player of TO need The older Thunder BACK :unsure: :unsure: <_< <_<

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

Are you serious . 2 shots for mammoth is what we need ? Oh so then put railgun damage on twins crits on shaft and flying on mammoth

[Chameleos 157]

give us a damn faster reload,i'm tired of getting killstealed every 5 seconds because i'm 0.1s from shooting

i'm not spending 12k crystals for 0.02 seconds MU

Edited September 20, 2014 by Chameleos

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

LOOOL but i know what you feel

[pizzaslad 471]

The current Thunder is good. Good range, damage is okay. I rather have  good all around stats on a weapon then it just excelling in one

[Chameleos 157]

so slow at shooting <_<

[pizzaslad 471]

You been using Twins too much :PD

[Chameleos 157]

nono,i'm always half a second from getting a kill ._.

[trombone_ftw 734]

Ok, lets make Thunder have Smoky reload. Because that wouldn't be OP AT ALL. 

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

LOL and also lets add infinite range

[Chameleos 157]

Ok, lets make Thunder have Smoky reload. Because that wouldn't be OP AT ALL. 

they took away a good 30-40% of its damage for range and 0.1 seconds more,all i'm asking is a 0.15 lol

Edited September 20, 2014 by Chameleos

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

LOL but it was too OP 

[pizzaslad 471]

Hmm so M3 Thunder doing 40 damage? Sounds legit to me

[dilsharox 2,395]

thunder is better than smoky 

smoky would've been a a pop gun if it wsnt for that critical hit

but i like the damage thunder had b4 the rebalance

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

smoky is awesome at m3,it totaly owns any enemy if he not uses smoky protection

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

Hmm so M3 Thunder doing 40 damage? Sounds legit to me

he said about before

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

Hmm so M3 Thunder doing 40 damage? Sounds legit to me

standart thunder m3 does about 51 damage at least and even over 60 from close and is quite good ok

[splitterpoint 10,986]

thunder is better than smoky 

smoky would've been a a pop gun if it wsnt for that critical hit

but i like the damage thunder had b4 the rebalance

Depends on the map too.

Thunder has splash damage so your shots don't need to be a direct hit to deal damage.

 

Although Smoky has more knockback, more fire rate; and well yeah... the critical hit.

All of these things work if you directly hit an enemy.

 

Small burst shots with high knockback are absolutely better than Thunder in the open.

But once there are obstacles, Smoky is likely to lose.

Edited September 21, 2014 by splitterpoint

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

I think it also depends on luck too because i crit shot onto any light hull or medium is devastating

[dilsharox 2,395]

Depends on the map too.

Thunder has splash damage so your shots don't need to be a direct hit to deal damage.

 

Although Smoky has more knockback, more fire rate; and well yeah... the critical hit.

All of these things work if you directly hit an enemy.

 

Small burst shots with high knockback are absolutely better than Thunder in the open.

But once there are obstacles, Smoky is likely to lose.

thunder is good in medium maps like highland & its the best turret for TDMs

hw many shots do a smoky m2 need 2 destroy a dictator m2?

but TO decreased the critical hit so now thunder & smoky is kinda equal

self destruction cn also lead thunder 2 loose cuz if a freeze starts 2 attck a thunder its quite useless

[pizzaslad 471]

A Thunder would fair better than a Smoky when it gets frozen. If there is a prop nearby, it can the Thunder can hit it and damage the Freeze

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

...or self destruct, that's always a risk.

 

I think the Smoky vs. Thunder question goes down to the map and your gameplay style. For moderately close range combat, Smoky fits the bill, thanks to the rapid rate of fire, heavy knockback, crits, and no self damage. If you prefer to attack from longer ranges, Thunder will suit you better, thanks to the splash damage, longer range, and more reliable damage.

 

I like Smoky a little bit better, but both are great.

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

Smoky is better