Let's Discuss Thunder!

[dan146_tanker 770]

but smoky has fast reload, critical hit chance, no self damage risk and is a good attacker turret if used right :D

Smoky is weaker now. But the critical damage is not really good for getting the flag. I'd say thunder would be better, just 'cause of its splash damage. You shoot and run. With smoky it would be a whole epic shootout, unfortunately your chances of surviving all the way to your flag is very slim.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Smoky is weaker now. But the critical damage is not really good for getting the flag. I'd say thunder would be better, just 'cause of its splash damage. You shoot and run. With smoky it would be a whole epic shootout, unfortunately your chances of surviving all the way to your flag is very slim.

Hmm, I'd like to argue that. Last night i won my team the victory having 2 capped flags vs the enemy with 5. By the end of the game I caught 5 and another teammate caught 1 while the enemies only got 1 more.

 

Plus I got a 6.00 K/d AND the enemy had an M2 Freeze user! o.O

Edited November 3, 2016 by Epic_Space_Mango18

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Hmm, I'd like to argue that. Last night i won my team the victory having 2 capped flags vs the enemy with 5. By the end of the game I caught 5 and another teammate caught 1 while the enemies only got 1 more.

 

Plus I got a 6.00 K/d AND the enemy had an M2 Freeze user! o.O

Well smoky isn't really a flag-capping turret-twins would be better for that.  Plus, the critical got nerfed drastically. However, congrats on your 6 k/d.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

My profile K/d is 3.72 though and smoky works well for me in most situations such as flag capping as my best

[Heles 9,220]

My profile K/d is 3.72 though and smoky works well for me in most situations such as flag capping as my best

:huh: Why dont u post that in smoky topic?? 

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

:huh: Why dont u post that in smoky topic?? 

Maybe, but I seem to cap the flag best with Smoky....been capping way more flags than ever before

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Maybe, but I seem to cap the flag best with Smoky....been capping way more flags than ever before

Try twins ;)

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Try twins ;)

I hate twins. They're good to start but bad to keep in my opinion. I don't use em anymore. I stick with mah Smoky :D

[Heles 9,220]

I hate twins. They're good to start but bad to keep in my opinion. I don't use em anymore. I stick with mah Smoky :D

Get isida or freeze then?? 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Get isida or freeze then?? 

Neither is that great for capping flags...I mean a skilled freeze player could brush all the defenders so they can't follow him but that's more of a attack support role in which another guy would be carrying the flag away while the freeze deals with the pursuers.  

[Heles 9,220]

Neither is that great for capping flags...I mean a skilled freeze player could brush all the defenders so they can't follow him but that's more of a attack support role in which another guy would be carrying the flag away while the freeze deals with the pursuers.

Tbh it really depends on the map Edited November 7, 2016 by Heles

[TTK_229 1,080]

I have a question about splash (sorry if it's stupid). I got curious after watching the recent vlog where they say shielding your tank behind another when under attack by fire/freeze prevents damage.

 

Anyone care to explain if thunder works the same way? Like, splash hurts when you are positioned above/below/beside + behind the tank being shot at by a thunder? Do you think shielding should work with thunder too?

From my combat experiences, Thunder's splash works fine on enemies behind other enemies, or even teammates. Of course, Thunder's splash does not penetrate walls.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Tbh it really depends on the map

In larger maps the hull is more important than the turret for capturing flags. Ex. The difference between viking and titan is more important in berlin than in noise.  Whereas in Noise, the difference between shaft and twins is more crucial to your success.  I'm just pointing out that while freeze is a good attacker, it is not a *flag capturing* combo per se, more of an attack support.

[wulrus 0]

My M4 Thunder never causes the 1020hp damage that it is meant to. The best I have seen it achieve is 999, but mostly it is between 800-900, why should it vary anyway? ( Yes, I was shooting at unprotected and un-armored tanks) 3 shots to kill a wasp/Hornet now, 4 for the medium hulls  :-(

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

My M4 Thunder never causes the 1020hp damage that it is meant to. The best I have seen it achieve is 999, but mostly it is between 800-900, why should it vary anyway? ( Yes, I was shooting at unprotected and un-armored tanks) 3 shots to kill a wasp/Hornet now, 4 for the medium hulls  :-(

Personally I think thunder, even if it doesn't do the max damage, is balanced.  The damage values tend to spark in the middle between the min and max damage.  Of course, out of the max damage range the damage values are skewed even more to the minimum.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Personally I think thunder, even if it doesn't do the max damage, is balanced.  The damage values tend to spark in the middle between the min and max damage.  Of course, out of the max damage range the damage values are skewed even more to the minimum.

I ignored the thunder that was on my but while I killed the M2 freeze/hornet user (not you) who had my team's flag. I had double armor so the guy killed himself and did only a third of my health xD

 

 

 

Thunder is weak in my opinion to be honest

Edited November 7, 2016 by Epic_Space_Mango18

[wolverine848 13,097]

I ignored the thunder that was on my but while I killed the M2 freeze/hornet user (not you) who had my team's flag. I had double armor so the guy killed himself and did only a third of my health xD

 

 

 

Thunder is weak in my opinion to be honest

Sounds like in this case the Thunder user did not know what he/she was doing.

 

Attacking from behind you but ended up self-destructing because of Splash damage?

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Sounds like in this case the Thunder user did not know what he/she was doing.

 

Attacking from behind you but ended up self-destructing because of Splash damage?

Yeah. Unlike pokemon, splash works in this game...but is the biggest cause of death for thunder users xD Within rang I make sure to be touching the thunder users tank to use their turret against them. M1 dictator and m1 thunder cant even stop me...my Viking M1 is as strong as M1 dictator as well with a few MUs.

[Heles 9,220]

In larger maps the hull is more important than the turret for capturing flags. Ex. The difference between viking and titan is more important in berlin than in noise.  Whereas in Noise, the difference between shaft and twins is more crucial to your success.  I'm just pointing out that while freeze is a good attacker, it is not a *flag capturing* combo per se, more of an attack support.

I guess soo :) 

[Tani_S 736]

So I'll assume now, that Thunder's damage is just around 10% lower compared to the wiki, probably over all the ranges.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Tani_S

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

So I'll assume now, that Thunder's damage is just around 10% lower compared to the wiki, probably over all the ranges.

Yes...but it's really more important to memorize how many hits it takes to kill anything (which I'm sure you have by this point) and at what range this happens.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Yes...but it's really more important to memorize how many hits it takes to kill anything (which I'm sure you have by this point) and at what range this happens.

I look at hull and turret statistics a lot and compare them to the damage im doing, and assume my victim has protection against my turret, so if a player can take three shots, I'll assume i have to shoot an extra time to get the kill, so you dont see me shoot and run off thinking i killed the player, I make sure they die, first if they haven't killed me, that is.

[MasterMeow_3000 2]

should i get thunder m1?

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

should i get thunder m1?

At your rank, no. Thunder m2 unlocks as soon as you rank up, which makes it a waste.  If you don't plan on upgrading thunder to m2 and beyond than don't waste your time with it, especially as you will be fighting m2s.

Edited November 14, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

At your rank, no. Thunder m2 unlocks as soon as you rank up, which makes it a waste.  If you don't plan on upgrading thunder to m2 and beyond than don't waste your time with it, especially as you will be fighting m2s.

I tried thunder yesterday when i got the commando kit on my backup...strong but i didnt like it xD