Let's Discuss Firebird!

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

 

based on same modification, same level of protection and drugs,

 

in drug war, freeze always kill firebird first, and once done, freeze hit health kit to restore half of the health and go for next enemy from back.

while firebird just dead without getting any kill.

 

even health kit is nerfed, but as long as drug is on, afterburn has no use if people can cancel it with health kit or a freeze friend.

 

freeze;s pure damage ouput is more useful, as even both side use health kit during attack, freeze can take more than 4000 health + 1000 repair with its damage, but fire will run out of fuel first and can't deal last bit of damage while taking freeze damage.

 

also, freeze;s freeze effect will help freeze to evade firebird's cone angle and reduce overall damage from fire, and at same time take a health kit to enjoy full restoring health while sitting at back of firebird, and firebird's health kit will not bring them much help, since freeze does more 6000 damages at m4 in one go without break.

 

also even freeze run out of fuel first, while the firebird still freezon there can;t do anything, while freeze re-loading the fuel and continue do 2nd round of circle dance.

 

 

At m2 and above, unless the Freeze can ambush the fire and keep out of the flames, it loses to firebird more often than not.

 

Firebird is that OP.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

At m2 and above, unless the Freeze can ambush the fire and keep out of the flames, it loses to firebird more often than not.

 

Firebird is that OP.

Firebird is literally the only turret that requires less skill than twins and lobbing shots off ledges with magnum IMO.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Firebird is literally the only turret that requires less skill than twins and lobbing shots off ledges with magnum IMO.

* on the current situation 

[thesquarerootof2 165]

Firebird needs a nerf to its heating rate. I can literally get touched by the flame for like 1-2 seconds and good-bye 1/3 to half my HP

Not the max temperature, the rate of heating

[venomlazarus7 40]

Firebird needs a nerf to its heating rate. I can literally get touched by the flame for like 1-2 seconds and good-bye 1/3 to half my HP

Not the max temperature, the rate of heating

+++++

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Firebird needs a nerf to its heating rate. I can literally get touched by the flame for like 1-2 seconds and good-bye 1/3 to half my HP

Not the max temperature, the rate of heating

The heating rate is the one thing that makes firebird so OP.

 

Idk if nerfing the heating rate will make fire balanced, but I do know that it'll make it less OP.

[sythos 87]

Firebird can be stopped. I once used 50 percent protection against it on a diff acc and it did nothing to me.

 

But why did the afterburn do so much damage (like 300 hp per second for m1)

[Shadowdweller01 0]

I don't think firebird is that bad...ever since I upgraded my defense module  :D One of the reasons I think it seems to inflict so much damage is because the heating range seems like it's actually farther than the flame appears to travel.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I don't think firebird is that bad...ever since I upgraded my defense module :D One of the reasons I think it seems to inflict so much damage is because the heating range seems like it's actually farther than the flame appears to travel.

Still doesn't defeat the fact that firebird is OP because of the heating rate and the constant damage from the burn.

Edited October 13, 2018 by DieselPlatinum

[wolverine848 13,097]

I don't think firebird is that bad...ever since I upgraded my defense module  :D One of the reasons I think it seems to inflict so much damage is because the heating range seems like it's actually farther than the flame appears to travel.

Firebird is the absolute worst now.  All it has to do is touch you for 2 seconds and game over.

 

Mid ranks don't have very high modules so they really have no defense against it.  28%... does almost nothing to prevent dying.

[sythos 87]

Firebird is the absolute worst now.  All it has to do is touch you for 2 seconds and game over.

 

Mid ranks don't have very high modules so they really have no defense against it.  28%... does almost nothing to prevent dying.

Im guessing you already have 50% protection agaist firebird

[wolverine848 13,097]

Im guessing you already have 50% protection agaist firebird

It's higher than most of my protections at... 48% or thereabouts.

[sythos 87]

It's higher than most of my protections at... 48% or thereabouts.

Then you shouldn't have to worry about the after burn  ;)

[wolverine848 13,097]

Then you shouldn't have to worry about the after burn  ;)

That's like saying if you have 50% twins module you don't have to worry about that Titan Twins... oh yes you do  B)

 

I die plenty from Firebird, even with 48% module equipped.  It is that OP right now.

[sythos 87]

That's like saying if you have 50% twins module you don't have to worry about that Titan Twins... oh yes you do  B)

 

I die plenty from Firebird, even with 48% module equipped.  It is that OP right now.

Its not a problem with me tho

[splitterpoint 10,986]

That's like saying if you have 50% twins module you don't have to worry about that Titan Twins... oh yes you do  B)

 

I die plenty from Firebird, even with 48% module equipped.  It is that OP right now.

Plain old modules will not cut it anymore. Turrets become increasingly more powerful.. but drones.. Soon we'll have drones that temporarily boost your protection module. Perhaps we might even MU it to 110% or something so that it actually adds 10% damage as health to the enemy.

 

I assume Tanki hates permanent items and wants to overshadow them by consumables.

[thesquarerootof2 165]

If you have to pay hundreds of thousands of crystals just to make it "not a problem" I don't think it's called "balanced". 

[Shadowdweller01 0]

Any one of the ultra-close range turrets will kill you in the blink of an eye if they get close enough and are of competitive upgrade.

Edited October 16, 2018 by Shadowdweller01

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Plain old modules will not cut it anymore. Turrets become increasingly more powerful.. but drones.. Soon we'll have drones that temporarily boost your protection module. Perhaps we might even MU it to 110% or something so that it actually adds 10% damage as health to the enemy.

 

I assume Tanki hates permanent items and wants to overshadow them by consumables.

Bingo. Drones are going to become more powerful and influential in games... the devs are just trying to figure out how to make as much money from it as possible :ph34r:

[Benefactor 6,888]

Bingo. Drones are going to become more powerful and influential in games... the devs are just trying to figure out how to make as much money from it as possible :ph34r:

Batteries - the new drug for drones.

Drones - the new drug for enhancing supplies.

[thesquarerootof2 165]

 

A picture is worth a thousand words

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

 

 

A picture is worth a thousand words

 

 

Firebird needs a nerf, it's OP.

[enri_chill 265]

Batteries - the new drug for drones.

Drones - the new drug for enhancing supplies.

unfortunately I fear you are correct....we will see. It might be the end of TO for me.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Ahh well, when they see that people have bought/invested enough in Firebird protection modules they'll nerf it down again just like they did with Freeze. ''Oh boy, we decided it was too powerful so we decreased the burning time and burning damage''

A good timing to nerf it down would be right after the christmas sales, from business perspective.

 

Seriously, there's a test server for a reason, this stuff can't be overlooked just like that. There's something fishy going on here.

[Benefactor 6,888]

 

A picture is worth a thousand words

tl;dr  :P

 

I had a TDM like that - the other team was all Firebird + Wasp (and 2 or 3 Hornets). I wish I had the software to take a video of that battle. My side actually got slaughtered.