Let's Discuss Ricochet!

[Loackie 269]

^Vette is exactly right. However, if Chameleos is fighting with his/her peers, and uses M1 Rico when the majority of people have M2 combos...

Edited December 6, 2014 by Loackie

[Vettefan22 145]

^Really? Since Update 207 and the vote between Rail, Rico, and Thunder all I have seen is that Rico is OP, and an unfair weapon to use.

 

@Chaemelos: LOL M1 Ricochet, and you get really good results? Who do you play against? (No, I'm actually serious. That is probably the main factor in my argument.)

He got a 22.0 DL in Noise with M1 Wasp and M1 Rico. I was there to witness it, it was a M2 battle.

[Loackie 269]

^Omg, Chameleos has to admit Ricochet is some parts OP. There is absolutely no way he can't say that. That's a 22 D/L. I joined brig battles with my M1 Firebird pre 207, and I barely broke even at 1. That is overpoweredness. That comment up there just supports the whole reason I can't stand Ricochet. "pro skills" highly unlikely. Wasp is best hull ingame, but it is such a perfectionist's hull. you make one mistake, you are finished. (instead of counting stars, i'll be counting dislikes brb)

Edited December 6, 2014 by Loackie

[Thomas11239 366]

Calm down man

[Loackie 269]

http://oi62.tinypic.com/a4ubr6.jpg

[Chameleos 157]

i have titan,viking,rico,thunder,smoky,isida,freeze m2,i HAVE an m2 combo.

and yes,m1 ricochet is still hard to use compared to m2.

actually,m2 smoky performs way better than rico.

Edited December 6, 2014 by Chameleos

[pizzaslad 471]

http://prntscr.com/5dwd6d

 

Rico/Wasp all the way. Had it with Moonwalker at first. The Freeze/Viking had 250 points when I joined.  :) Other team was fierce; there was a   M2 Rico/Viking/Inferno, M1 Twins/M2 Mammy Inferno and a M1 Smoky/M2 Hornet. We had myself, the M2 Freeze/Viking and a M1 Thunder/ M2 Mammy/ Python. I felt bad for the Freeze with all the Infernos but my Rico helped out a lot. Every time they would come, we could team up on them with the Thunder supporting. Good game.

[Loackie 269]

Key word: "Rico"

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

Tanki physics aren't the same as they are in real life you know -_- Weight has the most importance here, maybe centre of a mass a tiny bit. But Dictator reacts to shots better than Viking sooo....

 

nope. even the tanki admins try to bring effects of the game as close to reality as possible (except the graphics)... if you notice, lots of players and many an article have stated that the dictator is rather unstable whereas the viking is not... people who go for a dic mainly like the strong armour that comes along with it and not the stability. read my earlier examples to understand

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

Please get your definitions straight first. People refer to their lower-ranked alternate accounts as "noob accounts" here.

 

Also, please tell me where you learned that "noobs" can only be people under WO1. It generally refers to people who aren't skilled, and that doesn't always have a correlation to rank. A Generalissimo could still be called a noob by his/her teammates if he/she was really bad at playing.

 

i agree with you here. you have made a very valid point. but about the fact that rico m2 is powerful, i cant say that it is not true... i think all this while the m0 modification of rico is op, but as it progresses it becomes equal compared to other ranks

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

I'm very well aware that "noob" and "newbie" are interchangeable, but most uses of "noob" I see use the skill definition. Hence why I said "generally".

 

Can anyone here with M2 Ricochet tell me if the rate of fire increase from a few MUs is noticeable or not? I'm getting it at New Year's, so information on what to MU would be useful.

 

Hmm, Ricochet's projectile radius increases from M0-M3. I wonder if that's a noticeable difference.

 

that probably wont be too useful as i have shot many tanks with it and missed because the centre of the projectile wasnt as close to it as it should have...

also i read from the earlier comments that the final mu is heavily upgraded. so i think it would be best to wait for your m3

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

Bros and bras, rico is just a swell weapon. Be ignorant if you like, say it sucks, but in the end if you choose to develop skills with it it is the ultimate weapon. Plus who doesn't wanna shoot globs of plasma across the battlefield?

 

hail, hail oh intelligent high ranker (not sarcasm ok)... but still if more than one generalissimo says this, it must be true. down with all those players who say people who love rico ar noobs ok (i am saying this mainly cuz i love rico, dont hate :D)

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

Chameleos: "i think i enjoy using rico to prove people like that wrong... the ones who say it's for noobs,that is" PFF I can name a bucketlist of reasons why it IS a noobs' turret. I'll name the major ones here:

 

- Severe hitbox manipulation, almost as bad as rail

- Autoaim is almost as OP as Railgun's is. (90% autoaim for Rail, don't tell me I'm saying lies)

- ROF is overpowering so Rico almost always wins duels assuming same hull is used, and no protection

- Projectile speed has been buffed, only being able to dodged by a Wasp or better, Wasp gets hit 50% of the time.

- If you get a noob account and get it to somewhere along WO4 or so, seregants can use M0 rico and get equal results to something like Smoky or Firebird

 

(I am probably one of those most biased anti-rico posters so beware GL changing my mind about Ricochet)

 

one point... by the way you put forward these points it sounds as you say rail is a noob weapon too.... which it is not. i am in no position to argue about this because of the fact that i am not a rail user, but lots of articles exist that rail is not... go check those out.

second u say that rico is ALMOST AS bad as rail in certain aspects, so in these features, rico is less nooby than rail?

rico's range is very short and doesnt even go the full length of sandbox, which is probably another point to increase its standards of being a noob weapon.

i do agree with your point of rico being op at m0, but at later stages it gets nerfed to the point that people think its the worst weapon at the m1 stage (until they progress further in the game and find out it was actually equall compared to other weapons. in the m3 stage, you cant say that it is as op as before.

projectile speed is still slow at m3 stage, when shooting at the max range. you will notice a huge difference between immediate firing weapon and rico...

bouncing effect is a whole new skill to be mastered which doesn't exist with other weapons

like you i am also a person whose mind is very difficult to change too so we have something in common :D but i am just trying to say that rico is equally as powerful compared to others or even less powerful...

lets continue this argument in a civil manner and not resort to trolling methods like other people as this will benefit others and ourselves. i did not mean to be insultive in any way and it was unintentional if i was being rude

[Chameleos 157]

I'm very well aware that "noob" and "newbie" are interchangeable, but most uses of "noob" I see use the skill definition. Hence why I said "generally".

 

Can anyone here with M2 Ricochet tell me if the rate of fire increase from a few MUs is noticeable or not? I'm getting it at New Year's, so information on what to MU would be useful.

 

Hmm, Ricochet's projectile radius increases from M0-M3. I wonder if that's a noticeable difference.

strange i didn't answer this,i have 8th stage in reload and the difference is a lot noticeable compared to a raw m2 (which i have on my main so i know perfectly cx)

[donut70 97]

The developers need to face the fact that they have given ricochet a rather insurmountable* advantage in dpm compared to everyone except the firebird, (* assuming equal skill here). Don't tell me that it is fair when the clip is depleted. If a rico user has allowed that to happen,( without having fought 3 tanks at once) then they truly are a noob player. I fully realize that there are skilled players who use this and are dominant with it, I am not calling the turret a noob weapon, but that it is overpowered to the point that some actual noobs never need to use it to it's fullest extent in order to win. Even the unskilled players using rico are a more deadly enemy then a skilled opponent who is using any other turret.

[Truthteller 4,204]

Loackie, on 04 Dec 2014 - 06:58, said:

Chameleos: "i think i enjoy using rico to prove people like that wrong... the ones who say it's for noobs,that is" PFF I can name a bucketlist of reasons why it IS a noobs' turret. I'll name the major ones here:
 
- Severe hitbox manipulation, almost as bad as rail
- Autoaim is almost as OP as Railgun's is. (90% autoaim for Rail, don't tell me I'm saying lies)
- ROF is overpowering so Rico almost always wins duels assuming same hull is used, and no protection
- Projectile speed has been buffed, only being able to dodged by a Wasp or better, Wasp gets hit 50% of the time.
- If you get a noob account and get it to somewhere along WO4 or so, seregants can use M0 rico and get equal results to something like Smoky or Firebird
 
(I am probably one of those most biased anti-rico posters so beware GL changing my mind about Ricochet)

 Almost as bad as railgun? where have you been these days dude. Railgun is amazing.

Also saying that rico is for noobs is wrong rico takes allot of skill to master at higher ranks the hulls get faster but your bullet speed is so slow

50% of the time hits wasp? you make me laugh, If your talking m0 wise where everyone is slow maybe its like that but at m2 m3 it takes allot of skill to use rico such slow plasma thingy speed. You don't even have valid points to backup your statement

[Truthteller 4,204]

Who carss

#TankiOnlineIsGoingDownhill

If you think this is downhill you should have played tanki in 2009

[Promissory 569]

If you think this is downhill you should have played tanki in 2009

What do you mean? It was good back then. These latest updates are ruining the game...

[Loackie 269]

@Truthteller: I said the autoaim was bad on Railgun, not the weapon itself. (Personally, Railgun is actually a fairly nice weapon, I am just terrible at using it and don't feel like spending extra to use it properly) I meant to put 90 degrees on there, not 90 percent. I have been hit by autoaim like that several times. Also, I have circled around a Ricochet with a Wasp, the hitbox lag does force you to get hit 50% of the time unless you are at the range where Rico is not used. Also, you're at the point where M1s are used. I can't use M2 wasp even If I wanted to. Even so, being hit with a wasp on nitro by a noob that doesn't even turn turret = morale killer. And Ricochet is a "noobs' wep" because nobody uses it properly correctly. It should take a lot of skill to be good at it. You should be rewarded for using the gimmick. You should not be using it as a frickin' Twins. I was trying to make a brief list when I was about to sleep, so I probably screwed up on making the list.

[icekrieger 7]

I find it unfair that M3 Ricochet unlocks at Commander. M3 Railgun, Shaft and Thunder are all hugely powerful and yet they unlock far earlier. It could take many months and maybe even a year to rank up enough to finally get M3 Ricochet. How are people with M2 supposed to compete when nearly everyone except Firebird which also unlocks at Commader has M3 guns? It is very expensive to MU the damage past 3 and I want to save my crystals because I want to get M3 Viking later on and M3 Rico is very expensive. I think M3 Rico should unlock a few ranks sooner.

[pizzaslad 471]

If it were, then it'd be too OP.

 

The fact is Rico is very powerful at M2. When it's unlocked (at 1st LT) it's a monster over M1's and the weaker M2's. But when you rank up and get the higher grade M2's and M3's, Rico isn't all that powerful anymore. When you're a General with it M2, and everyone else has M3's, they won't be saying how OP it is anymore.

  That's why it is strong at lower ranks --- because it gets nullified at higher ones

[IRAQ 16]

Rico is the best ! ))

[DestroyerZ10 299]

The only reason why M0-M1 can be considered good in the lower ranks is because everyone's either low on Health or slow. Slow speed = you can't escape those balls.

lol ikr

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

@Truthteller: I said the autoaim was bad on Railgun, not the weapon itself. (Personally, Railgun is actually a fairly nice weapon, I am just terrible at using it and don't feel like spending extra to use it properly) I meant to put 90 degrees on there, not 90 percent.

 

ACTUALLY the "auto aim" is much higher than railgun, check the wikis to see what i mean. but let me tell you, most feel that rico s actually UP so telling them that its going to be nerfed is like putting fuel to the fire. you have an idea of whats going to happen lol. and since the game is FILLED with low rankers in their alts too, tanki is going to have some serious problems

[fufususumumu1 240]

 

lol ikr

 

i personally felt that rico was terrible at m1... not much difference actually... i feel that rico shouldnt be as powerful at m0 but slightly more powerful at m1 compared to the current m1 modification