Let's Discuss Smoky!

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Now I have to wonder if Smoky M4 is that awesome now. I haven't touch my Smoky M3 in a long time.

 

Many Zeus paints tankers make them hard to destroy.

No, you already answered the question yourself. ;)

Smoky M4 is good, not awesome.

 

Zeus paint is a real trouble, especially in a non drugging Pro Battle where it makes Smoky a

pretty useless pea-shooter.

Very beautiful paint...but I don 't like it at all! :D

 

Zeus is widely spread. I guess mostly because of the Firebird protection and than closely

followed by the Smoky protection.

The protection against Freeze is awesome too, but less needed these days.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

I miss the old one...

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

Smoky is stronger than Thunder? Yes, it often is. Don 't blame Smoky for it, blame the Devs. WHAT? The Devs made the smoky. That made no sense.

It was OP for a long time, but Thunder is not the turret it used to be anymore IMO. The smoky was overpowered b4. That is what make this gun ridiculous.

(being an early unlocked M3, it should even be supposed to be weaker)

 

Nowadays Smoky 's critical hit is not so "critical" anymore.I don't understand why you'd say this when the critical hit is now 75+ And then there's the fast reload. Smoky relies a lot more on it 's regular shots nowadays. Those regular shots are far from overpowered, but the fast reload and impact force make up for it. I'd certainly say the reload makes up for the weak no critical hits....and a mile more!

 

Smoky is strong, but turrets like Firebird, Vulcan and Rico are stronger. They can deal

a lot of damage in a blink of an eye. True. I have a special hated for the firebird. One second and I burn to death in my wasp.My titan with more than twice the armor burns to death almost just as fast. If this gun isn't an OP/"In house cheat"  then I don't know what is.

Smoky needs more time (and skill IMO) to do that same kind of damage. Try to hold on and get the best out of your Thunder and be satisfied when you know you 've done the best with your combo that you can. Even if that means you don 't win. It's  hard to be satisfied when I believe that the guns mention is unfair and has made this game far less fun.

 

I personally fight with Hornet/Smoky, DP 's ftw and no repair kits at all.

That way I have few armour and a challenge in each battle, a lot of room for skill improvement and

certainly speed which IMO equals fun.

 

If TO is only about winning I would get myself a combo with a heavy hull and a turret like

Twins, Ricochet or Vulcan, or a medium hull with Firebird. I just bought a Titan and a m3 and a m2 thunder. I fair out better, but not by much against the firebird and the toy gun. Complement it with a huge pile of repair kits and other supplies: Oh hell no! I DON'T abused drugs. never will! I I get shot to hell from junkies, I'll either take it or leave, but I will NOT use drugs to compete. I;m old school Tanki. I sit on a HUGE pile of drugs because I REFUSE to use them as a strategy. 

and I would always be bored...

 

I hope there's a rebalance soon. I'm getting serious about quitting.

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

Just buy Savannah in the 40% paint sale if it bother you that much. :ph34r: It I buy one paint for protection, then i'm vaulnerable to other guns. damn if i do, damn if I don't. :huh:

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

Oh is that fatal attraction guy again. How's your topic about these "in house cheats"? Oh wait it's closed. Maybe because you were insulting everyone who is using firebird, twins or Vulcan?!

 

 

Smoky isn't a a toy gun, you have thought of it as a toy gun! Probably because of it's looks and because it hasn't anything special. Well guess what, it has. The critical hits!

 

Smoky is not that much OP. as I've heard from some older tankers, it is just a shadow of himself right now. It used to have much more impact and if a critical strikes, boom! instant kill. I don't know who these "older tankers  you talk about, but this older old school tanker knows you're wrong.

 

And, ranks don't matter that much in TO ;)  Ranks and experience no longer matter like it did back in the good old days. That's why the game is as good as it use to be.

 

And I don't insult "everybody" just people like you. ;)  I have a smirk /snarky smilingly face, too.

 

Edited September 13, 2015 by Fatal-Attraction

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

 

Oh is that fatal attraction guy again. How's your topic about these "in house cheats"? Oh wait it's closed. Maybe because you were insulting everyone who is using firebird, twins or Vulcan?! That 's not a very nice thing to do: though I can understand his feelings towards these weapons... :D

 

Smoky isn't a a toy gun, you have thought of it as a toy gun! Probably because of it's looks and because it hasn't anything special. Well guess what, it has. The critical hits! Let them call Smoky whatever they want, as long as it defeats them in battles...

 

Smoky is not that much OP. as I've heard from some older tankers, it is just a shadow of himself right now. It used to have much more impact and if a critical strikes, boom! instant kill. True, it was definitely OP back than. Multiple critical strikes in a row if lucky... :wub:

 

And, ranks don't matter that much in TO ;) Correct

 

As far as I can ascertain, you may be the most rational person I've spoken to on this board.........looking at these replies. I wonder why the hell do I even post on this board? :blink:

 

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

^

ok Sir flooder, you surely give great talks.

 

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And for other people who arent crying like this guy,

my new paint :D

Edited September 13, 2015 by LeIouch_Vi_Britannia

[kostas604 106]

 

I don't know who these "older tankers you talk about, but this older old school tanker knows you're wrong.

Ranks and experience no longer matter like it did back in the good old days. That's why the game is as good as it use to be.

 

And I don't insult "everybody" just people like you. ;) I have a smirk /snarky smilingly face, too.

 

You mean experience and ranks don't matter now but they used too??? Back when a generalissimo and a lieutenant had the same garage??? O_o

 

I'm not insulting everyone, I'm not that kind of person, I just get really really pissed by your posts! :)

[kostas604 106]

ok Sir flooder, you surely give great talks.

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And for other people who arent crying like this guy,

my new paint :D

:O

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

:o

hm?

[ChrisDry 1]

:rolleyes: O.K If you say so, Sergent Major.

Well, at least I beat the hell out of everyone B)

[kostas604 106]

hm?

Amazing... :O

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

Smoky is stronger than Thunder? Yes, it often is. Don 't blame Smoky for it, blame the Devs. WHAT? The Devs made the smoky. That made no sense. It does. Devs did the balance...

Instead of bashing the Smoky why not try it. It 's the closest turret to Thunder.

Personally I used Smoky M1 till Thunder M1 and than all the way Thunder M1 till Thunder M3. Second love for sure.

Now I 'm back to Smoky. At M3 it mostly beats Thunder M3. Having both I think I know.

It was OP for a long time, but Thunder is not the turret it used to be anymore IMO. The smoky was overpowered b4. That is what make this gun ridiculous. So in a way your saying it 's not OP anymore (b4). And it isn 't. If you want an OP turret nowadays you better take Vulcan, Firebird or Rico IMO. Vulcan at M3? Ridiculously OP. Definitely needs a nerf.

Nowadays Smoky 's critical hit is not so "critical" anymore.I don't understand why you'd say this when the critical hit is now 75+ And then there's the fast reload. As you may know the Devs shifted the focus towards regular shots instead of criticals. Critical on the old Smoky could theoratically happen shot after shot: sometimes did. And the critical had a higher damage.

Now there is always a number of shots between them. At Smoky M3 6 till 9 shots. Quite a lot isn 't it?

The critical is still handy, but in a fight I rather rely on my faster reload and will always try to knock off-aim/course.

Smoky relies a lot more on it 's regular shots nowadays. Those regular shots are far from overpowered, but the fast reload and impact force make up for it. I'd certainly say the reload makes up for the weak no critical hits....and a mile more! True, but it 's no match against Rico

for example. It 's fast, but not that fast.

 

Smoky is strong, but turrets like Firebird, Vulcan and Rico are stronger. They can deal

a lot of damage in a blink of an eye. True. I have a special hated for the firebird. One second and I burn to death in my wasp.My titan with more than twice the armor burns to death almost just as fast. If this gun isn't an OP/"In house cheat"  then I don't know what is.

My "Nemesis" is Vulcan, closely followed by Firebird and Rico. And especially by the first two: skills? who needs them... <_<

Smoky needs more time (and skill IMO) to do that same kind of damage. Try to hold on and get the best out of your Thunder and be satisfied when you know you 've done the best with your combo that you can. Even if that means you don 't win. It's  hard to be satisfied when I believe that the guns mention is unfair and has made this game far less fun. It 's your perception, but I do get your feelings. When I get beaten by an

obvious unskilled player (by the way he moves etc.) with an OP combo I 'm not happy either. But I just have to cope with it if I want to keep playing.

 

I personally fight with Hornet/Smoky, DP 's ftw and no repair kits at all.

That way I have few armour and a challenge in each battle, a lot of room for skill improvement and

certainly speed which IMO equals fun.

 

If TO is only about winning I would get myself a combo with a heavy hull and a turret like

Twins, Ricochet or Vulcan, or a medium hull with Firebird. I just bought a Titan and a m3 and a m2 thunder. I fair out better, but not by much against the firebird and the toy gun. Not bad for a toy gun hé? ;)

Maybe it 's time to try another weapon than Thunder. (if you have the crystals that is)

Complement it with a huge pile of repair kits and other supplies: Oh hell no! I DON'T abused drugs. never will! I I get shot to hell from junkies, I'll either take it or leave, but I will NOT use drugs to compete. I;m old school Tanki. I sit on a HUGE pile of drugs because I REFUSE to use them as a strategy.  Like that! :)

and I would always be bored...

 

I hope there's a rebalance soon. I'm getting serious about quitting. Thunder should get a buf. -_-

 

Edited September 13, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

Instead of bashing the Smoky why not try it. It 's the closest turret to Thunder.

 

One word answer: HELL NO! I count this as all one word.....don't like it? Sue me! :P

 

I have [REMOVED] and screamed about these OP/In house cheats. Now after all the yelling and complaining I went out and bought one, what would that make me? I'll give you a hint. It starts with a "H" I have my principles.

 

I was a little tempted to go from my stocked smoky to the M3, but I couldn't do it. And I won't. Besides, If was to spend a butt load of crystal and buy the m3 smoky or any other "in house cheat" gun, It will probably get nerf sometime in the future. I smirk as I see people buy these guns for this reason. They're in for a bad surprise.

 

It 's your perception,

 

Oh god! this irritates me to no end. People will try to argue with me that so and so gun isn't OP. They will insist that I'm wrong.....even though I know these guns are OP from DIRECT OBSERVATION! :angry:

 

 

Thunder should get a buf

 

Thunder got nerfed a while back. True, the thunder is weak before modding it out, but after about six micro upgrades, It's damn nice.

If micro graded enough, for it has the kill power of a critical hit of the smoky, but with every shot fired. So in the long run, I think the thunder is a better gun than the smoky. But it takes time and crystals to get there.

 

FYI I do well for snipping with my thunder, as well as the shafts! LOL and my kill power is far more than the shaft. And my position isn't given away with a beam.  :D

 

To all those who have mocked me for "Crying". First I don't care what you think. Second, All of those who think I'm crying are the lame no talents who can beat a top tier player like me because of your [REMOVED] OP/inhouse cheats. Let us see who will kill the hell out of who if you have the exact same weapon as I have. [REMOVED]

Edited September 20, 2015 by DarkOperative
Please keep your language clean.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

One word answer: HELL NO! I count this as all one word.....don't like it? Sue me! :P

 

I have - screamed about these OP/In house cheats. Now after all the yelling and complaining I went out and bought one, what would that make me? I'll give you a hint. It starts with a "H" I have my principles.

 

I was a little tempted to go from my stocked smoky to the M3, but I couldn't do it. And I won't. Besides, If was to spend a butt load of crystal and buy the m3 smoky or any other "in house cheat" gun, It will probably get nerf sometime in the future. I smirk as I see people buy these guns for this reason. They're in for a bad surprise.

 

Oh god! this irritates me to no end. People will try to argue with me that so and so gun isn't OP. They will insist that I'm wrong.....even though I know these guns are OP from DIRECT OBSERVATION! :angry:

 

 

Thunder got nerfed a while back. True, the thunder is weak before modding it out, but after about six micro upgrades, It's damn nice.

If micro graded enough, for it has the kill power of a critical hit of the smoky, but with every shot fired. So in the long run, I think the thunder is a better gun than the smoky. But it takes time and crystals to get there.

 

FYI I do well for snipping with my thunder, as well as the shafts! LOL and my kill power is far more than the shaft. And my position isn't given away with a beam.  :D

 

To all those who have mocked me for "Crying". First I don't care what you think. Second, All of those who think I'm crying are the lame no talents who can beat a top tier player like me because of your - OP/inhouse cheats. Let us see who will kill the hell out of who if you have the exact same weapon as I have.

You got a rather strange way of communicating:

it sometimes feels like I 'm making some kind of trip to the Stone Ages to be honest,

and why would I want to sue you? I can 't even afford a decent lawyer...

 

Having principles is nice, but if they frustrate you so much... :wacko:

 

Also I don 't see Smoky getting a nerf soon. It 's already nerfed a lot compared to the old crit Smoky.

Smoky has always been my dream weapon since I played the M1, so I choose the M3 for that reason.

Really the only thing I don 't like about Thunder is the relatively slow reload, but that becomes quite

an issue when you get used to gameplay with the fast Smoky: I miss the Splash though!

 

And I could easily return the smirk favour. You played Thunder when it was OP, as did I.

So now Thunder is somewhat nerfed I should have a smirk on my face according to your story?

 

About direct observation: what did you think those other Tankers did?

Your not the only one playing this game and allowed to have opinions about it afaik.

 

Than I read your happy story about you using Thunder and MU 's and I can only think:

so, what 's the problem now? :huh:

 

About the last rant. I just had a Future DM Pro battle without supplies and often while I fired shot after shot

at an opponent in the end I simply got killed by the same Rico, Firebird or the "why even fight back Vulcan".

(and with Smoky I 'm just as often a kill stealer as I 'm also preparing "fast food" for other Tankers to take away)

 

Still I had a very good fight and I did pretty well. Had fun and I 'm still confident about my own skills.

Will be honest: did throw in some "Vulcan noob" in the chat, but that 's how far I go.

You also seem to be confident about your skills, so I simply have a hard time to understand your ongoing anger.

Edited September 20, 2015 by DarkOperative

[Cor7y 13,862]

 

 

 

[The_Smoky_Project 25]

I love Smoky! I have both Smoky and Wasp M1 MU'd up!

 

I have max damage, reload speed, and rotation speed on my turret. I have max HP and turning speed on my hull. Working on Impact Force and Max speed.

[Dusk 1,629]

M2 wasp, m2 smoky and cedar=amazing. Im so mobile, and with wasp speed and smokys ROF ( Rate Of Fire ), I'm hella OP!

[classyplebs 1,786]

M3 Hunter M3 Smoky <3

[kostas604 106]

^ :O

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Hopefully there'll be an XT version in the near future... Wasp/Smoky XT :D

[sunhawk 93]

The smoky is my one true love. The gameplay is so beautiful. I have five lower accounts to play with other turrets and hulls, but this account is smoky-hunter only. Single focus. I always come back to smoky.

 

Two of my lower accounts also use smoky, because I just can't resist.  ;)  With them I also like playing smoky with the wasp and the titan--especially the wasp. The maneuverability with the rapid-fire is awesome. But the hunter is more resilient, and nimble enough.

 

Smoky requires skills.  It's a precision instrument. (That's why I consider the ricochet to be my arch-nemesis; that impact force that keeps coming just a little too fast--and why I wear rico protection.) Also you need tactical movement constantly, and hefty dogfighting chops with smoky. But you can make it sing.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

The smoky is my one true love. The gameplay is so beautiful. I have five lower accounts to play with other turrets and hulls, but this account is smoky-hunter only. Single focus. I always come back to smoky.

 

Two of my lower accounts also use smoky, because I just can't resist.  ;)  With them I also like playing smoky with the wasp and the titan--especially the wasp. The maneuverability with the rapid-fire is awesome. But the hunter is more resilient, and nimble enough.

 

Smoky requires skills.  It's a precision instrument. (That's why I consider the ricochet to be my arch-nemesis; that impact force that keeps coming just a little too fast--and why I wear rico protection.) Also you need tactical movement constantly, and hefty dogfighting chops with smoky. But you can make it sing.

Hunter could well be the best hull for Smoky. It is the most allround hull that allows you to play whatever and wherever.

Owning both Viking M3 (on alt) and Hunter M3 (Hunter M3 from last Tankers Day) I prefer Hunter,

because as you rightfully say: it 's nimble.

It 's also has a firm ride now: when I played Hunter M3 in in testserver a long time ago it felt like somewhat on ice,

or TO improved that in one of the last balances or it was somehow due to my own interpretation, it now handles

really nicely!

 

Owning both Hornet M4 and Hunter M3 I will use both. Hunter might often be a bit more effective, nothing beats the

thrill of speed of the light hulls. :)

 

Smoky requires skills: yes indeed and Ricochet is also my biggest problem on the battlefield.

(I mostly play DM, TDM and CP)

Huge numbers of Rico 's at the highest ranks.

I have Prodigi but I 'm saving now for Clay for obvious reasons...

 

Firebird is also a huge problem, but I can often outrun it or fight it from a distance.

 

my true nemesis is Vulcan. It used to be Shaft for a long time, but Shaft is balanced now.

It can still be an awesome weapon, but Shaft requires skill now.

Vulcan is simply OP and can be used with great success without any skill at all. 

Luckily when Vulcan numbers have grown to TO 's satisfaction and profit I 'm sure it will get a decent nerf.

Till than everything with Vulcan is possible: even a buf... <_<

 

 

Smoky is a great gun in regular battles and absolutely a beast when using Double Powers.

In supplyless Pro Battles with plenty of Zeus and other Smoky paints around the weak regular shots

make it an underpowered weapon in my experience.

Here the Ricochets and Firebirds rule. Dealing huge amounts of damage in a very short time.

Vulcans recently have joined the party.

One day I will partly join the Rico pack, but I will never give up on Smoky: my one true love.  ;)

Edited September 18, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[splitterpoint 10,986]

B)

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

B)

 

 

 

Yep, Smoky rules with DP. ;)

 

 

 

 

All battles, also the regular ones are always fought without using repair kits... B)

 

 

 

 

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Pro Battles without supplies are great! but definitely a challenge: Smoky 's regular shots without DP really aren 't that impressive,

not to mention the decent number of "Smoky" paints like Zeus who fully MU 'd (and those paints often are) cut those

already weak shots again in half... -_-

 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers