Let's Discuss Smoky!

[Benefactor 6,888]

 

Should i buy paladin as soon as it unlocks in shop?

Or should i buy another m3 kit.Love every weapon but thunder,vulcan,isida,freeze,and striker.Not sure about shaft.

I can buy anything under 80 usd.

 

I am aiming for Paladin. It used to be Prometheus I wanted, but Paladin (Smoky) gives me at least some range to fight with. I didn't mind the damage nerfing of Firebird, but they took away the one aspect that made it dangerous (and made up for its short range) was the damage it could do through tanks.

 

Plus it is annoying to be hit by Smoky when you don't know where it's coming from.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I am aiming for Paladin. It used to be Prometheus I wanted, but Paladin (Smoky) gives me at least some range to fight with. I didn't mind the damage nerfing of Firebird, but they took away the one aspect that made it dangerous (and made up for its short range) was the damage it could do through tanks.

Wasn't the "dangerous aspect" that was taken away the afterburn? ;)

 

Plus it is annoying to be hit by Smoky when you don't know where it's coming from. Yes- smoky is a perfect stealth weapon. Good smoky users can hit multiple players for minutes and they still won't find you. :lol:

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Smoky- some say it is a bit OP...

 

Smoky is your basic shell-shooter. Now lets think how the critical hits work...it would be a shot that landed at the right angle, or hit a vulnerable spot. But if you make it like that then you would also have to consider shots that bounce/ricochet off the armor, or hit a really protected spot and don't inflict much damage.

 

Hence "unlucky shots". These shots would do less damage than a normal shot in the way a critical does more, with the same chance of occurring. This could be added to Smoky. Then you would have an (M3) alteration that removes unlucky shots and makes criticals more common, while increasing reload time, decreasing turret turning speed, and decreasing up/down auto-aim.

 

"precision targeting?" If you think about it all of the alteration's changed aspects make sense when you consider the purpose is to land solid, accurate shots. :)

[Benefactor 6,888]

 

I am aiming for Paladin. It used to be Prometheus I wanted, but Paladin (Smoky) gives me at least some range to fight with. I didn't mind the damage nerfing of Firebird, but they took away the one aspect that made it dangerous (and made up for its short range) was the damage it could do through tanks.

Wasn't the "dangerous aspect" that was taken away the afterburn? ;)

 

Plus it is annoying to be hit by Smoky when you don't know where it's coming from. Yes- smoky is a perfect stealth weapon. Good smoky users can hit multiple players for minutes and they still won't find you. :lol:

 

Afterburn still exists. But now you cannot attack multiple tanks unless they were side-by-side. The tank behind is shielded by the tank in front now when it concerns Firebird/Freeze.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Afterburn still exists. But now you cannot attack multiple tanks unless they were side-by-side. The tank behind is shielded by the tank in front now when it concerns Firebird/Freeze.

Well- afterburn still exists but besides M4 it has ceased to be of much worth.

 

As for the rest, of course I know that. :P

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Well- afterburn still exists but besides M4 it has ceased to be of much worth.

 

As for the rest, of course I know that. :P

That moment M0 Firebird damages you just enough to where it's borderline non existent after burn kills you o.O

[vvfoo 30]

I am aiming for Paladin. It used to be Prometheus I wanted, but Paladin (Smoky) gives me at least some range to fight with. I didn't mind the damage nerfing of Firebird, but they took away the one aspect that made it dangerous (and made up for its short range) was the damage it could do through tanks.

 

Plus it is annoying to be hit by Smoky when you don't know where it's coming from.

True

[vvfoo 30]

Smoky- some say it is a bit OP...

 

Smoky is your basic shell-shooter. Now lets think how the critical hits work...it would be a shot that landed at the right angle, or hit a vulnerable spot. But if you make it like that then you would also have to consider shots that bounce/ricochet off the armor, or hit a really protected spot and don't inflict much damage.

 

Hence "unlucky shots". These shots would do less damage than a normal shot in the way a critical does more, with the same chance of occurring. This could be added to Smoky. Then you would have an (M3) alteration that removes unlucky shots and makes criticals more common, while increasing reload time, decreasing turret turning speed, and decreasing up/down auto-aim.

 

"precision targeting?" If you think about it all of the alteration's changed aspects make sense when you consider the purpose is to land solid, accurate shots. :)

Dude................Why do you always answer so smart like a college teacher or something. :D

[Shady_Lewie 2]

I love Smoky but Critical hit isn't much help as its 1 to 2 hundred more hit points than its regular shots. Alterations! Alterations can be resolved with every turret like one can be more dominant than the other. Example, Smoky's alterations for increased impact force is 30% and if I use the other alteration for increased damage for critical hit and minimum damages shouldn't it raise Smoky's impaction force? After all taking away smoky critical hit and most unique part of if it, should be at least raised it's impaction force if damage is raised. But those are my thoughts. 

[Amagi 1,728]

Dude................Why do you always answer so smart like a college teacher or something. :D

I don't see how that's a problem...

 

 

I love Smoky but Critical hit isn't much help as its 1 to 2 hundred more hit points than its regular shots. Alterations! Alterations can be resolved with every turret like one can be more dominant than the other. Example, Smoky's alterations for increased impact force is 30% and if I use the other alteration for increased damage for critical hit and minimum damages shouldn't it raise Smoky's impaction force? After all taking away smoky critical hit and most unique part of if it, should be at least raised it's impaction force if damage is raised. But those are my thoughts. 

 

Please, stop using that font at that size...

 

Back on topic: As a Shaft user, Smokies are the bane of my existence, and that M1 Knockback alt makes my life just that little bit harder >.>

[hailfireelite6 0]

I think it is a decent gun. Not to hard to use, and the reload is relatively fast. Not the best, but definitely not the worst.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Dude................Why do you always answer so smart like a college teacher or something. :D

Are you saying he's not smart? Maybe he's very good at hiding that. :P

[Truthteller 4,204]

It's pretty intimidating I hate the sound and pushback it is pretty annoying and you cannot escape it..

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

 

Back on topic: As a Shaft user, Smokies are the bane of my existence, and that M1 Knockback alt makes my life just that little bit harder >.>

Interesting it seems to be Railgun and Rico for me, depending on the map.

[sunhawk 93]

Back on topic: As a Shaft user, Smokies are the bane of my existence, and that M1 Knockback alt makes my life just that little bit harder >.>

As a Smoky user, Ricochet has always been the bane of my existence, more so back when it was OP and every second turret was one, but Smoky requires a precise aim on the move and getting constantly battered by those incoming balls is very frustrating. That's why I bought Spark back in the day and brought it up to 38% rico protection. Gives me time.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

As a Smoky user, Ricochet has always been the bane of my existence, more so back when it was OP and every second turret was one, but Smoky requires a precise aim on the move and getting constantly battered by those incoming balls is very frustrating. That's why I bought Spark back in the day and brought it up to 38% rico protection. Gives me time.

Rico can be a major PITA unless you can dodge 1 or 2 plasma balls. If you do it's Advantage Smoky.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Smoky has critical hits? Pfft, what a joke.

[Tani_S 736]

Smoky has critical hits? Pfft, what a joke.

Critical shots are about 30% stronger than the standard ones.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Critical shots are about 30% stronger than the standard ones.

And being weakened. 30% isnt much and they're lowering it .-.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

I love Smoky but Critical hit isn't much help as its 1 to 2 hundred more hit points than its regular shots. Alterations! Alterations can be resolved with every turret like one can be more dominant than the other. Example, Smoky's alterations for increased impact force is 30% and if I use the other alteration for increased damage for critical hit and minimum damages shouldn't it raise Smoky's impaction force? After all taking away smoky critical hit and most unique part of if it, should be at least raised it's impaction force if damage is raised. But those are my thoughts. 

IF you want people to read your comments, don't make them so annoying to read by making them big, bolded with color and italics -_-

[wolverine848 13,097]

And being weakened. 30% isnt much and they're lowering it .-.

And increased re-load... LMAO.   If they keep it up Thunder reload will be faster than smoky. And the damage isn't even close.

 

There's... just... no more words....

[vvfoo 30]

NOOOO SMOKY IS NERFED EVEN MORE :( Smoky m2 is what i hoped to be my strongest turret and just as i buy it it gets nerved. :( And there is huge lag after the update yesterday,i can't stand it my fps was usually 2-6 fps! :(

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I haven't used smoky for a while but if tanki should nerf anything it should be hammer.

[vvfoo 30]

I haven't used smoky for a while but if tanki should nerf anything it should be hammer.

Yep.

[Benefactor 6,888]

NOOOO SMOKY IS NERFED EVEN MORE :( Smoky m2 is what i hoped to be my strongest turret and just as i buy it it gets nerved. :( And there is huge lag after the update yesterday,i can't stand it my fps was usually 2-6 fps! :(

They tend to have impeccable timing when you just got the turret you wanted and when you are nearly finished MUing it to the max they nerf it.