Let's Discuss Smoky!

[thesquarerootof2 165]

#reduce m4 smoky reload time to 1 second.

#and reduce its damage and impact force by 33% 

 

:P

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

#and reduce its damage and impact force by 33% 

 

:P

Why it's impact force? It's criticals are literally non-existent at m4 except when shooting at long range.

[thesquarerootof2 165]

Why it's impact force? It's criticals are literally non-existent at m4 except when shooting at long range.

To compensate for your 33% decrease in reload. I'd never be able to get a break from being knocked flying if you could shoot with current Smoky's impact force every second  :D

 

And yea im far from being M4 but it does seem like the crit is mostly useless at higher modifications

Edited August 13, 2018 by thesquarerootof2

[wolverine848 13,097]

Why it's impact force? It's criticals are literally non-existent at m4 except when shooting at long range.

You mean the criticals make little difference in the overall damage (except at long range) ?

 

I mean, their frequency at m4 is no lower than any other m-level, but yes, their effect on average damage (with 5 shots) is only around +9%.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

You mean the criticals make little difference in the overall damage (except at long range) ?

 

I mean, their frequency at m4 is no lower than any other m-level, but yes, their effect on average damage (with 5 shots) is only around +9%.

That's exactly what I mean.

[Strikechard123 241]

Vulcan and thunder weak damage: 50%. Smoky weak damage: 10%. Buff weak damage pls

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Vulcan and thunder weak damage: 50%. Smoky weak damage: 10%. Buff weak damage pls

#Re-old-Smoky  :wub:  :wub:

[HairDryer 25]

Let's not buff Smoky.  It is good as it is.  At a moment Smoky is not drawing too much attention, therefore only few have Smoky protection.

I am doing just fine with my Smoky M3+15 at my alt account.   :ph34r:

[wolverine848 13,097]

Let's not buff Smoky.  It is good as it is.  At a moment Smoky is not drawing too much attention, therefore only few have Smoky protection.

I am doing just fine with my Smoky M3+15 at my alt account.   :ph34r:

I have smoky m3 17/20 and it sits in my garage unless I want to play for a lark.  There are far better m3+ turrets out there...

 

And Buff just announced!  B)

Edited September 5, 2018 by wolverine848

[thesquarerootof2 165]

And Buff just announced!  B)

One that was never needed and also to the one part of Smoky that needed a buff the least but ok

Edited September 5, 2018 by thesquarerootof2

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I might test out the new smoky on my wet diaper account, but I'm not gonna post my thoughts on it because they will be invalid since I don't have m2 smoky on any of my accounts.

[Genuine_Noob 34]

good job dev

unironically 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

my m3 smoky now has the min range of the m4 before the rebalance and critical damage slightly higher than the m4 before the rebalance. I'm not sure how much the weak damage has increased because the wtupid wiki takes eternity to update as usual. 

[thesquarerootof2 165]

tfw when the devs buff already good turrets

[Heles 9,220]

Lol, the range of thunder

Man, i really want smoky now :p

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Time to roll out the Wasp again!

Feeling is all lost though, man I suck.

 

But my favorite turret Smoky is back for sure. This particular buff fits the mid-fielder.

[GorgoBlesk 831]

There are still old Smoky stats in wiki. I need to know the new stats because I do not know if the 'new and better' Smoky is even worth playing.

 

What do you think about the buffed Smoky and Striker? Are these turrets more common? Do you think that the buff was enough to raise these UP turrets from garage dust?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

my m3 smoky now has the range of m4 smoky before the buff as well as critical damage slightly higher than the m4 before the buff. idk about weak damage tho... stupid inefficient wiki...

[Viking4s 10,791]

 

Merged

[Tani_S 736]

There are still old Smoky stats in wiki. I need to know the new stats because I do not know if the 'new and better' Smoky is even worth playing.

 

What do you think about the buffed Smoky and Striker? Are these turrets more common? Do you think that the buff was enough to raise these UP turrets from garage dust?

I think it was a buff to get Smoky to the new turret balance level. This balance level was mainly caused by the big buffs for the short rangers (Isida, Fire & Freeze).

 

They said this about Smoky:

Smoky will become more viable in a long range fight. To do this, we will slightly increase its critical damage and the maximum hit range, and significantly increase turret’s effectiveness at middle-to-long range, so the damage fall off will be noticeably weaker and will start at a longer range than now.

The range of Vulcan and Thunder were changed before, so I am pretty sure Smoky got the same change:

• Range of min. damage 70 m -> 100 m (assumed)
• Range of max. damage 140 m -> 150 m (in-game info for M4)
• Critical damage 770 -> 800 (in-game info for M4)
• I tested some far-distance shootings and I'd get from it that the weak damage was increased from 10% to 50% now (same like Thunder). Finally  :D

 

I didn't test Striker much, but from my point of view, Striker's change is small but noticable. Faster rockets, better homing, shorter aiming time. Still not enough to make it balanced on long-term.

[thesquarerootof2 165]

Smoky is so OP at mid-range though, did they really need to also make it good at long-range? 

Edited September 9, 2018 by thesquarerootof2

[nemoetnihil 388]

Smoky is so OP at mid-range though, did they really need to also make it good at long-range? 

Maybe at your rank when all the buyers have it M1 10/10. At high ranks, it loses this advantage. Please stop acting like you know everything about a turret when you only have experience with one upgrade level.

[MachineoWar1000 0]

burn

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

on DP a critical hit from a Smoky M1(+0mu) oneshots a Wasp M0 (+2..3mu's).

As Overdrives give a perfect source of dp and criticals are pretty common, the critical dmp feels wrong.

 

but as said so often... the real problem is the x2 factor of the DP. Balance would be way easier, if that x2 would not be as tough

[thesquarerootof2 165]

on DP a critical hit from a Smoky M1(+0mu) oneshots a Wasp M0 (+2..3mu's).

As Overdrives give a perfect source of dp and criticals are pretty common, the critical dmp feels wrong.

 

but as said so often... the real problem is the x2 factor of the DP. Balance would be way easier, if that x2 would not be as tough

Agreed. I think the main advantage of crits should be their infinite range, not their damage. 

 

I mean Smoky has quite enough damage already with the regular hits

and the impact force