Let's Discuss Smoky!

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Titan/Smoky with freeze alternator and sabotage drone is absolutely best line of defense. Pissed of 4 organized clan members!

 

You  try to get this flag:

the ines drop randomly underneath your tank? or do they form a circle around the middle?

[Benefactor 6,888]

the ines drop randomly underneath your tank? or do they form a circle around the middle?

They form a circle around the middle.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

They form a circle around the middle.

so if i understand correctly... dropping a mine makes it impossible for a fire/freeze to circle you?

[Benefactor 6,888]

so if i understand correctly... dropping a mine makes it impossible for a fire/freeze to circle you?

You could say that, if you stay in the circle. But they still might have some range outside the circle.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

You could say that, if you stay in the circle. But they still might have some range outside the circle.

 

assuming the red one is the circle... using it's diameter i can assume that the green one will be it's size.. this means that the range they have to stay away would have reduced their dps to be lower than that of smoky... and the tile they'd have to take to circle around would be too slow to escape smoky's turret rotation

[Benefactor 6,888]

 

assuming the red one is the circle... using it's diameter i can assume that the green one will be it's size.. this means that the range they have to stay away would have reduced their dps to be lower than that of smoky... and the tile they'd have to take to circle around would be too slow to escape smoky's turret rotation

 

The circle isn't that big. Maybe one Viking hull from the center.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Non, they all disappear. But, you can place them fairly often. I think it was 40 seconds? 

 

 

 

It is hands down best drone for defense! But I barely ever play defense, so for attacking, assault fully MU-d is soo good, as your drugs literally never expire, because it prolongs active time by 15s and cooldown is 12s. 

 

 

But, if being honest, this thing needs to be nerfed or mine protection needs to be equiped! It makes CTF battles fairly boring, as it's nearly impossible to cap. One game we had me and isida placing mines(while he was healing also), I think there were like 150+ mines near flag, not even slight chance for enemy team. So, if there would be 1 freeze with new alternation, which kind of ''ignores'' protections and freezes enemy and then smoky with cyro alternation, both 19/20(yes, you can place 8 mines at 19 Mus) MU-d Sabotage drones and one isida in defense, rock solid defense! 

 

 

 

Since it's Smoky topic, freeze alt is also good for attacking, With light hull, you can just freeze them and drive around while shooting and doing decent damage without getting any yourself! Whoever might consider it, BUY IT! Different gameplay with one of the most enjoyable gameplay turrets.

So with the freeze alt - every shot is treated exactly the same - with drop-off to 50% (weak dmg) beyond min damage range?

 

(I must have been thinking of the other drone that preserves X mines even with death of mine-layer... "Miner drone"?)

Edited November 8, 2018 by wolverine848

[thethiefofvictory 339]

Titan/Smoky with freeze alternator and sabotage drone is absolutely best line of defense. Pissed of 4 organized clan members!

 

You try to get this flag:

*insert pic*

Give me the equipment I need and a teammate (at most two) who can work with me and you're dead.

 

Cyro Smoky should come up close and do the freezing, meanwhile from further off a Railgun (Hyperspace probably, to deal with the Isida) or Magnum fires. Titan's only way of defending against them is freezing them, but there's a Cyro Smoky firing at him too, freezing him. Should he focus at him instead, he and Isida get damaged. A lot. Once they die, mines gone, easy escape. I see where you're coming from, though... this drone and alt really is ridiculous. I for one can't think of a way to get past that minefield without killing the Titan, which is nigh impossible without teamwork and coordination. Maybe if Hunter's upcoming OD can defuse mines too....

[enri_chill 265]

Give me the equipment I need and a teammate (at most two) who can work with me and you're dead.

 

Cyro Smoky should come up close and do the freezing, meanwhile from further off a Railgun (Hyperspace probably, to deal with the Isida) or Magnum fires. Titan's only way of defending against them is freezing them, but there's a Cyro Smoky firing at him too, freezing him. Should he focus at him instead, he and Isida get damaged. A lot. Once they die, mines gone, easy escape. I see where you're coming from, though... this drone and alt really is ridiculous. I for one can't think of a way to get past that minefield without killing the Titan, which is nigh impossible without teamwork and coordination. Maybe if Hunter's upcoming OD can defuse mines too....

But I believe there are a number of mines that do not disappear after the tank is destroyed.

Edited November 9, 2018 by enri_chill

[wolverine848 13,097]

But I believe there are a number of mines that do not disappear after the tank is destroyed.

Different drone.  See post 5757...

[enri_chill 265]

Different drone.  See post 5757...

Got it. Sorry about that. I missed the original post and thought it was dealing with the new miner drone or whatever it is called. I definitely think the mining stuff ruins a game. Unless it is a clan war, at which time folks should know each other and create a strategy to overcome the barriers of mines. For the MM games, however, it is insurmountable due to lack of communication and defined roles.

Edited November 9, 2018 by enri_chill

[wolverine848 13,097]

Got it. Sorry about that. I missed the original post and thought it was dealing with the new miner drone or whatever it is called. I definitely think the mining stuff ruins a game. Unless it is a clan war, at which time folks should know each other and create a strategy to overcome the barriers of mines. For the MM games, however, it is insurmountable due to lack of communication and defined roles.

Pretty much.  was in a battle last night and we had the drone that deposts extra mines.  I kept healing the tanker to keep those mines alive.

 

We must have had at least 30 mines surrounding our flag. Enemy did not cap once.

 

They might be "encouraging" Mine module purchases...

[enri_chill 265]

They might be "encouraging" Mine module purchases...

They might, but I don't think any tank could survive 10+ mines on top of normal fire from enemies. Even at 50% prot and DA...

[Genuine_Noob 34]

does anyone regret buying autocanon ?

the only thing it has accomplished is make smoky more annoying.

i mean its it's one thing playing with it and feeling its shortcomings,another is being on the receiving end of it, just a crap twins if you ask me.

don't get me started started on the price tag 180k it's too expensive for what it's worth

compact fuel duplet stable plasma minus field uranium incendiary band sledgehammer destabilization round and electromagnetic accelerator ( tested and some owned ) are all terrifique alterations yet far less expensive.

i can't be the only one that's feeling disappointed ??

[enri_chill 265]

does anyone regret buying autocanon ?

the only thing it has accomplished is make smoky more annoying.

i mean its it's one thing playing with it and feeling its shortcomings,another is being on the receiving end of it, just a crap twins if you ask me.

don't get me started started on the price tag 180k it's too expensive for what it's worth

compact fuel duplet stable plasma minus field uranium incendiary band sledgehammer destabilization round and electromagnetic accelerator ( tested and some owned ) are all terrifique alterations yet far less expensive.

i can't be the only one that's feeling disappointed ??

I wasn't able to afford that alt with other goals I had. I did buy the incendiary round however. I think that is a fairly good bargain for the alts. The unexpected benefit has been a "tagging" effect once the round kicks its afterburn on the enemy's hull. You can then track them for a while and finish them off.

[Benefactor 6,888]

does anyone regret buying autocannon ?

I don't. The rapid fire acts like a tracer to make sure you are on target when the CRIT comes around. If you get rid of the rapid-reload, it's almost like firing a regular Smoky, but with CRIT shots only.

[Genuine_Noob 34]

I wasn't able to afford that alt with other goals I had. I did buy the incendiary round however. I think that is a fairly good bargain for the alts. The unexpected benefit has been a "tagging" effect once the round kicks its afterburn on the enemy's hull. You can then track them for a while and finish them off.

i'm not a fan of the crit damage so maybe it would have been wise to invest in cryo and incendiary

 

I don't. The rapid fire acts like a tracer to make sure you are on target when the CRIT comes around. If you get rid of the rapid-reload, it's almost like firing a regular Smoky, but with CRIT shots only.

fair point, but tankers are starting to get fed up with it and you can notice more and more protection against smoky and its one of the turrets that modules effectively shuts down it threat.

also do you think the heavy price is justified?, knowing well that alterations like duplet and electromagnetic accelerator who have much more impact on the game play of thier respective turrets with virtually no downside are far less more like halve the price exist.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Genuine_Noob

[Desty 275]

so if i understand correctly... dropping a mine makes it impossible for a fire/freeze to circle you?

 

Well, they kind of drop in small circle. I tried playing with this drone as a attacker in CTF mode, but mines do not really help a lot, because drugs literally don't last enough nowadays, so when you get the flag, either double armor or speed will disappear making you vulnerable target. Sabotage drone is only good for defending. And smoky with freeze effect is hands down the best option.

 

This is how they appear:

 

 

 

So with the freeze alt - every shot is treated exactly the same - with drop-off to 50% (weak dmg) beyond min damage range?

 

(I must have been thinking of the other drone that preserves X mines even with death of mine-layer... "Miner drone"?)

 

Yes sir, freeze alt is just like normal smoky without critical hit, also, it kind of feels that penetration power has been lowered slightly compared to unaltereted smoky. But still, it's a great turret for defending - also, it's unbelievably fun circling around heavy hull with a freaking smoky haha. Large hulls have no chance of capping flag or getting away from smoky as they can't really move between freezes. 

 

Freeze protection does make frozen time shorter!

Edited November 17, 2018 by Desty

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

Well, they kind of drop in small circle. I tried playing with this drone as a attacker in CTF mode, but mines do not really help a lot, because drugs literally don't last enough nowadays, so when you get the flag, either double armor or speed will disappear making you vulnerable target. Sabotage drone is only good for defending. And smoky with freeze effect is hands down the best option.

 

This is how they appear:

thanks. the circle seems pretty big.. have you tried it in dm? i can imagine killing enemies besude me with mines.. 

 

also, the big circle seems good with 9 extra mines but does is the circle smaller if you don't MU it so much? like if you only get 3 extra mines will the circle be smaller? cause if that's the case a wasp could just drive inbetween.. I'm asking because spening 1.1 million crystals to buy and MU it is out of the question for me

[JPfan077 36]

I thought of what my favorite combo was. It was Smoky and Mammoth, so I called it my SOUL TANK. So my point is don't buy everything in the beginning, just experiment with the options and also wait until you can get every gun and hull and then choose. But thats just my opinion I was a buyer and I regretted it. So just find your SOUL TANK, and stick with that.  ;) byeee!!

[Michael828 817]

does anyone regret buying autocanon ?

the only thing it has accomplished is make smoky more annoying.

i mean its it's one thing playing with it and feeling its shortcomings,another is being on the receiving end of it, just a crap twins if you ask me.

don't get me started started on the price tag 180k it's too expensive for what it's worth

compact fuel duplet stable plasma minus field uranium incendiary band sledgehammer destabilization round and electromagnetic accelerator ( tested and some owned ) are all terrifique alterations yet far less expensive.

i can't be the only one that's feeling disappointed ??

 

What makes this one interesting is the higher rate of criticals.

[u812ic 1,629]

How much is the Cryo alt affected by freeze protection?

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

does anyone regret buying autocanon ?

the only thing it has accomplished is make smoky more annoying.

i mean its it's one thing playing with it and feeling its shortcomings,another is being on the receiving end of it, just a crap twins if you ask me.

don't get me started started on the price tag 180k it's too expensive for what it's worth

compact fuel duplet stable plasma minus field uranium incendiary band sledgehammer destabilization round and electromagnetic accelerator ( tested and some owned ) are all terrifique alterations yet far less expensive.

i can't be the only one that's feeling disappointed ??

 

The extremely fast firing rate makes it seem and feel like using an m12 smoky.

[Desty 275]

How much is the Cryo alt affected by freeze protection?

Highly, 50% prot cuts it half, so opponent is barely frozen. Would say like a second.

[tankhd.jr 24]

Seeing alot of smoky protection nowadays

annoying because it affects it way more than other guns like firebird

i don't really understand it, are smoky alts really that op? they all seem eh to me, espcially after they nerfed the autocannon. I have smoky protection myself but never feel like i need it