Let's Discuss Freeze!

[trombone_ftw 734]

^ Tanki should try rebalancing prices instead of rebalancing stats for once.

[sackpilot 9]

freeze is king now

my freeze m2 has better damage and turning speed than isida m3

freeze needs to be more expensive now due to the damage buff, my opinion on what the freeze price should be is below

freeze m0 : 2000 crystals unlock: sergeant

freeze m1:  36900 crystals unlock: warrant officer 3

freeze m2: 103600 crystals  unlock: major

freeze m3: 223100 crystals  unlock: general

freeze m4 : 1337000 crystals

Fire M2 is still more OP than freeze M2, but I agree that freeze is way too cheap. Warrant 5 for M2 freeze?! That's insane.

 

DPS makes it more dangerous against groups, but the hull rotation makes it suicide to attack an enemy firebird. Freeze is now more of an offencive than a defencive weapon.

[Hayagriva 107]

Freeze is a bit OP now :) I like it.

It goes best with viking for me.

No OP man, funcionality is destroyed.

Tank drive.

You are ded.

No tactical advantage.

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

I was thinking a bit about freeze.

By my opinion (before the try of balance)

- freeze was OP in lower ranks

- freeze and underpowered as M3

 

This was because the freeze effect and tank slowdown was the same in all M-Levls.

 

If tanki would

- go back to the old freeze (like around xmas 2014)

- adapt the freeze effect (less in M0, M1, more in M3)

- sticks with the old unfreeze time

- keeps the old energy consumption and DPS

 

-> this weapon would be perfect.

-> If tanki considers to increase demage on many weapons to catch up with the Hammers.. ok, then increase freeze demage slightly (but not much. Freezes live of wizzed gameplay and not by demage like firebirds).

 

 

Honestly... I doubt if anyone from tanki officials still reads here. I heard no official comment in this kinds of threads since a week (remember we had two threads.. the open test and the real battle scenarios now).

[roadkill78 39]

Fire M2 is still more OP than freeze M2, but I agree that freeze is way too cheap. Warrant 5 for M2 freeze?! That's insane.

 

DPS makes it more dangerous against groups, but the hull rotation makes it suicide to attack an enemy firebird. Freeze is now more of an offencive than a defencive weapon.

i got freeze at warrant officer 5 and dominated

[Chameleos 157]

I did the same,then halfway through my career it got extremely nerfed in damage and i stopped using it.

[trombone_ftw 734]

I did the same,then halfway through my career it got extremely nerfed in damage and i stopped using it.

Have you tried using it again after this latest update?

[Chameleos 157]

Have you tried using it again after this latest update?

A little,but using an m2 against m3s doesn't have the same effect as using an m3 against m3s

[sackpilot 9]

Thay have a saying, don't fix what ain't broken.

 

You listening dev's?

[trombone_ftw 734]

Thay have a saying, don't fix what ain't broken.

 

You listening dev's?

go post this on Thunder thread ok

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

Freeze is pretty annoying now. The turret rotation speed constriction is bothering me a lot more than the hull speed restriction- unless your hull has a high rotation speed, you basically can't shoot anything.

[Amon166 90]

I didn't like the freeze effect nerf either; only the turrets will get frozen, which wouldn't work for a freeze user when attacking an enemy.

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Freeze is pretty annoying now. The turret rotation speed constriction is bothering me a lot more than the hull speed restriction- unless your hull has a high rotation speed, you basically can't shoot anything.

using nitro when frozen helps eitht the turret rotation

[deadmanrising 715]

Unless the developers take off the silly new freezing i wont be using it, its no longer effective at freezing and i'd still rather choose a fire than put up with it

[michael470 13]

Freeze is pretty annoying now. The turret rotation speed constriction is bothering me a lot more than the hull speed restriction- unless your hull has a high rotation speed, you basically can't shoot anything.

No you don't have to rotate, just pull or lean back a bit and shoot when your turret gets frozen.

[M1-A2 840]

Is anybody else having an issue with the new freezing effect?

When I get hit, I'm still frozen and slow more than a minute after the freeze has stopped shooting me.

So I'm wondering if it's just me that has this problem, or is it a glitch on tanki's side?

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

that is on purposse.

unfortunately.

[killmoo 101]

I think freez is under power.

IT was OP befor update.

To make it a ok gun that dose not only work with hornet and wasp tanki needs to make it slow tank turn more and maby make it slow gun turn less. Otherwise every freez user will start using fire more like me ,I only use freez because my fire is m2 and my freez it m3. 

 

 

 

tanki please fix freez 

[I3ANNED 1,693]

Don't like getting frozen but after the rebalance you hardly get slowed down but still I hate getting frozen and I don't use the gun myself as I'm more of an attacker than a defender, also after getting freezed say I killed the enemy or he stopped freezing me the effect will still carry on for a minute or so. M1-A2 also states this in his reply.

Edited April 29, 2015 by I3ANNED

[Amon166 90]

I think freez is under power.

IT was OP befor update.

To make it a ok gun that dose not only work with hornet and wasp tanki needs to make it slow tank turn more and maby make it slow gun turn less. Otherwise every freez user will start using fire more like me ,I only use freez because my fire is m2 and my freez it m3.

 

 

 

tanki please fix freez

Freeze should affect BOTH the turret and hull, like it did before. And no, Freeze wasn't OP before re-balance, although it was popular. Edited April 29, 2015 by Amon166

[roadkill78 39]

I don't like the new freeze mechanism where the hull freeze isn't as effective but the turret freeze is a lot more effective

[IIBB 78]

Freeze changed a lot, i miss the old one )

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Freeze was

- overpowered in M0 (because the enemies hulls and turrets turn soo slow)

- right perfect in M1 and M2 (was fine)

- underpowered in M3 (becauer the enemies hulls and turrets could already spin so fast)

 

So instead of changing the whole gun, it would be great to return to the old characteristics, and adapt the freezing-rate according to the M-Level.

Then It would be a real good and balanced gun.

[samlauncher 106]

Either Raise the rank of m3 to commander, m2 to captain, m1 to warrant 3 and increase the price or nerf it, TOO OP like firebird with faster reload and 2 sec more shooting time

[roadkill78 39]

I might go back to using firebird