Let's Discuss Freeze!

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I made a huge mistake and bought freeze M3.

 

This turret is useless, especially with my weak hornet M3. In fact, I would say firebird M2 is much more powerful than freeze M3, due to afterburn. The freeze effect is barely noticable and I usually get killed before I even reach the enemy tank (if they are a drugging thunder or smoky). What a joke.

sorry for you to hear that..

It matches my experience as well.

 

Freeze is only nice at M2 - and there only, if you can manage to make use of the large ammount of energy it has. As soon as Fire M2 unlocks, Freeze becomes useless again.

 

You could try to attack at longer range from behind a corner, as your freeze effect takes about 3..4sec to kick in massively. The speed of builing up the Freeze Effect is independet of the distance. Once the enemy is froozen you can come closer and kill.. or just freeze the next one (you have plenty of energy).

 

Or you mount it on a medium hull, like viking.

 

I hope, Tanki changes something about freeze M0, M1 and M3. Only M2 is fine and useable (each considering the ranks it is available and the other turrets you face).

[Amagi 1,728]

I made a huge mistake and bought freeze M3.

 

This turret is useless, especially with my weak hornet M3. In fact, I would say firebird M2 is much more powerful than freeze M3, due to afterburn. The freeze effect is barely noticable and I usually get killed before I even reach the enemy tank (if they are a drugging thunder or smoky). What a joke.

 

I haven't got the motivation to save all those crystals again so I'm probably going to quit in the new year. I will buy emerald paint with my remaining crystals, but I doubt it will make a big difference.

 

The game is unbalanced. It is dominated by viking druggers, titan and thunder. I find no enjoyment in this game any more.

All you do is complain, complain and complain. Jeez.

 

Try practicing your Freeze M3 for a while, try getting used to its damage and effects. It's playstyle is much more different than Firebird. I've seen Freeze-Hornet players topping the leaderboards with minimal drugs used. It's not the turret, it's the user.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I've seen Freeze-Hornet players topping the leaderboards with minimal drugs used. It's not the turret, it's the user.

or the drugs.

 

Freeze's low energy consumption (9 seconds constant damage if remember it right) paired with double Damage (somewhat about 120..140 damage per second !!) are like a constant stream of pure death.

At the same time while the Double Damage reduces the damage the user itself takes to a half/third (if my enemy dies in half the time, he can hardly turn around and wont even scratch me. And if the user was a hornet he might pickup an DA on the way and attack only then)

 

9sec x 140hp = 1260 points of damage - a skilled user that attacks from the right side (go behind all of em and take out one after another rolling them up from behind) can take out half a team within those 9 seconds.

 

But I dislike to say "it's a good turret" just because of the fact, that it excells on DD.

 

ps: Don't judge me by my rank.. I used freeze for months. Quite effective by the way (as other told me and the scoreboards showed me).

But it simply does not pay off at M3, compared to other equipment available here.

Edited December 27, 2015 by BlackWasp777

[stawp_thundertime 275]

All you do is complain, complain and complain. Jeez.

 

Try practicing your Freeze M3 for a while, try getting used to its damage and effects. It's playstyle is much more different than Firebird. I've seen Freeze-Hornet players topping the leaderboards with minimal drugs used. It's not the turret, it's the user.

Yeah :/ i got scared tf out of me here, when i said i was going m3 freeze.

Bought it

Love it

I also bought hammer m3 in the fear it wont get as good discount again.

And i have to say, even tho i only have viking m2 & ½ freeze and hammer work beautifully.

I also find hornet freeze, and hammer pretty good. And freeze titan is supreme on small cps. Titan hammer on the other hand is the best drug combo i've ever seen.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

All you do is complain, complain and complain. Jeez.

 

Try practicing your Freeze M3 for a while, try getting used to its damage and effects. It's playstyle is much more different than Firebird. I've seen Freeze-Hornet players topping the leaderboards with minimal drugs used. It's not the turret, it's the user.

What can I say, I'm a sensitive guy.

[I7itI3ull2 45]

Buying freeze M2 was a waste. I never use it.

True

[r_IMT-5390 150]

I was just reading comments on freeze..just to let you know guys,you can't use all turrets on all maps..freeze can be hell on small/medium maps..even worse thing for enemy then fire (have both m4),especially on CP poly..skilled user,with hours and hours of usage can be on top of every battle..before introduscing format battles,when there was no RU/EN/GER,etc  servers,you could take freeze/hornet/picasso (when picasso was doubtless top paint for CTF)..visit 1st or 2nd server and choose between some epic CTF maps like barda,bobruisk,red alert,kungur,there was many great maps,not like today when real battles are so rare..I'll say again..choose wisely your battles(maps) when u use freeze..it can be beast,but you need time to learn how to play with it..

[george_ace 57]

I have an MUd Freeze M2, and even though I also have a well MUd Firebird M2, I still use the Freeze M2 from time to time. I find it especially useful in DMs since it is harder to steal kills from a Freeze than from a Firebird because Freeze doesn't have the burning time feature and can demobilize medium and heavy tanks effectively (which are used mainly in DMs). I combine it with Wasp for a nice DM combo.

[terminator2298 2]

I think the freeze time should be extended

[koffi1234 0]

I have plaid with freeze, most of any gun in the game actually. In my original account i pretty much freezed my way to bridgalier.I trust in you in for a bit freeze m3 is your main afterall... but what i was after was real info not statements like: "freezing doesnt work on inferno" because it most certainly does.... and if you are just saying freeze cant handle 40%.... neither can any other turret. ;)

 

Ty this is what i wanted to know... the freezed tank is faster in m3   :)  so the slowing works in similar fashion on all ranks except you and enemy are both faster...doesn't sound that bad. And you are saying that other guns are better off m3. Looking at the MUs freeze does still possess the highest normal dps around at m4 and a decent range and as you said energy. 

After these conclusions freeze still looks tempting to me and i would buy and upgrade it on sale, just because it's much more fun than rosting or healing :)

 

If you got anything else i should know before investing on this, let me know

The effect of freeze decreases throughout it upgrade from m1 - m3. The better the players tanks is the worse the effect of freeze will slow them down. Right now freeze suck but I still love. **** firebird and its damage and long period burning, and isida with its self heal with great damage  That's what I believe. You can check the stats of freeze against other turrets and the stats for freeze are worse than the others.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

They have made it a bit more powerful but it is still ****.

[Peyton2956 6]

i don't really like it it's like firebird but its stream just goes straight so it can only damage one tank at a time, and it doesn't damage tanks aftr the attacker stops shooting. yeah, it can slow tanls down, but if they have a fast hull, it won't be much of a big deal im not saying freeze is bad it's just im saying y have it when u can get firebird

[george_ace 57]

You all have forgotten the Freeze's primary strength. Yes, it doesn't have that nice burning time feature and is shorter ranged, but it has a much faster reload time than Firebird. Plus it's cheap in comparison.

[Heles 9,220]

I want the old freeze back, longer freezing time and effect turrets and hull movement speed :(

[FC_BayernMunchen 1,941]

I want the old freeze back, longer freezing time and effect turrets and hull movement speed :(

Yes, this is when it was so OP. Now we have the repair kit which can undo the freeze effect .-.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I've noticed an improvement with freeze M3 over the past few weeks, I haven't used my firebird for a while now. It's especially good on Polygon.

[Tp0d 3]

meh. 

with all those fire m2s around i feel that my freeze m2 is kinda useless...  :(

[W6N 39]

i dont know guys with which logic you judge the FREEZE...

after reading many comments i have decided to play a game with my FREEZE m2, to see how will it preform.

and that was the result without drugging at all + i was late 4 minutes

 

ps: that was just m2

[E.Leclerc 1,887]

i dont know guys with which logic you judge the FREEZE...

after reading many comments i have decided to play a game with my FREEZE m2, to see how will it preform.

and that was the result without drugging at all + i was late 4 minutes

 

ps: that was just m2

ok

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

how many firebirds were in your enemies team?

The ranks do not allow zeus paint, do they?

[Amateur 829]

how many firebirds were in your enemies team?

The ranks do not allow zeus paint, do they?

A marshal can have zeus paint from prometherus kit

[The_Guillotine 0]

wait a second, based on the tables containing the stats of freeze and firebird in this topic and the "Let's Discuss Firebird!" topic, it says freeze does like half the damage of firebird. Is that an error?

 

Also, I am considering buying siberian kit (freeze m2, hunter m1, tundra). Is it any good?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Forget the tables in the starting post.. they are completely outdated.

In the meanwhile Fire and Freeze have changed like 2..4 times.

Look them up here: link to wiki

 

~~ Sibirian Kit, Fire M1 -vs- Freez M2 damage:

 

 

Considering the situation at your rank and thinking a little in advance, Sibiran Kit is great.

Freeze M2 works a little better then fire M1: While dealing the same effective damage, the freeze effect will keep you protected from enemies backfire (as the M1s spinn too slow to effectively counteract you. M2 will become a challenge, and forget about M3s).

Also Freeze's lower energy consumption leaves you with 50% Energy left, while a firebird M1 is already empty and has to rely on Afterburn damage. See pic below for details - please read and think about the legend right of the pic for it's meaning.

 

 

 

 

 

Hunter M1 is a decent Hull.

Tundra is a paint that will serve you well right into the highest ranks.

 

You maybe want to get a Storm paint later on.. it's cheap and protects very well against firebirds.

With this combo and some skill, you can really rule midsized battlefields.

 

This all applies.. until M2 Fire unlocks. From this moment on, Fire has the upper hand. But in the meanwhile you will boost your crystals/hour and crstals/xp ratio, so Sibirian really pays off if you like shortrange combat.

 

ps: Hunter/Tundra or Hunter/Storm is also a great platform for a Rico and Rail.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[M5DrAT_KsA 0]

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[The_Guillotine 0]

Forget the tables in the starting post.. they are completely outdated.

In the meanwhile Fire and Freeze have changed like 2..4 times.

Look them up here: link to wiki

 

~~ Sibirian Kit, Fire M1 -vs- Freez M2 damage:

 

 

Considering the situation at your rank and thinking a little in advance, Sibiran Kit is great.

Freeze M2 works a little better then fire M1: While dealing the same effective damage, the freeze effect will keep you protected from enemies backfire (as the M1s spinn too slow to effectively counteract you. M2 will become a challenge, and forget about M3s).

Also Freeze's lower energy consumption leaves you with 50% Energy left, while a firebird M1 is already empty and has to rely on Afterburn damage. See pic below for details - please read and think about the legend right of the pic for it's meaning.

 

 

 

 

 

Hunter M1 is a decent Hull.

Tundra is a paint that will serve you well right into the highest ranks.

 

You maybe want to get a Storm paint later on.. it's cheap and protects very well against firebirds.

With this combo and some skill, you can really rule midsized battlefields.

 

This all applies.. until M2 Fire unlocks. From this moment on, Fire has the upper hand. But in the meanwhile you will boost your crystals/hour and crstals/xp ratio, so Sibirian really pays off if you like shortrange combat.

 

ps: Hunter/Tundra or Hunter/Storm is also a great platform for a Rico and Rail.

 

 

Wow thanks for going to the trouble of accumulating all this data, and thanks for the advice as well. I will also probably get the Siberian kit, unless Osaka is better... opinions?