Let's Discuss Viking!

[ghost-guns 1,486]

You'll eventually go M4 anyway lol

Not sure about that - 142,000 crystals takes a long time to earn.

[TheBlackChick 319]

Not sure about that - 142,000 crystals takes a long time to earn.

1 MU at every sale should do the trick...you'll probably end up paying about 100k which isnt much if u play a lot

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Bo of course sspeed isnt everything. But for some players they will ike the speed more than Hunter's advantages. Also IIRC Viking has the best medium acceleration whi ch for me is important. But for other players not so much.

 

As for the other medium hull all I'll say for it is it resists the smoky impact alteration pretty darn well.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Bo of course sspeed isnt everything. But for some players they will ike the speed more than Hunter's advantages. Also IIRC Viking has the best medium acceleration whi ch for me is important. But for other players not so much.

 

As for the other medium hull all I'll say for it is it resists the smoky impact alteration pretty darn well.

By the way, do you know why they made that ridiculous switch of stats of viking and hunter? I know that they are planning hulls abilities, but couldn't they have done it without changing those stats of those two hulls?

[ghost-guns 1,486]

By the way, do you know why they made that ridiculous switch of stats of viking and hunter? I know that they are planning hulls abilities, but couldn't they have done it without changing those stats of those two hulls?

I can only think of two reasons why they did that -

 

1. Everyone was using viking and gameplay had no variety

2. They wanted people to spend crystals

[Germanwarrior1 16]

I'm surprised so many people aren't happy with Viking's stats now, I use it with Ricochet and I find the extra speed makes it even more effective. Very good for attacking, moving around and taking cover. 

[N3tralRE 282]

I'm surprised so many people aren't happy with Viking's stats now, I use it with Ricochet and I find the extra speed makes it even more effective. Very good for attacking, moving around and taking cover. 

To be clear, Viking isn't obsolete; it's just that longtime M3 Viking owners feel sore about M3 Hunter suddenly being more viable than before.  Besides having the same amount of HP as Viking, M3 Hunter has certain advantages over M3 Viking: more power; more weight (and more stable); cheaper to buy; nice height.  

 

Compare that with M3 Viking's flat height and faster speed.  As you may notice stat-wise, Hunter has 3 clear advantages over Viking while the height advantages can be debated.  Then again, speed can matter more than mere stability, and coupled with supplies, Viking becomes one of the deadliest and most durable Speed demons to face.

[wolverine848 13,097]

To be clear, Viking isn't obsolete; it's just that longtime M3 Viking owners feel sore about M3 Hunter suddenly being more viable than before.  Besides having the same amount of HP as Viking, M3 Hunter has certain advantages over M3 Viking: more power; more weight (and more stable); cheaper to buy; nice height.  

 

Compare that with M3 Viking's flat height and faster speed.  As you may notice stat-wise, Hunter has 3 clear advantages over Viking while the height advantages can be debated.  Then again, speed can matter more than mere stability, and coupled with supplies, Viking becomes one of the deadliest and most durable Speed demons to face.

We bought Viking to use with certain turrets like smoky. Smoky needs to keep firing and hitting targets because 1) does small damage and 2) critical - more hits = more chances for critical.

 

Viking no longer provides that stability, making it less useful as a stable weapons platform.  If I want speed I will switch to my M3 hornet.

 

Devs wanted us to spend crystals on another medium hull to get back what we had.  No thanks. :angry:

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

We bought Viking to use with certain turrets like smoky. Smoky needs to keep firing and hitting targets because 1) does small damage and 2) critical - more hits = more chances for critical.

 

Viking no longer provides that stability, making it less useful as a stable weapons platform.  If I want speed I will switch to my M3 hornet.

 

Devs wanted us to spend crystals on another medium hull to get back what we had.  No thanks. :angry:

Not to mention that dictator and hunter can outperform Viking in DM

[TheBlackChick 319]

After all these rebalances, has anyone noticed an increase in the numbers of players who use Hunter/Dictator instead of Viking?

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Has anyone seen the latest episode of the vlog? Will be interesting to see which hull ability is given to viking...

 

I'm invested too many crystals now to change hull (MUs upgrading to 17/20). I could perhaps go back to hornet, or buy titan, but I would be right back at a base M3 tank. Heck maybe it doesn't matter. Supplies are so powerful, and these abilities will probably change things up completely.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I'm pulling my hair out with this tank... just one little plasma from twins is enough to knock viking completely off balance.

[robbie56 2,403]

I'm pulling my hair out with this tank... just one little plasma from twins is enough to knock viking completely off balance.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

After all these rebalances, has anyone noticed an increase in the numbers of players who use Hunter/Dictator instead of Viking?

Yes I have.

[robbie56 2,403]

Hunter was pretty much dead before, now it has made its return. Im glad with that cause I used to be a huge Hunter guy back in the day.

Edited July 20, 2017 by robbie56

[Fresh 2,390]

Hunter was pretty much dead before, now it has made its return. Im glad with that cause I used to be a huge Hunter guy back in the day.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Hunter was pretty much dead before, now it has made its return. Im glad with that cause I used to be a huge Hunter guy back in the day.

Well now hunter is better than Viking in almost every aspect except design.

[robbie56 2,403]

Well now hunter is better than Viking in almost every aspect except design.

Hunter looks  pretty funny, but it would've been better if it looked badass B)

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Which of these turrets should I save for to use with viking -

 

Twins

Isida

Hammer

 

?

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Which of these turrets should I save for to use with viking -

 

Twins

Isida

Hammer

 

?

Twins, Viking seems to be only good with twins now, all you have to do is charge at your enemies at boom, they die. Edited July 21, 2017 by DieselPlatinum

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

So back in October 2016, there was a rebalance update that occurred that basically switched the stats of viking and hunter. And even though there was a reason behind this, I don't see the need for such drastic changes.

 

Due to the fact that Viking is slightly longer and wider than hunter, doesn't mean it should be based on realism. For a Viking, the weight is most concerning since its easier to hit its corners than a hunters corners.

 

So my proposal is not to switch back the stats but instead to do the following changes:

 

--	Top Speed	Weight	Power
M0	7.3	1600	1050
M1	7.71	2050	1200
M2	8.12	2595	1465
M3	8.31	2850	1600
M4	8.65	3100	1800

 

I think this change might be necessary in order to prevent Viking from being considered a light hull.

[Hate 5,582]

 

Topic merged

 

Quite an interesting theory I would say. Why not try suggesting it as an idea in the I&S section? I would say it is worth a try. (: 

[wolverine848 13,097]

So back in October 2016, there was a rebalance update that occurred that basically switched the stats of viking and hunter. And even though there was a reason behind this,

 

 

I don't see the need for such drastic changes.

 

Due to the fact that Viking is slightly longer and wider than hunter, doesn't mean it should be based on realism. For a Viking, the weight is most concerning since its easier to hit its corners than a hunters corners.

 

So my proposal is not to switch back the stats but instead to do the following changes:

 

--	Top Speed	Weight	Power
M0	7.3	1600	1050
M1	7.71	2050	1200
M2	8.12	2595	1465
M3	8.31	2850	1600
M4	8.65	3100	1800

 

I think this change might be necessary in order to prevent Viking from being considered a light hull.

 

 

What was the "reason"?

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Topic merged

 

Quite an interesting theory I would say. Why not try suggesting it as an idea in the I&S section? I would say it is worth a try. (:

 

Or you can move it there for me :P

 

Anyway, I could give it try.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

What was the "reason"?

Reason for what? The stat switch last year?