Let's discuss Wasp!

[I.WalkAlone 548]

A year ago I would argue about M1 Hornet being better then M1 Wasp. But since MU's are here, Wasp gets better HP then Hornet. 10 steps (I think) and you got 112HP with Wasp for just about.... 3k. Good deal I would say

Same goes for hornet m2. If you apply the same logic, you can't say that wasp m2 is better than hornet m2.

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

wow,such a arguer xD

[pizzaslad 471]

^IKR

 

I highly doubt you could get as much as an improvement in M2 Hornet as you can get from M1 Wasp with MU's. 3K worth of MU's isn't going to improvement M2 Hornet by much. And it would be foolish to MU Hornet's HP so much at Colonel when it's M3 if 3 ranks away....

 

And I can still say Wasp is better then Hornet :)

[Jester_awesome 19]

I love that tippy tank!

[I.WalkAlone 548]

^IKR

 

I highly doubt you could get as much as an improvement in M2 Hornet as you can get from M1 Wasp with MU's. 3K worth of MU's isn't going to improvement M2 Hornet by much. And it would be foolish to MU Hornet's HP so much at Colonel when it's M3 if 3 ranks away....

 

And I can still say Wasp is better then Hornet :)

3k appears to be very little, but considering the fact that wasp m1 costs 14k, it is a huge percentage of the original price (around 21%). 21% of hornet m2's original price would be nearly 15k. That would add up to approximately 12 steps and 13.1 HP. Hornet's health would now be 151.6, 2 more HP than wasp m3's original health.

Edit-Oh, and one more thing. Even if you add the 15k spent on micro upgrades to hornet m2's cost, it will cost less than wasp m2.

Edited January 24, 2015 by I.WalkAlone

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

ok Einstein .-.

[I.WalkAlone 548]

I like to be called Einstein. :D :P

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

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[pizzaslad 471]

First of all, you are using relative reasoning while I am using absolute ;) So the 3K stays, and the Wasp has better MU's (for me. But you suggested using my logic so.....hehe)

Furthermore, as it's level, 13 HP isn't going to save you from anything. Like 1 or 2 more Twins shot? And we cannot be considering only HP, as that is far from being the strong suit of light hulls. M2 Wasp has more speed then M3 Hornet ;)

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

well,ok....

[Loackie 269]

How prone to flipping is wasp? I'm backing away from it b/c its weight stat is horrid.

[trombone_ftw 734]

How prone to flipping is wasp? I'm backing away from it b/c its weight stat is horrid.

You have got to be kidding me ._.

[Loackie 269]

You have got to be kidding me ._.

i've seen Vikings flip more than 360s you think i'm not nervous about using a light hull?

[trombone_ftw 734]

i've seen Vikings flip more than 360s you think i'm not nervous about using a light hull?

I use it just fine :mellow:

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

a viking flipping is quite rare to see

[I.WalkAlone 548]

First of all, you are using relative reasoning while I am using absolute ;) So the 3K stays, and the Wasp has better MU's (for me. But you suggested using my logic so.....hehe)

Furthermore, as it's level, 13 HP isn't going to save you from anything. Like 1 or 2 more Twins shot? And we cannot be considering only HP, as that is far from being the strong suit of light hulls. M2 Wasp has more speed then M3 Hornet ;)

Absolute reasoning is very inaccurate. Relative reasoning works better. Addmittedly, 13 HP more than it's original health isn't much, but even wasp m2's speed isn't that much greater than that of hornet.

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

nice point.... 

[pizzaslad 471]

You are telling me that a solid answer has a greater chance of being inaccurate then relative which compares to something? They both work well in their respects, but relative is often a comparison of two absolute figures...

 

I can say the same. M2 Wasp's speed isn't much greater then M3 Hornet's, but if you MU Wasp's HP, it HP isn't too much either.

Edited January 25, 2015 by pizzaslad

[denex12 77]

Wasp > Hornet, but the position of the turret can let you down sometimes, especially with Railgun. It can also help though xD

[I.WalkAlone 548]

You are telling me that a solid answer has a greater chance of being inaccurate then relative which compares to something? They both work well in their respects, but relative is often a comparison of two absolute figures...

 

I can say the same. M2 Wasp's speed isn't much greater then M3 Hornet's, but if you MU Wasp's HP, it HP isn't too much either.

Relative is more accurate in this case because there is a vast difference between the cost of m1's and m2's.

 

Also, even with 15k worth of micro upgrades hornet m2 would cost less than wasp m2 and get have more HP than wasp m3. Micro upgrading wasp m2 would make it more and more expensive than hornet m2, thus making your point redundant. I'm not saying that hornet is better than wasp. I'm just saying that they are equally good in their own respects. You cannot claim that wasp is better than hornet.

[trombone_ftw 734]

You cannot claim that wasp is better than hornet.

Watch me.

• Higher speed
• >avoids damage
• >more fun
• Higher turning speed
• >avoids damage
• >more fun
• little to no drifting
• >more precise
• >avoids damage
• >more intense gameplay
• less weight
• >more fun
• >more tricks
• >more skill
• >more looking like a pro
• smaller shape
• >avoiding damage
• >allows for more interesting gameplay

 

mk im done for now

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Watch me.

• Higher speed
• >avoids damage
• >more fun
• Higher turning speed
• >avoids damage
• >more fun
• little to no drifting
• >more precise
• >avoids damage
• >more intense gameplay
• less weight
• >more fun
• >more tricks
• >more skill
• >more looking like a pro
• smaller shape
• >avoiding damage
• >allows for more interesting gameplay

mk im done for now

Higher speed

>Harder to control

>Doesn't help against turrets like smoky and thunder.

Less drifting

>Less fun

Less weight

>More flipping

>Gets pushed by other tanks easily

Less health

>Can get one-shotted by railgun, one of the most popular turrets. Even if you put on a protective paint against it, you're susceptible to other turrets.

Shape

>Hornet looks a lot better.

[trombone_ftw 734]

Higher speed

>Harder to control please, it makes it more exciting

>Doesn't help against turrets like smoky and thunder. i dont really get your point here

Less drifting

>Less fun so running into every wall in your path whenever you have a nitro on is considered fun? Good to know.

Less weight

>More flipping Again, takes more skill to avoid it, making gameplay more interesting.

>Gets pushed by other tanks easily Lights hulls aren't made to push, they're made to escape. ._.

Less health

>Can get one-shotted by railgun, one of the most popular turrets. Even if you put on a protective paint against it, you're susceptible to other turrets. I already covered this so much in my last post.

Shape

>Hornet looks a lot better. Hornet looks like the ocean barfed on a fish. Wasp's shape is a lot more fun to play with.

[olixu 124]

Higher speed

>Harder to control

>Doesn't help against turrets like smoky and thunder.

Less drifting

>Less fun

Less weight

>More flipping

>Gets pushed by other tanks easily

Less health

>Can get one-shotted by railgun, one of the most popular turrets. Even if you put on a protective paint against it, you're susceptible to other turrets.

Shape

>Hornet looks a lot better.

Naw!

[I.WalkAlone 548]

 

 

Higher speed

>Harder to control please, it makes it more exciting Right... Sure it is...

>Doesn't help against turrets like smoky and thunder. i dont really get your point here Turret's like smoky and thunder hit their target instantaneously. Extra speed barely helps avoiding the shot.

Less drifting

>Less fun so running into every wall in your path whenever you have a nitro on is considered fun? Good to know. Not running into a wall takes skill, making gameplay more interesting.

Less weight

>More flipping Again, takes more skill to avoid it, making gameplay more interesting. Flipping on your back is a lot of fun and is very beneficial, isn't it?

>Gets pushed by other tanks easily Lights hulls aren't made to push, they're made to escape. ._. Yes, but if such a situation arises, wasp gets pushed very early.

Less health

>Can get one-shotted by railgun, one of the most popular turrets. Even if you put on a protective paint against it, you're susceptible to other turrets. I already covered this so much in my last post. Really? Which one?

Shape

>Hornet looks a lot better. Hornet looks like the ocean barfed on a fish. Wasp's shape is a lot more fun to play with. Wasp looks like a kid's toy. Hornet has more class.