Let's discuss Wasp!

[pizzaslad 471]

Lolol. I should of told you this before Fox, but IDC about price. As long as there's a 50% off, I'll buy what I wanted B)

 

For me at least, Wasp is better. As I own both at M2, I can say this (For M2's :P). Even with Hornet XT, I didn't notice much of a HP difference, only that I slid around like a snake and was slower :) Let us agree to disagree ^_^

 

EDIT: BUT, I'll give you this: 'They are both good in their respects :)'

Edited January 27, 2015 by pizzaslad

[Loackie 269]

(allcaps) omg was is now top tier again yayyyy

 

Loackie's New Hull Tier List

 

1. Hunter

2. Wasp/Dictator

3. Wasp/Dictator

4. Viking

5. Hornet (being generousish here)

6. Titan

7. Mammoth

Edited January 27, 2015 by Loackie

[denex12 77]

I got M1 Hornet, and it sucks. Waste of crystals. Total waste. Wasp is just sooooo much better, and it gets even better with MU's

 

Issue: Wasp M2 and Smoky M2 both unlock at Colonial :(

[Loackie 269]

I got M1 Hornet, and it sucks. Waste of crystals. Total waste. Wasp is just sooooo much better, and it gets even better with MU's

 

Issue: Wasp M2 and Smoky M2 both unlock at Colonial :(

I'd still get an alt combination. 1.75 has a hard time rivaling m3s

[denex12 77]

I'd still get an alt combination. 1.75 has a hard time rivaling m3s

Yeah, well, I'll just get M2 Hornet then, because it's cheap. Oh well. Still have plenty of time to save for M2 Wasp!

[trombone_ftw 734]

I got M1 Hornet

WHAT DID I TELL YOU

 

ayyye...

facepalm

[denex12 77]

WHAT DID I TELL YOU

 

ayyye...

facepalm

:P Well, I still have my trusty M1.5 Wasp and M1.5 Smoky :D

[Myrddins 3]

New to the game but I like the Wasp for its speed of movement and I have been having very good success pairing it up with the shaft turret..

 

Used to play "Red Orchestra 45" and Unreal Tournament years ago and loved the tank battles so Tanki is excellent in that respect

[kayitsiz 621]

(allcaps) omg was is now top tier again yayyyy

 

Loackie's New Hull Tier List

 

1. Hunter

2. Wasp/Dictator

3. Wasp/Dictator

4. Viking

5. Hornet (being generousish here)

6. Titan

7. Mammoth

1. Dictator

2. Mammoth

3. Viking 

4. Wasp

5. Hunter

6. Hornet

7.Titan  

 

in my opinion

[racer22_online 206]

The value of MUing an M1 Wasp protection as much as you can afford plus using Forester paint is that you can avoid being one shot-ed by a M2 rail gun most of the time.  Then while the rail gun reloads you chase it down and have a high chance of killing it.  Then you have just enough life left for a suicide attack.  Then Wasp is soon back in action after re-spawn due to it's speed = back killing with full HP.

This has a bad K/D ratio - but the points you gain makes up for it - especially if you get hold of the enemy flag frequently.  If you do TDM then the ability to move quickly and hide and ambush - can make for a much higher K/D ratio than you might expect.

I think Wasp with any turret can be made to work well because you have many opportunities to get in behind the enemy and shoot them before they can react.

I have massive fun with Wasp / Rico.  Can't wait to get an M2 Wasp.

By the way M2 Rico does feel under-powered against M2 Twins, M2 Thunder and M2 Smoky - but once the Rico is half way MU'd it starts to get even, especially if you speed up the reload time.

My son uses Hornet to great effect (Hornet survives many jumps and reversing drops better than Wasp) - and when paired with Freeze or Izzy it can be hard to stop.  It can take over 8 shots of a Rico to kill a Hornet with double armour.  That's long enough to do a complete flag run in Rio.  That's why I have to keep a few double damage in hand to solve that problem.

A Wasp M1 with MU to over 100 HP with double armour - can survive a mine - that's if you don't end up upside down - which is a 50:50!  But this can allow you to snatch a flag and deliver it to another team mate (you probably won't last long enough to get back home) - so good team play has a huge effect on the game.  You should watch 3 Hornet / Izzy's all relay working together - very dangerous.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

I got M1 Hornet, and it sucks. Waste of crystals. Total waste. Wasp is just sooooo much better, and it gets even better with MU's

 

Issue: Wasp M2 and Smoky M2 both unlock at Colonial :(

Yeah, well, I'll just get M2 Hornet then, because it's cheap. Oh well. Still have plenty of time to save for M2 Wasp!

M1 Hornet doesn 't suck...but compared to the Wasp M1 it 's not that good, and

Wasp M1 has the advantage of an early unlock.

(though with high recoil turrets Hornet M1 will do a better job)

 

The Hornet becomes a fine hull at M2 and that already at Second LT!

Which indeed gives you plenty of time to save for the Colonel 's M2 Wasp.

 

An "ideal" upgrade line of light hulls could be in my view:

 

Hornet M0

Wasp M1

Hornet M2

Wasp M2

Hornet M3

 

With the Hornet M3 in the garage you are all set.

 

Now I hear some Trom Tankers say: "but you forgot the Wasp M3!!!"

 

Nope, I didn 't... :P

[Pow12345678 12]

i flipped a mammoth m3 the other day with viking m2.. problem is that i did not flip even 1 wasp that day..

[pizzaslad 471]

Someone's looking for trouble around here :ph34r:

 

Oh well. Whatever works for you works :)

[trombone_ftw 734]

Hornet M0

Wasp M1

Hornet M2

Wasp M2

Hornet M3

 

With the Hornet M3 in the garage you are all set.

 

Now I hear some Trom Tankers say: "but you forgot the Wasp M3!!!"

 

Nope, I didn 't... :P

Yes, you did :P

Hornet's unlock ranks and prices are already easy enough to acquire, why would you buy Wasp at all if you didn't want the M3? The M2 Hornet is sometimes used as an alternative for Wasp users, given the 13 rank gap between M1 and M2. The unlock ranks for Hornet are much more balanced, so a Hornet user using Wasp as an alternative to get to a next modification makes little to no sense... Therefore, Wasp M3 would be a logical addition to your list :)

[Loackie 269]

1. Dictator

2. Mammoth

3. Viking 

4. Wasp

5. Hunter

6. Hornet

7.Titan  

 

in my opinion

Why is Mammoth so high and Titan so low? :S (just wondering)

[kayitsiz 621]

Why is Mammoth so high and Titan so low? :S (just wondering)

İf you are not faster, or your speed is not enough to keep distance for a short time, speed doesn't matter so much.

So if you want to get a heavy tank, why should i care speed so much?

 

Of course speed changes everythink, but if your speed is not enough, maybe you should get other higher stats.

Heal, weight...

 

Moreover, locking ranks are better.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at Dictator. Dictator is actually a heavy hull on the wiki. We generally say for that "medium". Slower than others but my favorite.

Dictator's speed is enough to keep distance for enough time.(Of course with lots of another advantages.

 

 

And at last, in my opinion, mammoth is one of the hull for pros. Players rarely use that effectively. Unfortunately, i still don't have enough skill and knowledge to use mammoth effectively, but i will probably learn that :)

Edited January 31, 2015 by kayitsiz

[denex12 77]

Yes, you did :P

Hornet's unlock ranks and prices are already easy enough to acquire, why would you buy Wasp at all if you didn't want the M3? The M2 Hornet is sometimes used as an alternative for Wasp users, given the 13 rank gap between M1 and M2. The unlock ranks for Hornet are much more balanced, so a Hornet user using Wasp as an alternative to get to a next modification makes little to no sense... Therefore, Wasp M3 would be a logical addition to your list :)

Well, at least I have the option to play XP and BP, plus Hornet is a lot cheaper than Wasp which gives me plenty of time to save up crystals for Wasp at M2 and M3 :D

[trombone_ftw 734]

Well, at least I have the option to play XP and BP, plus Hornet is a lot cheaper than Wasp which gives me plenty of time to save up crystals for Wasp at M2 and M3 :D

think u read it wrong

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Yes, you did :P

Hornet's unlock ranks and prices are already easy enough to acquire, why would you buy Wasp at all if you didn't want the M3? The M2 Hornet is sometimes used as an alternative for Wasp users, given the 13 rank gap between M1 and M2. The unlock ranks for Hornet are much more balanced, so a Hornet user using Wasp as an alternative to get to a next modification makes little to no sense... Therefore, Wasp M3 would be a logical addition to your list :)

 

First I like the praise you give for Hornet 's balanced unlock ranks,

in the contrary to Wasp 's 13 rank wide M1-M2 gap: thanks for that. B)

 

quote: "why would you buy Wasp at all if you didn't want the M3?"

 

Well, you are IMO partly right.

I really believe that if you are into speed and light hulls one should never ever

skip the Wasp M1. It 's a great small hull for an amazing price!

Combine the Wasp M1 with the Smoky M1 and for only a

very cheap 24.200 crystals you got a superb light-hull combo,

which can last for many ranks: with the proper skills that is...

Sprinkle it with some micro-upgrades and it becomes really tasty! :)

 

I added the Wasp M2 to the "ideal light-hull upgrade list" because it is

simply a better hull overal than the Hornet M2.

This is ofcourse only applicable in the ideal situation, in which a Tanker has

the crystals to buy the equipment.

In normal situations the Wasp M2 could better be skipped: that only if you are

not interested in the Wasp M3 at all ofcourse... :P

A Hornet M2 player would indeed only have to "survive" two ranks,

Colonel and Brigadier, to unlock the Hornet M3 at MJ General.

 

So yes, the Wasp M2 can be seen as a less logical addition to my list. ;)

Edited February 1, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[pizzaslad 471]

http://prntscr.com/5ztoo1 

 

http://prntscr.com/5zu0qi  Who says Wasp's can't get good D/Ls?

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

http://prntscr.com/5ztoo1

 

http://prntscr.com/5zu0qi  Who says Wasp's can't get good D/Ls?

They can! Hornet 's too...

[trombone_ftw 734]

First I like the praise you give for Hornet 's balanced unlock ranks,

in the contrary to Wasp 's 13 rank wide M1-M2 gap: thanks for that. B)

 

quote: "why would you buy Wasp at all if you didn't want the M3?"

 

Well, you are IMO partly right.

I really believe that if you are into speed and light hulls one should never ever

skip the Wasp M1. It 's a great small hull for an amazing price!

Combine the Wasp M1 with the Smoky M1 and for only a

very cheap 24.200 crystals you got a superb light-hull combo,

which can last for many ranks: with the proper skills that is...

Sprinkle it with some micro-upgrades and it becomes really tasty! :)

 

I added the Wasp M2 to the "ideal light-hull upgrade list" because it is

simply a better hull overal than the Hornet M2.

This is ofcourse only applicable in the ideal situation, in which a Tanker has

the crystals to buy the equipment.

In normal situations the Wasp M2 could better be skipped: that only if you are

not interested in the Wasp M3 at all ofcourse... :P

A Hornet M2 player would indeed only have to "survive" two ranks,

Colonel and Brigadier, to unlock the Hornet M3 at MJ General.

 

So yes, the Wasp M2 can be seen as a less logical addition to my list. ;)

Touche

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

hornet at m3 has better MU stats than wasp at m3

hornet m4 at health is 210 and wasp at m4 only 180 and i think wasp has more expensive MUs

speed of hornet m4 is 12 and speed of wasp m4 is 13(nice difference)

but still,a very common m4 is railgun >_>

so you need rail protection all the time for wasp,because over 180 damage for a rail m4 is quite often!(it sucks)

and hornet MUs are kinda cheaper(that is a big advantage if you not have that lots of crystals)

[pizzaslad 471]

#PROBattle

[Loackie 269]

Late night raging whupsies

Edited February 7, 2015 by Loackie